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JstAnotherSub -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/7/2011 4:06:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania


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ORIGINAL: gungadin09

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ORIGINAL: gungadin09
Okay, it made me laugh, but i would be tempted to avoid the Alamo Drafthouse simply because it's classless to publicly make fun of your patrons, no matter how silly they are. This is funny as hell, but i don't think they should have run the ad.


Okay, at first i thought it was an ad they had run on t.v. or something, like, see this stupid bitch, we kicked her out, aren't we cool? But, no. The theater's showing it inhouse and before R- rated movies only, as a way to emphasize their texting policy (which the girl apparently thought was NOT emphasized enough). So, go for it, Alamo Drafthouse.

pam



I find it quite ironic that those who think the initial message was tacky in the first place are thinking it is okay to use it as any form of advertisement (PSA or otherwise). They are still trying to use ridicule to make a point, and personally I wouldn't want to go to such a theater.

I wonder if this gal might have legal recourse if she knew they were using her voice on their recording this way....

I wonder, would you want to call in a complaint to this chain seeing how they have treated others who have done so?



I would call in a complaint to them in a heartbeat.  I would do it respectfully and I would bet I would be responded to respectfully.

I do not think you can judge how they treat "others" by their response to this one hothead with a filthy mouth.




juliaoceania -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/7/2011 4:08:26 PM)

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I honestly can not recall ever hearing cursing from peers til junior high school.....I still believe that any child who uses curse words at the age of 6 is only parroting what they ehar at home.  I have seen too many examples that prove this to be true in my 20 years working in elementary schools


I read the word "fuck" off a public school restroom when I was seven. I went home and repeated it there... it did not go over very big, to say the least. I had never heard that word at home. So your thesis that kids hear it at home first is bullshit from my own life experience...




JstAnotherSub -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/7/2011 4:13:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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I honestly can not recall ever hearing cursing from peers til junior high school.....I still believe that any child who uses curse words at the age of 6 is only parroting what they ehar at home.  I have seen too many examples that prove this to be true in my 20 years working in elementary schools


I read the word "fuck" off a public school restroom when I was seven. I went home and repeated it there... it did not go over very big, to say the least. I had never heard that word at home. So your thesis that kids hear it at home first is bullshit from my own life experience...


It may be bullshit to you, but I see it all the time.  We all can only judge based on what we see, so I am good with you disagreeing with me.




juliaoceania -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/7/2011 4:13:36 PM)

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I would call in a complaint to them in a heartbeat.  I would do it respectfully and I would bet I would be responded to respectfully.

I do not think you can judge how they treat "others" by their response to this one hothead with a filthy mouth.


I would call just to say... "You do not have my permission to use my complaint as an advertisement for your establishment you tacky mutha fuckas.... but I just roll like that.

Mind you, I rarely curse when it isn't appropriate, unless I want to make a statement and be inappropriate. Sometimes it pays to be inappropriate, especially when you are treated inappropriately.

I also find it ironic that there are so many people on here that believe it is a sign of stupidity to talk this way, yet think it is okay to ridicule stupid people. In my experience stupid people cannot help the way that they speak. So, if as those on this thread assert, this gal is "stupid", you are basically saying it is okay to humiliate stupid people

Anyway ya slice it, responding to tacky by being tacky is just more tackiness




juliaoceania -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/7/2011 4:15:22 PM)

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It may be bullshit to you, but I see it all the time.  We all can only judge based on what we see, so I am good with you disagreeing with me.


You say you have been working in public schools for 20 years, and you are saying that in all of that time no worldly child ever corrupted other children? I do not buy that for one second




angelikaJ -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/7/2011 4:20:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: gungadin09

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ORIGINAL: gungadin09
The ad made me laugh.


Okay, it made me laugh, but i would be tempted to avoid the Alamo Drafthouse simply because it's classless to publicly make fun of your patrons, no matter how silly they are. This is funny as hell, but i don't think they should have run the ad.

pam


I have seen your following post, however, it was the young woman who made an arse of herself.

It isn't as if the theatre posted a blog about a texting patron who got her self tossed out.
The woman broke the rules, and there were consequences.
She then chose to make the call and say what she did.

As for the people who think it was unfair for her to get tossed without her ticket refunded, every other entertainment venue (theatre, concert hall, rock club, cabaret) that I have been to has that as a policy: that if you are asked to leave there will be no refunds.




JstAnotherSub -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/7/2011 4:21:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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It may be bullshit to you, but I see it all the time.  We all can only judge based on what we see, so I am good with you disagreeing with me.


You say you have been working in public schools for 20 years, and you are saying that in all of that time no worldly child ever corrupted other children? I do not buy that for one second


I did not say that.  I said that, if I hear a 6 year old cursing a lot, odds are that they heard it at home.

I will go as far to say that, if a worldly child did corrupt a child who had parents who did not tolerate such language, the parents would put a stop to the cursing quickly.

In their younger years, MOST kids reflect their parents values.  That is MY experience.




juliaoceania -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/7/2011 4:29:00 PM)

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It isn't as if the theatre posted a blog about a texting patron who got her self tossed out.
The woman broke the rules, and there were consequences.
She then chose to make the call and say what she did.



I thought her call showed an ignorant person without the ability to articulate her thoughts clearly and succinctly. I thought she most likely should not be granted a refund for her behavior (although it would be just easier to give it to her).

I have worked in customer service for most of my employed life. I have handled rude customers, assholes, people trying to get refunds that were not due one, people who had a hard day and think it is a good idea to take it out on me, but that is what you get when you work with the public. Sometimes you have to tell the customer "no", sometimes you have to take it when they tell you how unhappy they are with that decision (especially if they feel wronged), but I have never in my life worked for an organization that would air customer complaints in such a fashion. I wouldn't even work for such an establishment that thought so little of their customers that they would do so.


The more I think about this, the more it strikes me that this theater thinks nothing of humiliating their customers... in fact they think it is cute. Whether this young lady had a valid complaint or not isn't the issue... the issue is they would take her complaint and use it in such a fucked up way.







Edwynn -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/7/2011 4:58:33 PM)




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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ

Likely had she not been texting in the first place, she would have seen the warning on the screen.




Thank you for the most funny and simultaneously the most germane comment in the whole thread.








gungadin09 -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/7/2011 4:59:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
I find it quite ironic that those who think the initial message was tacky in the first place are thinking it is okay to use it as any form of advertisement (PSA or otherwise). They are still trying to use ridicule to make a point, and personally I wouldn't want to go to such a theater.

i think it would be tacky to use ridicule to sell tickets by selling people on the idea of how hip they are. i see nothing wrong with using ridicule (and i think it was done tongue in cheek, and not in the spirit of meanness, or trying to up the ante) to make a point about their policy, which was NOT being made clear enough by the theater's earlier (and probably more passive) efforts to hit that point home. Say what you like about the ad, i bet it got people's attention in a way the other ads probably did not. And if it pisses some people off by using ridicule to make a point, hopefully it AVOIDS pissing more people off by making them aware of a policy that they would have been kicked out for if they hadn't known.

I wonder if this gal might have legal recourse if she knew they were using her voice on their recording this way....

i have no idea, but i suspect they had their lawyers check on it first.

I wonder, would you want to call in a complaint to this chain seeing how they have treated others who have done so?

Her story differs dramatically from theirs. If theirs is true, then i don't think she was treated badly. If hers is true, then they were completely within their rights, but may not have handled the situation as well as they could have. i would have a different opinion about the whole thing if i thought this was their way of selling "cool". But i think it's their way of emphasizing their policy by using humor instead of lecturing (which seems to have been ineffective.) i do NOT think their motivation was retaliation against the complainer, and i tend to believe their version of the story more than hers, especially since her version contradicts itself.

i think she deserved a warning before being thrown out of the theater. She may, or may not, have received one. If she didn't, then ridiculing her to make a point might be over the top. But if i were in her shoes, i would NOT have left that kind of message, and then expected my complaint to be taken as seriously as one that had been better thought out.



pam




gungadin09 -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/7/2011 5:08:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
I also find it ironic that there are so many people on here that believe it is a sign of stupidity to talk this way, yet think it is okay to ridicule stupid people. In my experience stupid people cannot help the way that they speak. So, if as those on this thread assert, this gal is "stupid", you are basically saying it is okay to humiliate stupid people

Anyway ya slice it, responding to tacky by being tacky is just more tackiness


For what it's worth, i do NOT think it's a sign of stupidity to talk this way. My opinion of the situation would be different if i thought she was telling the truth. For me, her statement seems contradictory, and THAT is the most condemning factor, not her choice of words.

pam




gungadin09 -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/7/2011 5:46:24 PM)

To anyone:

Does your opinion of whether the theater was right to run the ad depend on whether you think the girl was telling the truth?

pam




Arpig -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/7/2011 5:46:24 PM)

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I still believe that any child who uses curse words at the age of 6 is only parroting what they ehar at home.
And you'd be wrong. My parents didn't swear at all. My father was a career diplomat...he just didn't use dirty words unless it was in a joke. And my mother? I've heard her say "fuck" 2 or 3 times in 52 years. But at age 6 I was cussing in English and Hindi (no sorry, I don't remember any of it), in fact when we returned to Canada I took great delight in swearing at my teachers in Hindi. When I was 8 I was cussing in English, French, and Khemer.

I remember in grade 5 in Quebec City, we had an English class, and in the reader the word "tabernacle" appeared in the story. When the teacher reached that part and had to read that word out, she blushed seven shades of red and the whole class burst into gales of laughter.

Kids don't learn to swear at home, they learn at the park and playground, where they learn most of the important life skills.

I am amazed at the self delusion of some of the adults on here...do you really honestly think your little darlings talk the way they do in front of you when they are out with their friends? I have this bridge I don't need anymore, I can let it go pretty cheap.....

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Tantriqu -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/7/2011 6:05:05 PM)

She really WAS a 'cuss'-tomer. [sm=biggrin.gif] thee AY ter.
The 'woman' was obviously lying or drunk as well as stupid when she said she was 'just using her phone as a light' then confessed she was texting.

I hate seeing the blue screens light up around me when I'm trying to enjoy a movie: it IS distracting.
Hope this is a new theaTRE trend!




DesFIP -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/7/2011 6:15:53 PM)

The ad shows as little class as the voicemail. Two wrongs don't make a right.

I've been known to use my phone in dimly lit places because I have visual problems. And in what is sufficient light to a 20 year old, I'm effectively blind.

Years ago we used to go to a charming place on Key Biscaine that was so dimly lit it was common for a waiter to come around with a flashlight so you could read the menu. I was young then and still didn't enjoy straining my eyes.




JstAnotherSub -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/7/2011 6:22:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

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I still believe that any child who uses curse words at the age of 6 is only parroting what they ehar at home.
And you'd be wrong. My parents didn't swear at all. My father was a career diplomat...he just didn't use dirty words unless it was in a joke. And my mother? I've heard her say "fuck" 2 or 3 times in 52 years. But at age 6 I was cussing in English and Hindi (no sorry, I don't remember any of it), in fact when we returned to Canada I took great delight in swearing at my teachers in Hindi. When I was 8 I was cussing in English, French, and Khemer.

I remember in grade 5 in Quebec City, we had an English class, and in the reader the word "tabernacle" appeared in the story. When the teacher reached that part and had to read that word out, she blushed seven shades of red and the whole class burst into gales of laughter.

Kids don't learn to swear at home, they learn at the park and playground, where they learn most of the important life skills.

I am amazed at the self delusion of some of the adults on here...do you really honestly think your little darlings talk the way they do in front of you when they are out with their friends? I have this bridge I don't need anymore, I can let it go pretty cheap.....

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And where do the kids that teach the bad words at that age learn them?  Obscenities just come to them in the middle of the night.

I can see that you have had different experiences that I have.  That does not make me wrong about what I see day in and day out, year in and year out.  It just means we see different worlds.

I actually just hung up from a friend of mine and we enjoyed remembering the names of several of the kids that came to school using the bad words.  We also remember how their parents acted when called in to have the issue addressed.

Apple....tree.....fall not far.

But, I still say yay for the theater!




juliaoceania -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/7/2011 6:34:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: gungadin09

To anyone:

Does your opinion of whether the theater was right to run the ad depend on whether you think the girl was telling the truth?

pam


No....

When I heard the phone call I thought it was tacky to post it, and then when I realized they made a PSA about it, I thought it was even more tacky. I do not think it is funny.




juliaoceania -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/7/2011 6:42:07 PM)

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I actually just hung up from a friend of mine and we enjoyed remembering the names of several of the kids that came to school using the bad words.  We also remember how their parents acted when called in to have the issue addressed.


My son hated when I cursed when he was a little boy, he simply HATED cursing. he still doesn't talk that way, and I am very foul mouthed. I was never told my little darling had bad language, and the funny thing about it is I would not have been terribly upset or surprised had my son cursed. I think kids curse because it annoys adults. And since my son wasn't going to annoy me with mere words, he never got a kick out of saying them....

My son was one of the kids that parents invited over and encouraged their children to be around. If language is the criteria you judge parents by, you must be judging constantly.




Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/7/2011 6:46:43 PM)

If a place has a rule no texting, then that's the rule, I have no sympathy for her if she was texting an got kicked out. Cell phone screenes in the dark are very bright and disturb the movie. And who goes to a movie to text, you should be watching the movie.


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ORIGINAL: HeatherMcLeather

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I don't agree with most of the posters, it seems a bit over the top of the theatre to throw her out for using her phone as a light, and even if she were texting, if it was on silent then I don't see any reason to throw her out.




Arpig -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/7/2011 7:07:06 PM)

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And where do the kids that teach the bad words at that age learn them?  Obscenities just come to them in the middle of the night.
[8|][8|] No, they learn the bad words from older kids. Sheesh!

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It just means we see different worlds.
JAS babe, there is only one world. And your interpretation of the phenomenon is disproved by my personal experience. Now I suppose it could be that my siblings and I are an exception, it's possible, but highly unlikely, that the 5 of us are the only kids who ever learned to swear quite skillfully, yet didn't do so at home from listening to their parents. But, even if that is the case, you said ANY child etc., etc. And clearly you were mistaken. The fact that I learned to swear in languages my parents don't speak is proof enough that your premise is false.

Now if you had of said "Any child of 6 that swears openly and continuously is only parroting....". Well, there, I'd be inclined to agree with you. Along with learning how to swear from other kids, I learned that there are times and places where its inappropriate to do so...that I learned from my parents.




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