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Atrocities in Islamic countries...against those thought... - 5/31/2011 12:53:49 PM   
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After reading all the posts from the person who kept telling all about Obama's support of Islamo-Facists the other day, and how we shouldn't support the rebels involved in such placea as Lybia, I found this article.
Scary stuf, but we shouldn't support rebels in these countries based on them being Islamic?
The story of a 13 year old boy...
http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/features/2011/05/201153185927813389.html

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RE: Atrocities in Islamic countries...against those tho... - 5/31/2011 1:02:23 PM   
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Mark,

You have to consider the sources.  Some of those "sources" were bitching and moaning that Obama wasn't helping the rebels and when that changed they flipped to "why are we supporting these rebels".

You can't make them happy and they will scrounge around till they find something to bitch about.


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RE: Atrocities in Islamic countries...against those tho... - 5/31/2011 2:25:04 PM   
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Yeah, like the systematic rapes by Obama's buddies, the "Arab Spring". Must be spring fever.

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RE: Atrocities in Islamic countries...against those tho... - 5/31/2011 2:49:59 PM   
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Willbe, how about providing sources to back up your claims that Obama is supporting rapists?

Clearly conservatives are not above lieing to prove a point.

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RE: Atrocities in Islamic countries...against those tho... - 5/31/2011 2:52:28 PM   
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Willbe, how about providing sources to back up your claims that Obama is supporting rapists?

Clearly conservatives are not above lieing to prove a point.


Nor are liberals above intentionally misrepresenting what a conservative says. Try again if you want a response.

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RE: Atrocities in Islamic countries...against those tho... - 5/31/2011 2:57:16 PM   
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Willbe, how about providing sources to back up your claims that Obama is supporting rapists?

Clearly conservatives are not above lieing to prove a point.


Nor are liberals above intentionally misrepresenting what a conservative says. Try again if you want a response.

You didn't claim above that the Kenyan is supporting systematic rapes by "The Arab Spring" (which sounds like a very bad pron film in this context), then?
If not, what was the thrust of your earlier post, pray tell?

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RE: Atrocities in Islamic countries...against those tho... - 5/31/2011 4:02:59 PM   
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quote:

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After reading all the posts from the person who kept telling all about Obama's support of Islamo-Facists the other day, and how we shouldn't support the rebels involved in such placea as Lybia, I found this article.
Scary stuf, but we shouldn't support rebels in these countries based on them being Islamic?
The story of a 13 year old boy...
http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/features/2011/05/201153185927813389.html


I dont know if you know that story toke place only 60 miles from where i stand,
no comment untill its all gone.

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RE: Atrocities in Islamic countries...against those tho... - 5/31/2011 4:09:47 PM   
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quote:

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Willbe, how about providing sources to back up your claims that Obama is supporting rapists?

Clearly conservatives are not above lieing to prove a point.


Nor are liberals above intentionally misrepresenting what a conservative says. Try again if you want a response.



Since when is using DIRECT quotes misrepresenting? Hell I have provided links to prove the quotes were not taken out of context and still get accused of misrepresenting facts.

And yet you conservatives will lie through your teeth and fail to provide proof you aint lieing.

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RE: Atrocities in Islamic countries...against those tho... - 5/31/2011 4:13:36 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SilverMark

After reading all the posts from the person who kept telling all about Obama's support of Islamo-Facists the other day, and how we shouldn't support the rebels involved in such placea as Lybia, I found this article.
Scary stuf, but we shouldn't support rebels in these countries based on them being Islamic?
The story of a 13 year old boy...
http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/features/2011/05/201153185927813389.html


I dont know if you know that story toke place only 60 miles from where i stand,
no comment untill its all gone.


Ashjor,I thought you were out of the country?

Any regime that systematically tortures it's own citizens deserves to fall.


Torture is never OK and the thought of the last administration signing off on torture makes me sick.





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RE: Atrocities in Islamic countries...against those tho... - 5/31/2011 4:17:33 PM   
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but keeping American citizens awake for weeks on end, and forcing them to stand for naked public inspection is ok with you...


before their trial.....

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RE: Atrocities in Islamic countries...against those tho... - 5/31/2011 4:20:08 PM   
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quote:

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Willbe, how about providing sources to back up your claims that Obama is supporting rapists?

Clearly conservatives are not above lieing to prove a point.


Nor are liberals above intentionally misrepresenting what a conservative says. Try again if you want a response.



Since when is using DIRECT quotes misrepresenting? Hell I have provided links to prove the quotes were not taken out of context and still get accused of misrepresenting facts.



Willbe, how about providing sources to back up your claims that Obama is supporting rapists?

That is not what I said, no matter how much you would like it to be.

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RE: Atrocities in Islamic countries...against those tho... - 5/31/2011 4:22:59 PM   
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It is clear that Jilf doesn't understand that a "DIRECT quote", is using the persons ACTUALL words.

Changing them to something similar yet different isn't using a "DIRECT quote".

It is a nonsense rhetorical trick, used a whole lot by some folks...

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RE: Atrocities in Islamic countries...against those tho... - 5/31/2011 4:26:50 PM   
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It is clear that Jilf doesn't understand that a "DIRECT quote", is using the persons ACTUALL words.

Changing them to something similar yet different isn't using a "DIRECT quote".

It is a nonsense rhetorical trick, used a whole lot by some folks...



Well, give him 1/2 credit. He did quote it...then he rephrased it incorrectly. I won't try to guess whether its a problem with English or intentional since he repeated it.

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RE: Atrocities in Islamic countries...against those tho... - 5/31/2011 4:29:42 PM   
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but keeping American citizens awake for weeks on end, and forcing them to stand for naked public inspection is ok with you...


before their trial.....


Here's what I said about Manning's treatment - Post # 7.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_3643800/mpage_1/tm.htm



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RE: Atrocities in Islamic countries...against those tho... - 5/31/2011 4:45:57 PM   
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Ashjor,I thought you were out of the country?

Any regime that systematically tortures it's own citizens deserves to fall.


Torture is never OK and the thought of the last administration signing off on torture makes me sick.




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RE: Atrocities in Islamic countries...against those tho... - 5/31/2011 4:49:40 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

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but keeping American citizens awake for weeks on end, and forcing them to stand for naked public inspection is ok with you...


before their trial.....


Here's what I said about Manning's treatment - Post # 7.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_3643800/mpage_1/tm.htm





Yes, you said,

"I'm not crying too many tears over widdle Bwadley. He's a(n alleged) traitor."


Which is far different than your Faux Outrage over the previous administration.





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RE: Atrocities in Islamic countries...against those tho... - 5/31/2011 4:51:08 PM   
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Willbe, how about providing sources to back up your claims that Obama is supporting rapists?

That is not what I said, no matter how much you would like it to be.


So why not answer Moon`s direct question ? You were certainly infering President Obama supported rapists, by calling them his buddies. You wouldnt know an honest claim if it bit you on the arse.

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RE: Atrocities in Islamic countries...against those tho... - 5/31/2011 4:56:51 PM   
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Why are atrocities a justification for war now

Consider that in Saddam Husseins Iraq:


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 I heard—I mean the worst story that I was related via third party was of the fact that they would take young female children, sometimes pre-teenage years, and take them and systematically rape them until they became pregnant and execute the baby in front of the female and threw the remains of the baby into a cell where there were prisoners that were starving and the prisoners would eat the remains and then they would either execute the young lady at that time or send her home with a psychological damage that had occurred from that series of events.



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For example, many human rights groups estimate that nearly 300-thousand Iraqis disappeared since the time Saddam took power in 1979. Thousands of Iraqi women watched in horror as their families were brutally slaughtered. Many of the men were jailed or dragged from their homes in the middle of the night—never to return; their fates unknown. While the wives of the missing Iraqi men struggled to put food on the table, Saddam further complicated a woman's ability to provide for her fatherless family. He erected numerous barriers that made it nearly impossible for a woman to work outside the home and he forbade women to remarry. Saddam systematically destroyed family units, struck paralyzing fear in every one of his people and ultimately created living conditions so deplorable that Iraqis could never gain the strength or the courage to rise up against the regime.

    As many women struggled to earn a living, Saddam decreed prostitution a crime punishable by death in the 1990's and subsequently beheaded hundreds of alleged prostitutes. Such allegations, frequently baseless and often completely untrue went uninvestigated. The beheadings, reported to have been carried out by Saddam's eldest son Uday and units of the ''Fidayi [FED–AY–EEN] Saddam''—Saddam's personal militia—took place in front of the victim's neighbors and family, including her children. Left behind with the intention of further dishonoring the family, Saddam required that the woman's head be displayed publicly outside the victim's home for several days.


Etc etc etc

http://commdocs.house.gov/committees/intlrel/hfa91184.000/hfa91184_0f.htm


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RE: Atrocities in Islamic countries...against those tho... - 5/31/2011 5:03:11 PM   
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Why are atrocities a justification for war now

Consider that in Saddam Husseins Iraq:



The link is about Syria, which war are you on about, or is this just another anti Obama tirade ?

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RE: Atrocities in Islamic countries...against those tho... - 5/31/2011 5:10:35 PM   
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No PS, it is about atrocities in Islamic countries.


I do see why you would rather not explore the issue Sanity is raising.


Why is the killing of over 700 Civilians and the Maiming of another 4000 worthwhile?

Over the objections of the Arab Leauge, and the OAS.

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