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Moonhead -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 2:02:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity
Thats a very good point moon, thank you.

For leftists to scream foul for being referred to as leftists is bizarre considering all the names they invent for those who they constantly spew their vitriol and hate at.

I think Julia was more taking issue with you calling centrists, reactionaries and other non leftist folk leftists, but if you don't want to try to answer that one, carry on changing the subject.



farglebargle -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 2:05:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity
Because again, for the most part leftists cannot argue logically, they consistently have to rely on these lower levels of discourse that I am describing and that are on full display throughout these threads.


We're still waiting to see some objective evidence to support your hypothesis, "for the most part leftists cannot argue logically".

I would like to see a review of extant literature with a statistically significant sample size, myself, and I think everyone would agree that a published peer reviewed study would be interesting to see...




Sanity -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 2:05:28 PM)


Again, you would attack me this same way for something else even if I called you liberals or even anything you might personally find preferable

By virtue of the fact that you cannot win debates with logic and reason those who share your failed ideology need the personal attack, and you will use anything or invent something to achieve it

That I refer to you collectively as leftists is just whats handy for you right now, otherwise you would be going on and on and on about something else, anything else

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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Because again, for the most part leftists cannot argue logically, they consistently have to rely on these lower levels of discourse that I am describing and that are on full display throughout these threads.


Again, here you are, painting an entire diverse political movement with a broad brush, 50% of Americans are on one side of that statement, or the other, and yet you cannot find that statement to be completely divisive, hateful, and it isn't even factually true

You cannot post any sort of proof of this assertion, you just say it it personally attack anyone that does not agree with you, which is what ideologues that rely on hate mongers for their sources, do.



farglebargle -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 2:07:43 PM)

I think if I have to ask a THIRD TIME for you to provide evidence to support your hypothesis, and you fail to do so, that we can all conclude that you cannot provide objective evidence to support your stated hypothesis, and that the hypothesis can be considered false going forward.

Now, how ironic is it to have a tagline which itself has failed to be sustained through reasoned and logical examination?



Lucylastic -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 2:07:56 PM)

nm, over stepped a personal and TOS boundary



Sanity -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 2:09:06 PM)


If someone seems to be hysterical, even hints that theyre aware that they are, why couldnt someone poke a little fun at that fact?

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Respond all you wish, but I suggest leaving my mental state as you see it, out of a response.
What part of "I certainly am not admitting I stuck to the topic, and I am quite aware that it became frenzied,
This is about your posting to threads, not about YOU ..just your threads"
didnt you understand????




farglebargle -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 2:12:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity
Because again, for the most part leftists cannot argue logically, they consistently have to rely on these lower levels of discourse that I am describing and that are on full display throughout these threads.


We're just about done waiting to see some objective evidence to support your hypothesis, "for the most part leftists cannot argue logically".

I would like to see a review of extant literature with a statistically significant sample size, myself, and I think everyone would agree that a published peer reviewed study would be interesting to see...





Moonhead -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 2:13:03 PM)

Because you have a tendency to run screaming for a mod the second anybody does, on past form.



juliaoceania -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 2:13:11 PM)

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By virtue of the fact that you cannot win debates with logic and reason those who share your failed ideology need the personal attack, and you will use anything or invent something to achieve it


This from the person who never substantiates anything he says with a scholarly article, a mainstream news source (because its all "slanted by this vast left wing conspiracy). Who defends personalities instead of actual positions. If you did you would have a little respect around here from many more people.

I saw one post where you called musicmystery a "leftist"... this is how out of control you are with that label, as if it is an insult, anyways

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That I refer to you collectively as leftists is just whats handy for you right now, otherwise you would be going on and on and on about something else, anything else


You do it because you are intellectually lazy



Lucylastic -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 2:13:39 PM)

because your definiton of hysterical is aimed at any woman you cannot argue against therefore its not an opinion it is an attack.
now why dont you respond to the other question I asked.
if you cant do it honestly, dont bother





mnottertail -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 2:13:57 PM)

By virtue of the fact that you cannot win debates with logic and reason those who share your failed ideology need the personal attack, and you will use anything or invent something to achieve it

So, is this a debate that you can speak honestly on, assert credible fact, and logic and reason this time around, cuz you never have before?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_2241701/mpage_2/key_plumber/tm.htm#2242764

or this?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_3334248/mpage_1/tm.htm

or this?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_3322683/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#3322779

or this?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_2865734/mpage_1/key_river/tm.htm#2865734

or this?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_3313610/tm.htm







Lucylastic -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 2:15:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania


You do it because you are intellectually lazy


Plus its the only word  he can use that wont get him moderated




farglebargle -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 2:20:03 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity
for the most part leftists cannot argue logically,


This hypothesis has failed to be supported, and is considered false.



juliaoceania -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 2:22:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

quote:

ORIGINAL: juliaoceania


You do it because you are intellectually lazy


Plus its the only word  he can use that wont get him moderated




I am leaning toward intellectually lazy, because if he wasn't he could actually substantiate what he says instead of using such rhetorical tricks.



Lucylastic -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 2:23:43 PM)

good point!



Sanity -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 4:14:44 PM)


Just another baseless smear

EXAMPLE

Any regular here knows that hardly anyone posts more links and article quotes to hard news from as many widely varied sources as I

Thus, you only further make my point for me julia

So I thank you for your help



quote:

ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

quote:

By virtue of the fact that you cannot win debates with logic and reason those who share your failed ideology need the personal attack, and you will use anything or invent something to achieve it


This from the person who never substantiates anything he says with a scholarly article, a mainstream news source (because its all "slanted by this vast left wing conspiracy). Who defends personalities instead of actual positions. If you did you would have a little respect around here from many more people.

I saw one post where you called musicmystery a "leftist"... this is how out of control you are with that label, as if it is an insult, anyways

quote:


That I refer to you collectively as leftists is just whats handy for you right now, otherwise you would be going on and on and on about something else, anything else


You do it because you are intellectually lazy








Sanity -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 4:20:38 PM)


Why do you assume that only women get hysterical...

Are you that sexist? [;)]

I only used that term because it so precisely described your behavior at the time, I didnt use it to insult you I used it to describe what I was observing

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

because your definiton of hysterical is aimed at any woman you cannot argue against therefore its not an opinion it is an attack.
now why dont you respond to the other question I asked.
if you cant do it honestly, dont bother






Sanity -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 4:24:15 PM)


What I write in this thread you substantiate for me, with practically every post that you make. 

quote:

ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

I am leaning toward intellectually lazy, because if he wasn't he could actually substantiate what he says instead of using such rhetorical tricks.



juliaoceania -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 4:25:58 PM)

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An regular here knows that hardly anyone posts more links and article quotes to hard news from as many widely varied sources than I


Not in any of the quotes I pulled from you when you were attacking with NO evidence whatsoever... I refer you to farglebargle's quotes on this thread

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity
for the most part leftists cannot argue logically,


This hypothesis has failed to be supported, and is considered false.

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An regular here knows that hardly anyone posts more links and article quotes to hard news from as many widely varied sources than I


You do this ALL OF THE TIME.... and never have a reference to support your assertions.

Many of us posts links to start a thread, that is NOT the same thing as supporting your claims with evidence, backing your claims with research... example: I asked you to produce evidence that the 911 widows were somehow politically motivated, not grief motivated, to pursue answers to the deaths of their husbands.... did you provide anything resembling proof? Did they profit off of this? Did they get a job? Were they paid money? Were they personally involved with anyone that was running for office on this issue?

Stop while you are ahead, because Ron posted a few threads in which you could not support your assertions, I am sure there are many many many more such posts... In fact many times when you bash people for being leftists it it because you have no evidence of what you say.



juliaoceania -> RE: The Palin Emails (6/12/2011 4:29:15 PM)

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Why do you assume that only women get hysterical...


Do you even know where the word comes from? And I am wondering, have you ever called a man on this forum hysterical?



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