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Edwynn -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/7/2011 7:17:37 PM)
Thanks for getting the point, topping. Any theater with such a rule has me as a customer. Forget the Uni library for that. When at the Uni library or at the train station, I have to look ahead to prevent being bumped into by texters. And when I gave a loud cell phone talker in the library a mild 'look' as I was writing a project, she gave me a 'fuck you!' look right back and kept on cussing loudly to whomever she was talking about her boyfriend. (and yes, cell phone talking is allowed in this library, beleive it or not) And for those who try to confine the discussion to merely use of curse words, the point is clearly missed here. It is a behavioral situation, and even the need for such measure as was taken in this instance speaks more loudly than I'd prefer to hear regarding the lack of awareneness of such simple consideration for others as pertains in this society.

juliaoceania -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/7/2011 7:24:08 PM)
quote: It is a behavioral situation, and even the need for such measure as was taken in this instance speaks more loudly than I'd prefer to hear regarding the lack of awareness to such simple consideration for others as pertains in this society. Like using voicemails to humiliate customers? You mean that sort of consideration?

Edwynn -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/7/2011 7:28:26 PM)
You've already missed the point by a far mile. No need to carry the embarassment further in that.

Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/7/2011 7:37:03 PM)
In my area, it's heard all the time, Sacramento California, People have all kinds of rude behaviors, like talking loudly on their cell phones, acting like doofus's in lines an places like fast foods, and other places. One lady at the pharmacy while waiting kept picking her nose, and then studying what ever she came up with. quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze Maybe it's a cultural difference, but the only people I hear talking like that freak in the recording are what we usually term "chavs" or "hoodies" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav) you really don't get this kind of swearing and I'm glad for it. Several friends have kids, they have BBQs in the garden and yes, the language is rougher but nowhere near that. A person who can't express him or herself without the use of profanities, I think there's something seriously lacking in the brain department. On my side of the pond this kind of swearing is seldom heard from people without previous convictions or previous convictions waiting to happen. Might sound like an old foggy to you and I guess for you everybody above 30 is, but it's the way it works and I do tend to hang out with a lot of teenagers because I volunteer in the local community center for unemployed kids (teaching languages), the ones that want a job tend to modify their language rather sharpishly.

juliaoceania -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/7/2011 7:37:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Edwynn You've already missed the point by a far mile. No need to carry the embarassment further in that. Here is how honest sincere communication takes place, someone misunderstands your point, and then you clarify... Instead you choose to see it as some form of humiliation for me that I did not "get" your point... Yes, I can see that birds of a feather flock together... Go You!

Hillwilliam -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/7/2011 7:49:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP Years ago we used to go to a charming place on Key Biscaine that was so dimly lit it was common for a waiter to come around with a flashlight so you could read the menu. I was young then and still didn't enjoy straining my eyes. The English Pub? On the right just after you got onto the island?

WyldHrt -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/7/2011 8:40:12 PM)
quote: I am going by what the young lady said when she lodged her complaint.... she said she was asked to leave without a warning. I listened to the voicemail twice and she never actually said that she wasn't warned before being kicked out. She said that 'she didn't know' that texting wasn't allowed, but never said that she wasn't warned when caught doing it before being ejected. She might well have meant that she didn't know the policy before arriving, and didn't mention getting warned because she was pissed off. It seems odd to me that she didn't say it, because things like that are usually the first thing I hear when customers complain. I would sure mention a lack of warning were I complaining about being asked to leave a business for breaking a rule I wasn't aware of. Then again, she also said that she was just using the phone as a flashlight to find her seat... just before saying that this is the USA where people have the 'right' to text in a theater. Not very credible, IMO. The Alamo policy on talking seems to have been in place since 1997, with the texting ban probably coming a bit later. It is even mentioned prominently on the 'About' page of their website: http://drafthouse.com/about From the comments on youtube, it seems that there are warnings about talking and cell phone usage before the movie ever starts, and warnings are given before a patron is ejected.

WyldHrt -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/7/2011 8:49:35 PM)
quote: I don't agree with most of the posters, it seems a bit over the top of the theatre to throw her out for using her phone as a light, and even if she were texting, if it was on silent then I don't see any reason to throw her out. Have to disagree, Heather. A cell phone light is very distracting in a dark theater, both for the people on either side and several rows behind. The noise of key clicks is also bothersome for the people immediately in front, on either side, and behind a texter. Since all those people paid the same money she did, why should it be ok for her to ruin the movie for them?

littlewonder -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/7/2011 9:11:55 PM)
here at the theatres right before a movie starts, there's always an announcement to turn off cell phones....no texting or talking on phones because it is rude and distracting to other patrons and that you will be removed with no refund. Then there's a little cartoon movie that goes along with it. I've seen this same warning at many theatres around the country since when traveling I usually go to the movies if I have time. I would say there was this same type of warning but the girl was too engrossed in her texting to even hear or see it and she probably didn't care either. It is a distraction during movies. I absolutely hate when someone has their cell light shining and then there's the clicking. It takes away from the ambiance of the movie. If you want to use your phone, get up out of your seat and go in the hall. I don't understand why someone would pay $10 or more for a movie and then never watch it because they want to play around on their phone. Seems like such a waste. As for the girl's cursing, had she been business like in her complaint they may have taken her seriously. The language you use will be the deciding factor on how people view you and your problem. When we have people who come into my place of business and start cursing and screaming, absolutely no one takes them seriously and only the minimal work is done to be obliging to their complaint. No one wants to deal with beligerency. Now when someone comes and they are polite and not cursing and can speak in a calm, rational manner I will go out of my way to do everything I possibly can to help them. This girl hasn't seemed to learn this lesson and most likely has an anger issue along with a rebellious streak. As for children cursing, mine never cursed when she was young because I taught her it was rude and I rarely swore around her at home except a few times from stubbing a toe and once in an extreme rage and I always immediately apologized to her and told her it was wrong. To this day I think I've only ever heard her curse twice. I asked her once how she felt about such language now that she's an adult and she said she finds it rude and brutish. I remember one time a couple years ago she heard me say "fuck" because I hit a hammer on my finger and she asked me "why does your generation curse when the hurt themselves? It's stupid"...what could I say? She was right. LOL I now try harder not to curse at all even when in pain.

LinnaeaBorealis -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/7/2011 9:23:48 PM)
Interesting differing opinions here. I am on the side of the theater owners who clearly have a policy of no talking or texting. If this young woman didn't know about the policy, it could only be because she wasn't paying attention or she got there after the actual movie started. If it's the latter, I think that's rude also. It's very distracting for people already engrossed in the show to have the light when the door opens to admit the lategoer & the light from the phone to light her way to a seat. If that's indeed what she did. Heather, your argument that "everyone does it" holds no water with me. Just because everyone does it doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. My Father raised me to think for myself & to not be a sheeple. And FYI, I didn't curse when I was your age, except for maybe an occasional "Damn". And I never really understood why society chose certain words & branded them inappropriate. I did hear other children curse, just didn't do it myself. And JAS, your belief has been proven flawed by the people here who have a different experience than you have. This is why I try to use the disclaimer "In my experience". Because my experiences are not necessarily universal. So I went to the theater's website & was led to this page: http://www.badassdigest.com/2011/06/07/an-epic-history-of-the-alamo-drafthouse-dont-talk-psas This shows a history of the PSA's that the theater has produced to get their point across. And yes, this has been their policy since 1997. So if this young woman wasn't aware of the policy, she must be unbelievably obtuse. And IMO the young woman did sound intoxicated, although what that might have to do with anything, I'm not sure. ETA: Anyway, wtf do I know? I'm old.

HeatherMcLeather -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/7/2011 9:35:00 PM)
OK WyldHrt, I'm not really in a position to say one way or another. When I am enjoying a movie I am totally engrossed in it and I don't notice things like phones lighting up or keys clicking. When I think about it, I agree I would probably find it annoying if I noticed it. I just figured it was the ringing they were referring to in the "no cell phone" announcements at the start of a movie, never even thought about the other possibilities. And just to make sure nobody thinks I'm one of those inconsiderate cell phone users, let me point out that I do not own a cell phone of any description, nor have I ever.

juliaoceania -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/7/2011 9:40:55 PM)
I have noticed people checking their phones, txting... it hasn't ever bothered me. The movie usually lights up the room intermittently, so I just do not see the big deal. I will check my phone for the time every once in a while. I am not big into txting personally anyways. Sometimes I think people just want to be annoyed.

LadyPact -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/8/2011 1:54:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: gungadin09 To anyone: Does your opinion of whether the theater was right to run the ad depend on whether you think the girl was telling the truth? pam No, it doesn't. I'm another one who doesn't buy the 'that's how young people talk' bit. How a person might talk when hanging out with their friends is one thing. However, this was a case of a person dealing with a business and the language should have been to that standard. I don't believe for a second that the caller didn't know the difference. Anybody of the younger generation knows that darn near anything they do is able to be recorded, repeated, posted on the web. In this case, there's an even bigger audience. Had she not been abusive when she left the message on the theater's answering system in the first place, where it was absolutely obvious that it was recorded, it wouldn't be a problem at all.

HeatherMcLeather -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/8/2011 2:06:43 AM)
I got the impression she was just bitching at them, not that she was trying to get a refund or anything.

LadyPact -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/8/2011 2:09:19 AM)
Does that change it somehow to a casual call rather than a customer/business call?

HeatherMcLeather -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/8/2011 2:13:46 AM)
No, but it changes it from a business call to a rant.

LadyPact -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/8/2011 2:17:24 AM)
It's still not flying, heather. A complaint to a business still keeps it in a professional realm.

HeatherMcLeather -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/8/2011 2:23:37 AM)
OK, but the way I see it is she was pissed off and just wanted them to know it. I don't think she wanted or expected them to actually do anything about the situation. Under those circumstances I just don't see her language as all that bad. I've heard worse on the playground in grade 6.

LadyPact -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/8/2011 2:31:32 AM)
You may have heard it on the playground at age six. Did you hear it in the classroom as well? Probably not because even at that age, you were told in school that it wasn't appropriate and it wasn't acceptable to speak that way in that situation. She was still absolutely dealing with a business, even if she wasn't trying to get a refund. Actually, it's a great preventative measure. I'll bet every person who sees the ad will not only think twice about using the cell phone in the theater. They'll also think twice about leaving abusive messages.

HeatherMcLeather -> RE: Texter gets kicked out of theater and leaves (profane) VM (6/8/2011 2:59:44 AM)
This is silly, I'm not going to argue with you over this. I agree with you that one shouldn't talk that way in most situations. I hardly ever swear. I don't believe in calling just to bitch, and I never would have done what she did. Mostly I was just annoyed by all the posts assuming she was stupid or poorly educated, or an "ill bred, ignorant idiot". She was inappropriate, she showed no self control (both in the theater and on the phone), and she acted stupidly. But we've all acted stupidly, especially when we're mad and think we've been wronged. If doing something stupid now and then makes one an idiot, then admit it, by that standard we're all idiots. I know I would be.

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