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RE: The Evil of Man - 6/20/2011 9:21:03 PM   
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Ohhh....defensive are we........


Why so put upon?




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RE: The Evil of Man - 6/20/2011 9:24:27 PM   
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Who's being 'defensive' here?

I just laid it out as it is.

You are groping.



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RE: The Evil of Man - 6/20/2011 9:29:39 PM   
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Not groping.

Just explaining.

Why don`t woman commit rape or violent sexual assaults as often as men do?

That`s about as "r/t" as it gets.

Professor?

To the board,I`m not anti-male or thinking woman don`t commit crimes or don`t do fucked up stuff.

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RE: The Evil of Man - 6/20/2011 9:33:44 PM   
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The US has the highest per capita prison population in the world.

Dictatorships and male dominated countries with no women having any say-so in treatment of crime have, in several instances, much lower prison populations. Even if we subtract sexual assault crimes, that still holds true.

What say you?





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RE: The Evil of Man - 6/20/2011 9:40:49 PM   
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"Dictatorships and male dominated countries with no women having any say-so in treatment of crime have, in several instances, much lower prison populations"

What say me?

Me say that your long winded winding theory about treatment,woman`s say so in it,dictatorships or crime has nothing to do with the nature of men or the nature of women.

I`m just asking some questions and others are getting un-comfortable.

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RE: The Evil of Man - 6/20/2011 9:58:21 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Edwynn



The US has the highest per capita prison population in the world.

Dictatorships and male dominated countries with no women having any say-so in treatment of crime have, in several instances, much lower prison populations. Even if we subtract sexual assault crimes, that still holds true.

What say you?






I'd say beheading is a lot cheaper.

Seriously, a huge portion of our prison population are people convicted of drug offenses. Everybody thought it was a great idea to get tough on drug crime and now our prisons are a growth industry.

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RE: The Evil of Man - 6/20/2011 10:16:34 PM   
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I`m speaking about violent criminals.Men seem to have that category well in hand.

Drug use at the very least needs to be de-criminalized.



I also agree with the OP about human nature in general.


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RE: The Evil of Man - 6/20/2011 10:22:17 PM   
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quote:

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"Dictatorships and male dominated countries with no women having any say-so in treatment of crime have, in several instances, much lower prison populations"

What say me?

Me say that your long winded winding theory about treatment,woman`s say so in it,dictatorships or crime has nothing to do with the nature of men or the nature of women.

I`m just asking some questions and others are getting un-comfortable.



You are just being incoherent. Even more so than when you started out.

I'm not the least bit uncomfortable, unless straightforward answers and examples as given before in attempt to straighten out your incoherency that you imagine as 'questions' would be taken as such by the same 'world view.'

What a world, and welcome me not to it.




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RE: The Evil of Man - 6/20/2011 10:25:22 PM   
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You`re the one responding buddy.......whatever.

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RE: The Evil of Man - 6/21/2011 7:08:00 AM   
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i used to be very trusting. The one thing i took from my early childhood Catholic education was the golden rule--do unto others. Then one day when i was in my late 30s my mother pointed out to me that i always see the good in people, always trust that they will do the right thing and i had to look at myself deeply for the first time. That trusting nature and the disappoints it brought me were major sources of being diagnosed with bipolar disorder. Today, i'm not nearly as trusting as i used to be when it comes to my heart, i'm off all medication, but i still like to think that the majority of people are really good at heart.

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RE: The Evil of Man - 6/21/2011 7:15:44 AM   
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I also tend to take people at face value, they to me are what they are at the time, this results in either I get duped, or I make friends and unusual alliances and understand  people where others don't. Gullible I have been called, but I am finding positivity to those whom I come to meet in person is far better than cynical suspicion, it pleases my feelings no matter if it comes out badly, because I tried in a positive manner to obtain communication. But, as once someone pisses me off badly, they can make an uncoperative enemy, but I am aware all of us have problems, and if the psychologists could have their way, everyone of us will be diagnosed with some form of personality disorder, myself I have already been labelled such.


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RE: The Evil of Man - 6/21/2011 7:16:29 AM   
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When we finally understand that we are our own worst enemy, then we can start making moves to becoming anything other than the savages we are. We have to take a critical view of our own selves, not the selves of others, always the others you understand and when we describe others, we ignore the fact that we are the others, but we pass blame all the time.

So in what ways are you changing yourself?

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RE: The Evil of Man - 6/21/2011 7:24:18 AM   
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Introspection and that generally after reading and attempting to digest the work attributed to the name I have in the first line of my signature, but I know I learn slowly, but then not one of us is perfect, that is why we need to learn to better ourselves for our own moral good and how we respond to others.

I can strive for perfection, but I expect by no means I will achieve it, but in that striving though failing, I will have learned something that makes me better as a person to myself and to others and anything that takes me away from my original stance, is learning, hopefully of a more positive nature, but I am aware negative learning can also be had, in which case, it makes me strive all the more.


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