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farglebargle -> RE: The state of politics today: "If Weiner comes after me, I'll release naked photos" (6/7/2011 7:20:52 PM)

There's a hard on? I mean, the local newspaper has the picture posted on their site. Are you telling a local newspaper isn't 'family oriented'?




juliaoceania -> RE: The state of politics today: "If Weiner comes after me, I'll release naked photos" (6/7/2011 7:21:12 PM)

When Republicans en masse call for the resignation of bible thumper Ensign after disguising funds through his parents to buy off his mistress's husband, then they might sound credible in attacking Weiner




farglebargle -> RE: The state of politics today: "If Weiner comes after me, I'll release naked photos" (6/7/2011 7:23:24 PM)


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ORIGINAL: lockedaway

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

That comment was meant for both sides of the isle.

Weiner isnt as bad as Arnold who isnt as bad as Clinton, who isnt as bad as Nixon.

See my point? Why dont we hold them responsible for their own actions as opposed to how bad their actions are in comparison with someone else?


No...I don't see your point.  I want to know why Nixon was so bad.  The Watergate Scandal?  Is that it?  The President that ended the war in Nam, opened up relations with China, furthered civil rights, created the EPA (which may continue to prove to be a huge mistake), what made him so bad?  Is the Watergate Scandal all you got?  You know, there are books comparing Clinton's Whitehouse to Nixon's and Nixon looks pretty good if only by comparison.

Also, if you are talking about affairs, please tell me the affairs or other lewd behavior engaged in by Truman or Dwight or Nixon or Ford or Carter or Reagan or HW Bush or W. Bush....or Obama, for that matter.  We elect scumbags and then we defend them for no better reason than they advance our political agenda.



You forget about how Nixon declared war on the Hippies, and was responsible for the death and disappearance of many people, including some quite famous rock-stars you've probably heard of now and again...




VioletGray -> RE: The state of politics today: "If Weiner comes after me, I'll release naked photos" (6/7/2011 7:24:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

That comment was meant for both sides of the isle.

Weiner isnt as bad as Arnold who isnt as bad as Clinton, who isnt as bad as Nixon.

See my point? Why dont we hold them responsible for their own actions as opposed to how bad their actions are in comparison with someone else?


I think this point is actually in agreement with mine. But again, my mentioning it was specifically for the purposes of pointing out an incongruity.
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ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA

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ORIGINAL: VioletGray

Does anyone think for a moment that this is anything other than politically motivated?



You're OP?  Yes, I'm 100% convinced it's politically motivated.




Pretending to misunderstand the question? Now THAT'S what I call deflection! lol

But seriously, I have nothing to hide, I freely admit that I am liberal. But I can say with a clear conscience that I have never wanted to see a republican's downfall in any way other than in the war of ideas.

Also, to be fair, I was also thought it was sleazy when that democrat tried to use that whole "Aquabuddha" thing against Rand Paul. Rand Paul is honest to a fault (if a little hypocritical sometimes) and I would definitely rather had seen him win vs. a democrat using dirty tricks.




tazzygirl -> RE: The state of politics today: "If Weiner comes after me, I'll release naked photos" (6/7/2011 7:27:12 PM)

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Also, if you are talking about affairs, please tell me the affairs or other lewd behavior engaged in by Truman or Dwight or Nixon or Ford or Carter or Reagan or HW Bush or W. Bush....or Obama, for that matter. We elect scumbags and then we defend them for no better reason than they advance our political agenda.


None of which were mentioned.

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No...I don't see your point. I want to know why Nixon was so bad. The Watergate Scandal? Is that it? The President that ended the war in Nam, opened up relations with China, furthered civil rights, created the EPA (which may continue to prove to be a huge mistake), what made him so bad? Is the Watergate Scandal all you got? You know, there are books comparing Clinton's Whitehouse to Nixon's and Nixon looks pretty good if only by comparison.


Weiner had shots of his cock that he sent to other women.

Arnold shoved his cock into other women

Clinton was accused to lying about an affair he had with a woman who was his intern to a grand jury

Nixon resigned as a result of Watergate and was questioned for 11 hours by a grand jury.




MasterSlaveLA -> RE: The state of politics today: "If Weiner comes after me, I'll release naked photos" (6/7/2011 7:30:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

Do you know that the first person to lose their cool



I'm perfectly cool... you're perfectly wrong.





lockedaway -> RE: The state of politics today: "If Weiner comes after me, I'll release naked photos" (6/7/2011 7:30:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle


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ORIGINAL: lockedaway

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

That comment was meant for both sides of the isle.

Weiner isnt as bad as Arnold who isnt as bad as Clinton, who isnt as bad as Nixon.

See my point? Why dont we hold them responsible for their own actions as opposed to how bad their actions are in comparison with someone else?


No...I don't see your point.  I want to know why Nixon was so bad.  The Watergate Scandal?  Is that it?  The President that ended the war in Nam, opened up relations with China, furthered civil rights, created the EPA (which may continue to prove to be a huge mistake), what made him so bad?  Is the Watergate Scandal all you got?  You know, there are books comparing Clinton's Whitehouse to Nixon's and Nixon looks pretty good if only by comparison.

Also, if you are talking about affairs, please tell me the affairs or other lewd behavior engaged in by Truman or Dwight or Nixon or Ford or Carter or Reagan or HW Bush or W. Bush....or Obama, for that matter.  We elect scumbags and then we defend them for no better reason than they advance our political agenda.



You forget about how Nixon declared war on the Hippies, and was responsible for the death and disappearance of many people, including some quite famous rock-stars you've probably heard of now and again...


Ummmmmmm....what rock stars are those, Fargle?  And, I disagree with you; Weiner's behavior most certainly reflects bad decision making at the very least and sociopathic meglomania.  On top of that, there is his blatant lying.  He is unfit to lead. 

If the issue was Weiner enjoying to get strap on fucked by his wife, I would say it is no one's business but theirs.




tazzygirl -> RE: The state of politics today: "If Weiner comes after me, I'll release naked photos" (6/7/2011 7:31:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

There's a hard on? I mean, the local newspaper has the picture posted on their site. Are you telling a local newspaper isn't 'family oriented'?


Much of what is in a local newspaper isnt g rated.




lockedaway -> RE: The state of politics today: "If Weiner comes after me, I'll release naked photos" (6/7/2011 7:33:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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Also, if you are talking about affairs, please tell me the affairs or other lewd behavior engaged in by Truman or Dwight or Nixon or Ford or Carter or Reagan or HW Bush or W. Bush....or Obama, for that matter. We elect scumbags and then we defend them for no better reason than they advance our political agenda.


None of which were mentioned.

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No...I don't see your point. I want to know why Nixon was so bad. The Watergate Scandal? Is that it? The President that ended the war in Nam, opened up relations with China, furthered civil rights, created the EPA (which may continue to prove to be a huge mistake), what made him so bad? Is the Watergate Scandal all you got? You know, there are books comparing Clinton's Whitehouse to Nixon's and Nixon looks pretty good if only by comparison.


Weiner had shots of his cock that he sent to other women.

Arnold shoved his cock into other women

Clinton was accused to lying about an affair he had with a woman who was his intern to a grand jury

Nixon resigned as a result of Watergate and was questioned for 11 hours by a grand jury.


As I said, Nixon looks pretty good compared to Clinton.  You know what one of Nixon's counts were for impeachment???  "Inquiring" (got that?  inquiring...not ordering) whether the IRS could be persuaded to audit certain enemies of Nixon.  Well shit...Clinton had a dozen people audited; people that made less than $55,000.00 per year.




Owner59 -> RE: The state of politics today: "If Weiner comes after me, I'll release naked photos" (6/7/2011 7:35:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SternSkipper

Violet... Just cause Breibart gets ONE scandal right (and I am sure it was put right in his lap), makes him no less a scumbag extortionist.
Give it a week, with not too many people paying him mind. He'll figure out yet another way to remind us all that "he's got the pictures".
But I think you know that based on the content of your own post.
Good post btw




It would be like a murderer trying to gain sympathy, after being falsely accused of rape and cleared of that charge.




MasterSlaveLA -> RE: The state of politics today: "If Weiner comes after me, I'll release naked photos" (6/7/2011 7:36:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: VioletGray

I have nothing to hide, I freely admit that I am liberal.



The fact that you're "liberal" is not the issue... that just means you have different views and/or believe in different approaches to remedy problem "x" than would one who is a "conservative".  Being "liberal" does not equate to being stupid any more than being "conservative" does -- and any defense of Weiner (liberal) or Schwarzenegger (conservative) is exactly that... STUPID.  It's not about Left and Right... but that which is right and wrong.  Anything beyond that is a distraction... and proof that you're being played the CHUMP.







Brain -> RE: The state of politics today: "If Weiner comes after me, I'll release naked photos" (6/7/2011 7:37:59 PM)

I agree with you, there are many Republicans who should have resigned including Clarence Thomas, Mark Warner the South Carolina Gov. and John Ensign only resigned to avoid being indicted.

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

This is all about Anthony Wiener's threat to Clarance Thomas and the Right Wing Supreme Court.

Anthony Wiener is being hounded, over something as erotic as this: http://imgur.com/iEXMu , because he's been drawing attention to Clarance Thomas' 'forgetting about' $650,000.00 in cash from people who had business in front of his court.

Thomas is the one who should be called to resign... Clarance Thomas has, with his actions, destroyed the integrity of the US Supreme Court...

Just like Eliot Spitzer was destroyed because he was warning us about Hank Greenberg and AIG before they imploded and destroyed the economy.





VioletGray -> RE: The state of politics today: "If Weiner comes after me, I'll release naked photos" (6/7/2011 7:45:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA

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ORIGINAL: VioletGray

I have nothing to hide, I freely admit that I am liberal.



The fact that you're "liberal" is not the issue... that just means you have different views and/or believe in different approaches to remedy problem "x" than would one who is a "conservative".  Being "liberal" does not equate to being stupid any more than being "conservative" does -- and any defense of Weiner (liberal) or Schwarzenegger (conservative) is exactly that... STUPID.  It's not about Left and Right... but that which is right and wrong.  Anything beyond that is a distraction... and proof that you're being played the CHUMP.






Where did I defend Anthony Weiner? OP was a lament to how he got into this situation. Of course it was through mistakes, but in combination with the agenda of some very powerful enemies. We all know what he did was wrong. But to be honest? I don't give a damn how wrong or right he is in his personal life, as long as it's not illegal and he's doing his job. Actually now that we're on the subject, I don't give a damn that he lied about his personal life either, that was none of our business to begin with.




SexyBossyBBW -> RE: The state of politics today: "If Weiner comes after me, I'll release naked photos" (6/7/2011 7:46:46 PM)

Maybe everyone would have left him alone, if he had the foresight to say, "Yes the photos appear to be mine." I should have known better, I apologize to anyone offended by the photos. Now I ask that you leave this personal business between me, and my wife alone, for us to deal with.

You know, because "phuck off, this is nonyah" would probably be too harsh, but I would almost bet, he thought about it. M




Owner59 -> RE: The state of politics today: "If Weiner comes after me, I'll release naked photos" (6/7/2011 7:47:24 PM)

He should go.

Just b/c the cons are enablers and wimps on ethics violations doesn`t mean dems can do that too.

This is why there IS a difference between parties.

We have shame,the republicans......not so much.

It`s not a race to the bottom.

Why is David Vitter still a US Senator after his hooker scandle?





tazzygirl -> RE: The state of politics today: "If Weiner comes after me, I'll release naked photos" (6/7/2011 7:51:14 PM)

obstruction of justice
abuse of power
contempt of Congress.




MasterSlaveLA -> RE: The state of politics today: "If Weiner comes after me, I'll release naked photos" (6/7/2011 8:07:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: VioletGray

I don't give a damn that he lied about his personal life either, that was none of our business to begin with.



Saving the above for when a Conservative lies about something of this nature, or a poster on the "relationship" side of CollarChat cheats on someone and you comment how they're scum for "lying".  You'll be reminded of your position here.





slvemike4u -> RE: The state of politics today: "If Weiner comes after me, I'll release naked photos" (6/7/2011 8:19:17 PM)

Obviously a referrence to Nixon's crimes......Locked's idiotic attempt to minimize those crimes is nothing more than a joke,albeit a sad,sad joke...but a joke all the same.While detailing the late,though not lamented Nixon's accomplishments he forgot to mention that Nixon is still the one and only American President who needed to resign in disgrace.....and taught a whole generation (specifically mine)that they could not trust their government




MasterSlaveLA -> RE: The state of politics today: "If Weiner comes after me, I'll release naked photos" (6/7/2011 8:19:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: VioletGray

Where did I defend Anthony Weiner?



Here...

"I've never thought of myself as one to have a deep patriotic streak, but I think that Breitbart and his methods are positively poisonous for our country."

So Breitbart is the EVIL one for exposing the lying scumbag -- and you think THAT'S "patriotic"?!!  Blame the person who exposes a scumbag, but not the scumbag for acting like a scumbag... yeah, that makes sense.  So I take it you absolutely MUST also think all those reporters who reported on the Schwarzenegger story are also "poisonous" to our country as well, yes?!!





VioletGray -> RE: The state of politics today: "If Weiner comes after me, I'll release naked photos" (6/7/2011 8:20:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Owner59

He should go.

Just b/c the cons are enablers and wimps on ethics violations doesn`t mean dems can do that too.



Has he been found guilty of an ethics violation? Just about everything I've heard (thus far) has been him on his own time with is own phone.


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ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA

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ORIGINAL: VioletGray

I don't give a damn that he lied about his personal life either, that was none of our business to begin with.



Saving the above for when a Conservative lies about something of this nature, or a poster on the "relationship" side of CollarChat cheats on someone and you comment how they're scum for "lying".  You'll be reminded of your position here.




::sigh:: let's try this aGAIN... I don't give a damn that arnold had a baby on the side, my point was not his behavior, but other people's behavior in response to his situation.

As for the "relationship" side of CollarChat... what on EARTH are you talking about? I'm pretty sure I've never been there.




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