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RE: A not-stupid war. - 6/10/2011 7:46:54 PM   
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What are the u.s. vital national interests in iran,afghanistanand lybia?



Well, for Iran, that would be maintaining the nuclear balance of power, for Afghanistan, not jack shit, and, where the fuck is "Lybia," Thom?






As usual, when you lack the intellectual power to respond ,you point out spelling errors.

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RE: A not-stupid war. - 6/10/2011 7:51:03 PM   
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We finally got bin Laden that's good but Arab spring is Obama helping people who want to kill us take over all parts of Mideast.  That includes replacing people just as bad, those who hate but fear us like Qadaffi and those who helped us like Mubaric  all replaced by islamic radicals united to destroy us  that can't be good.




Why do you hate the democratic process?
Why do you support dictators?
Why do you support presidents who support dictators?

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RE: A not-stupid war. - 6/10/2011 7:54:05 PM   
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Well, Jimmy Carter is no longer the worst president in U.S. history. He can hammer those nails and think.. yup, ole Dear Leader sucks worse!


Would you please define what you feel makes a bad president.
Does lying to the american public make a bad president?
Does comitting murder make a bad president?
Does stealing make a bad president?
Does starting wars of aggression make a bad president?
or:
Does being a bad president require only that the president not be a republican?

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RE: A not-stupid war. - 6/10/2011 11:03:35 PM   
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As usual, when you lack the intellectual power to respond ,you point out spelling errors.




Now that's not accurate, Thom. Perhaps you're not aware of my comments regarding Libya on other recent threads, but I most certainly responded to your inquiry on the countries you do know how to spell.

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RE: A not-stupid war. - 6/13/2011 10:42:53 AM   
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As usual, when you lack the intellectual power to respond ,you point out spelling errors.




Now that's not accurate, Thom. Perhaps you're not aware of my comments regarding Libya on other recent threads, but I most certainly responded to your inquiry on the countries you do know how to spell.



So the short answer is you don't know, so you choose to point out spelling errors...typical dick.

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RE: A not-stupid war. - 6/13/2011 6:10:19 PM   
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So the short answer is you don't know, so you choose to point out spelling errors...typical dick.



And what is it that dicks do to assholes, Thom?

Try looking around a bit. I've spoken to Libya on a number of occasions recently. You are worth repeating myself over because...?

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RE: A not-stupid war. - 6/13/2011 8:00:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		You hope to troll on Libya but can`t get very far....

But somehow that`s our fault.....not your`s...

Sometimes, assholes shit allll over dicks,dick.

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RE: A not-stupid war. - 6/13/2011 10:39:03 PM   
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You hope to troll on Libya but can`t get very far....

But somehow that`s our fault.....not your`s...


Not your fault? Really? How do you figure it's anybody elses fault that the loudmouth alleged "peaceniks" turned out to be nothing but Obamabots?



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RE: A not-stupid war. - 6/14/2011 6:48:59 AM   
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You hope to troll on Libya but can`t get very far....

But somehow that`s our fault.....not your`s...


Not your fault? Really? How do you figure it's anybody elses fault that the loudmouth alleged "peaceniks" turned out to be nothing but Obamabots?




Where did that happen?  It hasn't made the news, there is no credible citation, there is no reality to it.

I think what is confusing the rabid right is that their simplistic view of how it ought to be is incorrect and they proceed from incorrect assumptions.

Here, let me demonstrate:

We were elected with the mandate to repeal healthcare.
Whas happun?

We are going to create jobs.
Whas happun?

We are going to reduce the deficit (while they argue about the historical record debt and increase the debt ceiling under their very short watch).
Whas happun?


So, perhaps, like the cloth-eared bints they are, they have the premise wrong, and are frustrated by real events. 

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RE: A not-stupid war. - 6/14/2011 7:03:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		Perhaps it isn't making the news because the media are too busy digging through Palin's emails?"

C'mon, Ron. Tell me how non-deniably trying to kill a foreign head of state is just a spiffy little perk of the Presidency, with no need for Congress to be sticking their annoying noses into the matter.



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RE: A not-stupid war. - 6/14/2011 7:18:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		I dunno we have a history of it, Congress wasnt interested when St. Wrinklemeat tried to off the same prick, or Bush offed Saddam or St. Wrinklemeat fought the Cubans in Grenada........

I could go back some more thru our history but it would be more of the same.



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RE: A not-stupid war. - 6/14/2011 7:38:37 AM   
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Yes, Rich, it's reason for concern, and always have been.

But Ron has you dead to rights--your fauxtrage is selective.

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RE: A not-stupid war. - 6/14/2011 10:02:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		nope, none of those are comparable.

First, Bush didn't off Saddam. A trial held by the elected Gov of Iraq did. Mnot is simply lying about that.

And the other 2 were not violations of the war powers act.

we bombed a barracks (ONCE IN 1986), in response to a specific act (against us). How does that compare to what is happeneing today?






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RE: A not-stupid war. - 6/14/2011 10:16:20 AM   
Owner59


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Status: offline 		Yeah,let`s not talk/think about the 4000 GIs who`re dead for this stupid Iraq fuck-up.

That`s what President Obama meant by stupid.

But stupid people aren`t going to appreciate that.So don`t worry.




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RE: A not-stupid war. - 6/14/2011 10:19:45 AM   
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And too much of a coward to answer a queestion to boot.....

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RE: A not-stupid war. - 6/14/2011 10:20:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am not lying you are. We set up and order the election of the puppet government, but you are too ignorant of world affairs to know that (no surprise) St. Wrinkelmeats bombing of Libya was not based on any conclusion of law,  it was along the lines of Ws WMD.

http://bigpeace.com/jreitzell/2011/03/18/remember-reagans-bombing-of-libya-in-1986-it-shut-gaddafi-up-for-13-years/

So, some naif telling me that 'Nor is them = to them.' should remember that small boats should stay close to shore.    

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RE: A not-stupid war. - 6/14/2011 10:24:15 AM   
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Our president called your Iraq war fuck-up, stupid.And it was.Deadly to thousands of Americans and to tens of thousands of Iraqi civies.

President Obama also said that Afghanistan, wasn`t a stupid war.

That`s the thread and that`s the subject.

Ass.

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RE: A not-stupid war. - 6/14/2011 12:55:57 PM   
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You hope to troll on Libya but can`t get very far....

But somehow that`s our fault.....not your`s...


Not your fault? Really? How do you figure it's anybody elses fault that the loudmouth alleged "peaceniks" turned out to be nothing but Obamabots?




Still a big difference between Libya and Iraq Rich. you know I have agreed with you that it "may" be a slippery slope but lets not jump the gun huh.

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RE: A not-stupid war. - 6/14/2011 2:18:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		One of the definitions of a stupid war,..... is sending young men off to die,.... for nothing.

Hard to get stupid people to get that.

Rich and the neo-cons were quite content to send our GIs off to die like it was a video game.

Stupid.



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RE: A not-stupid war. - 6/14/2011 4:23:58 PM   
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As a candidate, Obama said something like "I'm not against all wars.  I'm against stupid wars."  He was clearly referring to Iraq and/or Afghanistan.

He has recently taken out bin Laden and Kashmiri.  Surgically.  With no loss of US life.

The US effect has been weird.  Dems are turning from pacifists to chest thumpers.  Republicans are urging caution in waging war, especially in Libya.  Obama could run as the President that is taking down Al Qaeda.

As a Dem/Republican, how do you feel about a Dem President successfully waging war?  Kinda breaks the stereotypes.  Personally, I'm more then ready to move into a world that involves less invasion, occupation, and loss of US life.

I am for a world that involves less lives lost regardless of their nationality



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