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willbeurdaddy -> RE: The state of politics today: "If Weiner comes after me, I'll release naked photos" (6/7/2011 9:39:08 PM)
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That comment was meant for both sides of the isle.
Weiner isnt as bad as Arnold who isnt as bad as Clinton, who isnt as bad as Nixon.
See my point? Why dont we hold them responsible for their own actions as opposed to how bad their actions are in comparison with someone else?
No...I don't see your point. I want to know why Nixon was so bad. The Watergate Scandal? Is that it? The President that ended the war in Nam, opened up relations with China, furthered civil rights, created the EPA (which may continue to prove to be a huge mistake), what made him so bad? Is the Watergate Scandal all you got? You know, there are books comparing Clinton's Whitehouse to Nixon's and Nixon looks pretty good if only by comparison.
Also, if you are talking about affairs, please tell me the affairs or other lewd behavior engaged in by Truman or Dwight or Nixon or Ford or Carter or Reagan or HW Bush or W. Bush....or Obama, for that matter. We elect scumbags and then we defend them for no better reason than they advance our political agenda.
I think Nixon was pretty bad, not because Watergate itself was so bad, it wasn't a big deal in the context of the dirty tricks of the time. It pales in comparison to the theft that was Kennedy's election for example.
The problem was that his loyalty to his guys got in the way of loyalty to the country, and it was the first time that happened in most of our lifetimes. It demeaned the office, irrecoverably probably. It was the beginning of the destruction of faith in our government.
His (former) house is fucking amazing though!
You mean his house in Ridgewood? Ridgewood is a great town! I can't go there with you regarding Nixon. Ok...he was loyal to his men and, perhaps, loyal to a fault. I strain to consider that bad. Did it get in the way of tending to the country yes. BUT....FDR was the first president to try to stack the Supreme Court in order to pursue a tragically progressive political agenda. So...which president has had longer lasting ramifications for the country?
As far as losing faith in the office, Carter was no slouch. Clinton was a terrible embarrassment as well for reasons that are far too numerous to list. HW Bush was a shameless progressive and globalist and, in the grand scheme of things, his son wasn't a whole lot better.
In your opinion, who was the last president that was worth his salt?
No his house in San Clemente, CA.
Last POTUS worth his salt...that depends on how perfect one has to be to be worth his salt. GWB was the last POTUS worth his salt on the most important issues, but he had some shortcomings on the spending side and dropped the ball on immigration. Top to bottom, domestically and foreign policy, Reagan. Before him Kennedy, who had the same spending shortcomings as GWB, but economically and foreign policy wise was great. (A tax cutting hawk who was an actual war hero). He is the last Keynesian Democrat who understood both sides of Keynesian economics...spending is a stimulus, but not when its running up huge deficits.
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