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Corn surplus much lower than projected - 6/9/2011 10:28:12 AM   
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What I am wondering is, if corn surplus becomes critical do you curtail purchasing for ethanol, and allow only food producers to purchase?

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RE: Corn surplus much lower than projected - 6/9/2011 10:53:49 AM   
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More food riots are sure to follow, with predictably very little media attention just like last time.

And of course governments around the globe had ought to halt subsidizing food into fuel projects, immediately..

When we can drill for fuel, or mine it, its insane to starve the poor in order to create it.


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RE: Corn surplus much lower than projected - 6/9/2011 11:08:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		Federal EPA rules dictate how much ethanol is in the fuel we are forced to buy. We will not have a choice as to buy that crap fuel or not.

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RE: Corn surplus much lower than projected - 6/9/2011 11:09:24 AM   
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RE: Corn surplus much lower than projected - 6/9/2011 11:37:33 AM   
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RE: Corn surplus much lower than projected - 6/9/2011 11:43:58 AM   
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RE: Corn surplus much lower than projected - 6/9/2011 11:48:06 AM   
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How many people can be fed on the pounds of corn it takes to produce one pound of beef?


As ruminants I guess they are gonna do around 10 pounds of corn (around 1/5th or 1/6th of a bushel) to get a pound of beef...maybe more. 

Thats alotta corn flakes.





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RE: Corn surplus much lower than projected - 6/9/2011 11:50:24 AM   
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RE: Corn surplus much lower than projected - 6/9/2011 11:52:52 AM   
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RE: Corn surplus much lower than projected - 6/9/2011 11:53:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		This problem will get worse if the Obama administration allows the EPA to increase the percentage of ethanol in our fuels. The only ones benefitting from this crap are the producers who are subsidized for making it.

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RE: Corn surplus much lower than projected - 6/9/2011 11:59:18 AM   
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EPA is forcing nothing, it is permitting a 15% blend up from 10% to be sold in the US.

Dude, know what you are talking about, this ethanol is hard on american engines, they were not set up for it, it is a balance between creation of jobs, using less imported oil and blowing up typical crappy american shoddy manufacturing in automobiles.  

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RE: Corn surplus much lower than projected - 6/9/2011 11:59:44 AM   
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Nutritional Value of Corn:
Corn or maize is one of the most popular cereals in the world. Corn forms the staple food of numerous people in different countries including, US, India, etc. Nutrition Facts and Information about Corn: Corn is rich in phosphorus, magnesium, manganese, zinc, copper, iron and selenium. It also has small amounts of potassium. Vitamin Content: Corn has Vitamin B (Thiamin, Vitamin B6, Niacin, Riboflavin, Folate). It has traces of Vitamin A and Vitamin E. Calorie Content of Corn: Cereals are the prime source of calories for many people. The calorific value of most cereals lies between 330 to 350 calories per 100 gm, the calorific value of corn being 342 calories per 100 gm.
Health Benefits of Corn: There are no particular health benefits of corn, except for the fact that it provides necessary calories for daily metabolism of the body. Corn is good for skin care, boosting nervous system, digestion, and maintaining low cholesterol levels

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RE: Corn surplus much lower than projected - 6/9/2011 12:01:14 PM   
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Or a toothless hick, suckin on hominy or other grits, don't know no better.

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RE: Corn surplus much lower than projected - 6/9/2011 12:01:34 PM   
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Typical  - barely even a half truth, if that.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Policy_Act_of_2005

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Independence_and_Security_Act_of_2007

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Those federal EPA rules were voted into law by republicans early in the W administration.




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RE: Corn surplus much lower than projected - 6/9/2011 12:07:22 PM   
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Eat grass fed locally raised beef. It's better for ya.

Hell yissal....There`s a farm here in Sussex Co. that produces free range beef,chickens,eggs,natural milk and milk products.And they`re damm good quality.

And I asked one of the owners if he received any government subsidies.No.He got money once after a long drought more than 20 years ago but that was it.

He`s doing well without being subsidized.

Any interest in discussing artificial market manipulation through tax payer funded farm subsidies?

Anyone?

Orion?



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RE: Corn surplus much lower than projected - 6/9/2011 12:08:10 PM   
mnottertail


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The second during the W oil crisis (and not so much to do with ethanol directly as the first bill was all about ethanol) and signed into law by W.

I would say at least 75% correct, (I could argue for more since the pubs voted second one too), but I have a passing grade and you with your innumeracy have an epic fail.

Thanks for the links.  And the proof of my position. 
Welcome to the dark side, glad to have you hunting my proofs for me.  We will turn you into a fact man yet.  

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RE: Corn surplus much lower than projected - 6/9/2011 12:15:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Eat grass fed locally raised beef. It's better for ya.

Hell yissal....There`s a farm here in Sussex Co. that produces free range beef,chickens,eggs,natural milk and milk products.And they`re damm good quality.

And I asked one of the owners if he received any government subsidies.No.He got money once after a long drought more than 20 years ago but that was it.

He`s doing well without being subsidized.

Any interest in discussing artificial market manipulation through tax payer funded farm subsidies?

Anyone?

Orion?




No, and you wont get subsidies for that, Wheat and Corn.

They can be traded on wall street on paper, grass and organic tomatoes cant.

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RE: Corn surplus much lower than projected - 6/9/2011 12:19:33 PM   
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RE: Corn surplus much lower than projected - 6/9/2011 12:27:05 PM   
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I am surprised blowjob futures are not on this list, I know the market is out there, boyo.

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RE: Corn surplus much lower than projected - 6/9/2011 1:25:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		It is not just beef, but pork and chicken as far as meats go. Then you have the corn sweetners that are used in a lot of different products. The price of corn is directly related to grocery prices for many items that has beef, pork or chicken, as well as that uses corn sweetners.

Corn is the mainstaple of the grocery industry.

From the article:

" That means U.S. food prices can be expected to stay high through 2012. "


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How many people can be fed on the pounds of corn it takes to produce one pound of beef?


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