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mnottertail -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 1:41:01 PM)

have you ever done anything that is not an unfounded attack?




Sanity -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 1:41:20 PM)


Describing hateful behavior and words as hateful is merely describing behavior julia.

Its not name calling at all...

You dont even know what a personal attack is, do you?

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
If you hit many of those links in my last post, you will see him call many very centrist posters in this forums "leftists", accuse many other very moderate posters of being "hateful"... many many people. I only hit the first 4 pages, and only did one search. He really isn't out to win friends or influence people. It appears to me as if he has been so brainwashed against anything that his masters think of as "left" it has completely warped his world view of his fellow Americans.

I think Sanity's posts are a prime example of what too much extreme media can do to one's mind....





juliaoceania -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 1:41:28 PM)

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julia - youre never too bored of all these constant personal attacks of yours to make yet another personal attack though, are you. 


So, what you are saying is that my reminding you of your posting history is a personal attack....

Very interesting stance there




Moonhead -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 1:41:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity
To moon - the term "leftist" is not personal. [;)]

julia - youre never too bored of all these constant personal attacks of yours to make yet another personal attack though, are you. 

And again, the mere use of the term "leftist" is not a  personal attack.  [;)]


It's a personal attack when you're using it as a term of abuse, sweetie, particularly when (as Lucy points out) you're applying it even more widely than Rik the sociology student applies the term "fascist"...




farglebargle -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 1:43:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


To moon - the term "leftist" is not personal. [;)]

julia - youre never too bored of all these constant personal attacks of yours to make yet another personal attack though, are you. 

And again, the mere use of the term "leftist" is not a  personal attack.  [;)]



No, but in the context you seem to use it, it certainly comes off that way more often than not.

I look at it this way, when someone has to call people names, they've lost whatever argument they had been trying to advance.




Sanity -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 1:46:07 PM)


Think - Ive never written that will never call a spade a spade.

The point is that leftists commonly rely on making personal attacks their entire basis for argument, not that others including myself never do it.


quote:

ORIGINAL: Moonhead


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity
To moon - the term "leftist" is not personal. [;)]

julia - youre never too bored of all these constant personal attacks of yours to make yet another personal attack though, are you. 

And again, the mere use of the term "leftist" is not a  personal attack.  [;)]


It's a personal attack when you're using it as a term of abuse, sweetie, particularly when (as Lucy points out) you're applying it even more widely than Rik the sociology student applies the term "fascist"...




juliaoceania -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 1:46:51 PM)

He does it to stir the pot and troll the topics and derail threads, and then he can put on his little victim hat and say "you leftists just personally attack me" without ever posting one fucking factual thing in the entire process

It is clear in the posting history above if anyone is as bored as I was and cares to look at it, and it is just ONE term. He does it with the word "liberal" and "progressive", too.




Sanity -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 1:47:22 PM)




This coming from you is absolutely hysterical. [:D]

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle
No, but in the context you seem to use it, it certainly comes off that way more often than not.

I look at it this way, when someone has to call people names, they've lost whatever argument they had been trying to advance.




farglebargle -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 1:47:28 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


Think - Ive never written that will never call a spade a spade.

The point is that leftists commonly rely on making personal attacks their entire basis for argument, not that others including myself never do it.


quote:

ORIGINAL: Moonhead


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity
To moon - the term "leftist" is not personal. [;)]

julia - youre never too bored of all these constant personal attacks of yours to make yet another personal attack though, are you. 

And again, the mere use of the term "leftist" is not a  personal attack.  [;)]


It's a personal attack when you're using it as a term of abuse, sweetie, particularly when (as Lucy points out) you're applying it even more widely than Rik the sociology student applies the term "fascist"...



Quantify "Commonly". I mean that's a hell of a claim to make, so let's see some objective evidence supporting it.




mnottertail -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 1:48:18 PM)

But we are still trying to determine what you do besides unfounded imputations, lies, dissembling, attacks, and rushfelching.

Because nobody can find one credible citeable assertation you have made on this site, and by god, they've looked.




farglebargle -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 1:50:25 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity




This coming from you is absolutely hysterical. [:D]

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle
No, but in the context you seem to use it, it certainly comes off that way more often than not.

I look at it this way, when someone has to call people names, they've lost whatever argument they had been trying to advance.



Well, see here's a perfect example. I share the observation about your usage of the term, and rather than addressing the content of my comment, you choose to shit all over the thread with some sort of tangential comment about me.





Sanity -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 1:51:59 PM)


Keep telling yourself that julia...

Leftists is merely a descriptive term. It matters not what term is used because you need something to try to attack the messenger with... so you will grab the first thing that you can think of.

If its not that you dont like the term I call leftists by then it will be the t shirt I wear, it will be my state of residence, or any of a million other things.

Because again, for the most part leftists cannot argue logically, they consistently have to rely on these lower levels of discourse that I am describing and that are on full display throughout these threads.

quote:

ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

He does it to stir the pot and troll the topics and derail threads, and then he can put on his little victim hat and say "you leftists just personally attack me" without ever posting one fucking factual thing in the entire process

It is clear in the posting history above if anyone is as bored as I was and cares to look at it, and it is just ONE term. He does it with the word "liberal" and "progressive", too.




mnottertail -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 1:52:27 PM)

what message do you carry?  I have seen none.




Moonhead -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 1:52:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

But we are still trying to determine what you do besides unfounded imputations, lies, dissembling, attacks, and rushfelching.

He calls people leftists as well.
I think he's one of the posters in here who resorts to "libtard" as well, come to that, while getting arsey* if anybody uses the term neocon as a generalisation because that's obviously a diss...

*(Limey for "butthurt")




mnottertail -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 1:53:41 PM)

no, I think he has been adjured from using that as I have my non-inflaming descriptive term for the rightists.




farglebargle -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 1:54:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity
Because again, for the most part leftists cannot argue logically, they consistently have to rely on these lower levels of discourse that I am describing and that are on full display throughout these threads.


Let's see some objective evidence to support your hypothesis, "for the most part leftists cannot argue logically".

I would like to see a review of extant literature with a statistically significant sample size, myself, and I think everyone would agree that a published peer reviewed study would be interesting to see...




mnottertail -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 1:55:28 PM)

he cant get beyond that.  cuz he cant argue using logic.




Sanity -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 1:55:50 PM)


Thats a very good point moon, thank you.

For leftists to scream foul for being referred to as leftists is bizarre considering all the names they invent for those who they constantly spew their vitriol and hate at.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Moonhead


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

But we are still trying to determine what you do besides unfounded imputations, lies, dissembling, attacks, and rushfelching.

He calls people leftists as well.
I think he's one of the posters in here who resorts to "libtard" as well, come to that, while getting arsey* if anybody uses the term neocon as a generalisation because that's obviously a diss...

*(Limey for "butthurt")




Lucylastic -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 1:56:25 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


You realize this is just further personal attack / hijack right?

Am I not supposed to respond to these? [:D]

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Out of 187 posts You have made the following 40 posts(listed below)
IM just pointing out your posts to show hijacking, attacking and lack of on topic comments
Each one is just the gist and paraphrased.
I was a bit bored this morning, so decided just to show you what you post and why others respond to you, do you see where you might be bringing much of this on yourself?
The subject was the Palin emails, and how many posts did you make regarding said topic?
3..maybe four
I certainly am not admitting I stuck to the topic, and I am quite aware that it became frenzied,
This is about your posting to threads, not about YOU ..just your threads
That I can be so pernickety and nit picking is my issue,
Im just making a point that your posts are antagonistic and hateful in themselves
this is MY take on it
Palin emails
post 15...off topic, attacking liberals
post 22 ...attackin mark
post 24 ...attacking joy behar
post 27, ccomplimetng mark
pst 40 ...double post
Post42 ...all about coulter, mobs act demonic. lefties act like mobs
Post'45 ...never enough hate palin threads(maybe on topic)
Post49... ignoring topic
Post50... praising coulter
Post53 ...attacking julia,
Post57... media leaned left for thirty years
Post57 ...Denying that he called anyone a demon
Post62 ...praising coulter
Post63 ...denying he is a drama queen
Post65 ...denying he called me irrational cray etc
Post70 ......accusation of hate
Post71 ...whines everyone is making it all about him
Post73 ...back peddling
Post77 ...back peddling about coulter comments
Post79 ...mentions palin....might be on topic
Post82...accuses lefties of photosopping, lying, taking quotes out of context, etc
Post 85... left does hate and rage
Post117 ...Attacking moore, and the lefto for hatrted of coulter
Post 129 ...Leftists cant stand dissent
Post 130... accusation of twisted logic and then refusing to explain
Post 132 ...OMG a palin response but only with news that leftists sent nasty threatening emails to palin
Post 133 ...all about lefties and once again dissent
Post136... leftists again
Post143 ...calling widows shills
Post147... 911 widows
Post149... blaming julia of character assassination
Post156 ...pathetic leftists using 911 to by pass logic
Post 157... 911 widows despicable organisation
Post 159... admits to being a heartless bastard
Post167 ...All about the left hijacking threads and attacking him
Post169... widows using death
Post 178... mean spirited lefties
Post 183 ...back atcha babe
Post 185 ...explanation of his tagline about personal attacks



Last point, I realise Im gonna get shit for this.. and that Im being petty, but this is my opinion of your posts.
Wheres the debate?? wheres the "argument" ?



Respond all you wish, but I suggest leaving my mental state as you see it, out of a response.
What part of "I certainly am not admitting I stuck to the topic, and I am quite aware that it became frenzied,
This is about your posting to threads, not about YOU ..just your threads"
didnt you understand????




juliaoceania -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 1:57:36 PM)

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Because again, for the most part leftists cannot argue logically, they consistently have to rely on these lower levels of discourse that I am describing and that are on full display throughout these threads.


Again, here you are, painting an entire diverse political movement with a broad brush, 50% of Americans are on one side of that statement, or the other, and yet you cannot find that statement to be completely divisive, hateful, and it isn't even factually true

You cannot post any sort of proof of this assertion, you just say it it personally attack anyone that does not agree with you, which is what ideologues that rely on hate mongers for their sources, do.




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