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RE: Black Repub Ken Barnes Wakes Up... - 6/15/2011 7:18:45 PM   
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shrub did well with Hispanics. He really did try to earn their votes.And did well with that demographic.

Illegal immigration doubled under bush`s watch(nap) tho and he got a lot of bashing by the minute-man types.

It`s been down hill since then.Especially with the extreme shit over illegals.






The level of demonization of brown skinned people in those ads is intolerable to me.... the 2010 election cycle undid everything Bush had accomplished with that demographic... but the challenge of the tea party pushed that issue

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RE: Black Repub Ken Barnes Wakes Up... - 6/15/2011 7:31:14 PM   
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RE: Black Repub Ken Barnes Wakes Up... - 6/15/2011 7:35:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		I keep saying it and saying it,the Tea Party is as dangerous to this version of the Republican Party as the religious right was to Reagans Republican Party....it will energize and invigorate for a cycle or two...but in the end it will cost the party election after election.Catering to the fringe is never a good idea....much like the party found the religious right driving the bus...they will soon wake up and find that folks like Palin and Bacmann are actual power players in their party...all because of the sway they hold with the wing nuts of the tea party.

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RE: Black Repub Ken Barnes Wakes Up... - 6/15/2011 7:40:13 PM   
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I keep saying it and saying it,the Tea Party is as dangerous to this version of the Republican Party as the religious right was to Reagans Republican Party....it will energize and invigorate for a cycle or two...but in the end it will cost the party election after election.Catering to the fringe is never a good idea....much like the party found the religious right driving the bus...they will soon wake up and find that folks like Palin and Bacmann are actual power players in their party...all because of the sway they hold with the wing nuts of the tea party.


This.


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RE: Black Repub Ken Barnes Wakes Up... - 6/15/2011 8:16:04 PM   
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Did anyone see the latest about Bachman?

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RE: Black Repub Ken Barnes Wakes Up... - 6/15/2011 8:25:03 PM   
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RE: Black Repub Ken Barnes Wakes Up... - 6/15/2011 8:27:19 PM   
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RE: Black Repub Ken Barnes Wakes Up... - 6/15/2011 8:28:17 PM   
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lol your crystal ball is in bad need of polishing



Actually it is hindsight that he needs glasses for

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RE: Black Repub Ken Barnes Wakes Up... - 6/15/2011 8:30:29 PM   
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lol your crystal ball is in bad need of polishing



Actually it is hindsight that he needs glasses for
And, in hindsight, the teabaggers would NEVER have let any Civil Rights legislation pass.


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RE: Black Repub Ken Barnes Wakes Up... - 6/15/2011 8:30:42 PM   
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For example, Obama's answer to create jobs is to give free educations and graduate 10,000 more engineers each year. Well we already have 10,000 engineers graduating each year that can't find jobs. Obama is so full of shit, I'll bet he wears a diaper in between dumps.

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RE: Black Repub Ken Barnes Wakes Up... - 6/15/2011 8:32:01 PM   
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lol your crystal ball is in bad need of polishing



Actually it is hindsight that he needs glasses for
And, in hindsight, the teabaggers would NEVER have let any Civil Rights legislation pass.



Which is directly related to the thread....

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RE: Black Repub Ken Barnes Wakes Up... - 6/15/2011 8:36:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		I thought the relevant part of his post was the bullshit about English speakers becoming minorities in their own land.Very telling that bit of fear.
I myself have absolutely no fear of being misunderstood,certainly not to a language barrier.....lol.

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RE: Black Repub Ken Barnes Wakes Up... - 6/15/2011 8:43:14 PM   
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And, in hindsight, the teabaggers would NEVER have let any Civil Rights legislation pass.



Which is directly related to the thread....
If baggers were capable of critical thinking, they wouldn't BE baggers. I've never found it difficult to remain on topic, but then, my IQ is closer to Marilyn Vos-Savant's than that of a Llasa-Apso.


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RE: Black Repub Ken Barnes Wakes Up... - 6/15/2011 8:45:00 PM   
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RE: Black Repub Ken Barnes Wakes Up... - 6/15/2011 8:58:16 PM   
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I thought the relevant part of his post was the bullshit about English speakers becoming minorities in their own land.Very telling that bit of fear.
I myself have absolutely no fear of being misunderstood,certainly not to a language barrier.....lol.
You mentioned earlier about being surprised that this thread went so far (including the idiocy). A thread I started several months ago had to do with Terror Management, which is how people cope with the inevitable end, and not Tom Ridge's color-coded fear-mongering. There seems to be a strong correlation between cognitive dissonance, terror-management strategies, and political affiliation.

IMO, maladaptive coping strategies include the need to believe in an afterlife, as well as "conservative" political beliefs.

"I don't fear death, because I know there is an afterlife, but I don't want to die early. Change threatens my sense of well-being. The unknown threatens my well-being. The different threatens my well-being. I will, therefore, do my best to maintain the status quo." (or, at least, that's how I perceive the thought process, whether it is conscious or not). And that line of reasoning leads, reductio ad absurdum, to invading another country to secure the energy supply. It leads to opposing gay marriage. It leads to persecution of Atheists. It leads to the demonization of Jews, Blacks, Native Americans, Chinese, even to the point of despising "garlic eaters" (a line in "It's a Wonderful Life").

I think the concept, in Psychology, of Terror Management has much to commend it.


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RE: Black Repub Ken Barnes Wakes Up... - 6/16/2011 7:08:42 AM   
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Prove, from your OWN definition:

1. "...routinely advantage whites while producing cumulative and chronic adverse outcomes for people of color"
 
I would think that tax breaks to large corporations, trying to bust unions, constantly trying to defeat minimum wage would be a tip on that iceberg.


2. "... hierarchy and inequity"

That needs fleshing out, perhaps we could empanel 3 or 4 senior black senators and congressmen with say 10-25 years in the republican party now serving to give us the real skinny on this issue. 

3. "...white supremacy"

Yeah, see above and David Duke and but that is mincing pretty fine from the overall idea here.


4. "...privilege and power for white people at the expense of Black, Latino, Asian, Pacific Islander, Native American, Arab"

Repeal of Glass-Stegall, their fix to the savings and loan crisis further exacerbating problems, their vast and popular works in improving the inner city, allowing unfair usury in mortgages by banks to folks of colour, anti-busing,  blowing the fuck out of Iraq for no reason was a great help to Arabs, their vigorous social programs thru the years.......I guess I could think about it and come up with some concrete proofs, this just off the top of my head....
 

Go ahead... provide you definitive evidence for this is "Structrually" or "Institutionally" a foundation of the Republican Party?  Hint: Neither Steele or Barnes have done so -- and neither have you. If you can't (as you haven't thus far), then your continued insistence that it exists is either woefully ignorant, partisan, or an outright lie.




I wouldn't have to post a sign on the clubhouse door saying no women allowed for instance, you would get the gimmick once you found that there were only mens bathrooms in there. 

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RE: Black Repub Ken Barnes Wakes Up... - 6/16/2011 7:10:16 AM   
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Well you do realize that if the Tea party revolution had occurred 50 years ago, we wouldn't be $14 trillion in debt right now, with over 9% official unemployment, 16% black unemployment, and we wouldn't have an Immigration problem that threatens to turn English speaking Americans into a minority group in their own land.


Yeah because look at how we are in a record debt and record deficit with a republican house.  So, that makes some big sense, hah?

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