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tazzygirl -> RE: Black Repub Ken Barnes Wakes Up... (6/15/2011 1:06:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Uh, the republican party billed themselves as progressive at their creation.

All the shit they are against now, they were for before they were against it.

Education
Infrastructure spending
Unions
Stong Federal Government

and so on.....

So, let us not drift too far into bullshit..



You cant teach someone that isnt here to learn, Master Ron.




MasterSlaveLA -> RE: Black Repub Ken Barnes Wakes Up... (6/15/2011 1:09:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

Examples?



Hmmm... let's see... your silly premise that those people (at a Code Pink sponsored rally) are not "Liberals"?!!

Talk about desperate?!! [8|]






MasterSlaveLA -> RE: Black Repub Ken Barnes Wakes Up... (6/15/2011 1:10:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

You cant teach someone that isnt here to learn


You should follow your own words. 





tazzygirl -> RE: Black Repub Ken Barnes Wakes Up... (6/15/2011 1:15:04 PM)

What makes Code Pink liberal?




MasterSlaveLA -> RE: Black Repub Ken Barnes Wakes Up... (6/15/2011 1:18:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Your posts show us nothing more than we already know, other than you cant tell the difference between progressives and democrats.


Ahem...

"Today, most progressive politicians in the United States associate with the Democratic Party or the Green Party of the United States."

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivism#United_States


Same as they've always been... radical Libs/Dems who want to "spread the wealth" by stealing other people's money --  like for saaaaaaaaaaaaaaay... free medical education?!! [8|]





imperatrixx -> RE: Black Repub Ken Barnes Wakes Up... (6/15/2011 1:18:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

What makes Code Pink liberal?


Code Pink describes itself as "a women-initiated grassroots peace and social justice movement working to end the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, stop new wars, and redirect our resources into healthcare, education, green jobs and other life-affirming activities."




MasterSlaveLA -> RE: Black Repub Ken Barnes Wakes Up... (6/15/2011 1:19:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

What makes Code Pink liberal?


What makes Code Pink CONSERVATIVE in ANY way?!!  Do tell.

[8|]  Good GAWD?!!





tazzygirl -> RE: Black Repub Ken Barnes Wakes Up... (6/15/2011 1:21:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: imperatrixx


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

What makes Code Pink liberal?


Code Pink describes itself as "a women-initiated grassroots peace and social justice movement working to end the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, stop new wars, and redirect our resources into healthcare, education, green jobs and other life-affirming activities."


Yes, I read that too. Does that mean conversative women dont want the same thing?




mnottertail -> RE: Black Repub Ken Barnes Wakes Up... (6/15/2011 1:21:44 PM)

We would be loathe to accuse conservatives of any sort of a social agenda let alone a vigourous one, nowadays.





tazzygirl -> RE: Black Repub Ken Barnes Wakes Up... (6/15/2011 1:22:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

What makes Code Pink liberal?


What makes Code Pink CONSERVATIVE in ANY way?!!  Do tell.

[8|]  Good GAWD?!!




I asked you what made it liberal.




juliaoceania -> RE: Black Repub Ken Barnes Wakes Up... (6/15/2011 1:25:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

Examples?



Hmmm... let's see... your silly premise that those people (at a Code Pink sponsored rally) are not "Liberals"?!!

Talk about desperate?!! [8|]





I am positive, as someone who has went to such rallies, that they are not all liberals... some people show up just to agitate




MasterSlaveLA -> RE: Black Repub Ken Barnes Wakes Up... (6/15/2011 1:29:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl



Uh Oh... GASP... it appears... (drum roll)... everybody (but Tazzy) seems to understand "Code Pink" is a "Liberal Group"?!!  What a fucking shocker?!!  Oh my goodness noooooooooo... say it isn't soooooooooooo ---> http://tinyurl.com/5uw6ko9

[8|] Good GAWD?!!







juliaoceania -> RE: Black Repub Ken Barnes Wakes Up... (6/15/2011 1:30:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl



Uh Oh... GASP... it appears... (drum roll)... everybody (but Tazzy) seems to understand "Code Pink" is a "Liberal Group"?!!  What a fucking shocker?!!  Oh my goodness noooooooooo... say it isn't soooooooooooo ---> http://tinyurl.com/5uw6ko9

[8|] Good GAWD?!!






She poses a valid point, don't conservative women care about peace, justice, and education?




MasterSlaveLA -> RE: Black Repub Ken Barnes Wakes Up... (6/15/2011 1:33:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

I am positive, as someone who has went to such rallies, that they are not all liberals... some people show up just to agitate



Hmmm... sooooooooo then would you extend that SAME thinking to Tea Party events?!!  That maybe some "show up just to agitate"?!!  BTW... there were more than "some" -- so nice try, but no cigar.





imperatrixx -> RE: Black Repub Ken Barnes Wakes Up... (6/15/2011 1:34:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Code Pink describes itself as "a women-initiated grassroots peace and social justice movement working to end the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, stop new wars, and redirect our resources into healthcare, education, green jobs and other life-affirming activities."


Yes, I read that too. Does that mean conversative women dont want the same thing?


Generally speaking, no, conservatives don't make much effort to redirect "our resources" (aka public tax dollars) into things like healthcare and public school education...they seem to be against public healthcare and want to cut teachers salaries and bargaining rights. And I'm not personally familiar with any conservative politicians who were elected based on their pro-green environmental stance.




tazzygirl -> RE: Black Repub Ken Barnes Wakes Up... (6/15/2011 1:36:29 PM)

Code Pink describes itself as "a women-initiated grassroots peace and social justice movement working to end the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, stop new wars, and redirect our resources into healthcare, education, green jobs and other life-affirming activities."

It amazes me that a grass roots movement must be liberal.... Tea Party
Women initiated.... only liberal woman can initiate anything?
Peace and social justice... against, only a liberal belief.
Wanting to end the wars... surely only liberals want to end the wars...

This was prompted by a survey conducted by the Afghanistan Study Group, which found that conservatives, including self-described "Tea Party Supporters", are well on the path to opposing the war outright:
Conservatives and Tea Party supporters are worried about the costs of the war in Afghanistan. 71% of conservatives overall, and 67% of conservative Tea Party supporters, indicate worry that the costs will make it more difficult for the United States to reduce the deficit this year and balance the federal budget by the end of this decade. Significant percentages of conservative men (67%) and women (75%) indicate concern about the costs of the war as do conservatives in all age groups. Those in active duty military or veteran households are as worried about the costs of the war (69%) as those in non-military households (72%). 61% of conservatives who believe the war has been worth fighting are worried about the current level of costs.

Two-thirds of conservatives support a reduction in troop levels in Afghanistan. When given a choice between three options, 66% believe we can either reduce the troop levels in Afghanistan, but continue to fight the war effectively (39%) or think we should leave Afghanistan all together, as soon as possible (27%). Just 24% of conservatives believe we should continue to provide the current level of troops to properly execute the war. 64% of Tea Party supporters think we should either reduce troop levels (37%) or leave Afghanistan (27%) while 28% support maintaining current troop levels. Among conservatives who don't identify with the Tea Party movement, 70% want a reduction (43%) or elimination (27%) of troops while only 18% favoring continuation of the current level.


redirect our resources into healthcare, education, green jobs and other life-affirming activities... of course only liberals want these things as well.

Again, I ask, what makes this a "liberal" movement?




MasterSlaveLA -> RE: Black Repub Ken Barnes Wakes Up... (6/15/2011 1:38:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

...don't conservative women care about peace, justice, and education?



Yes... but not at the expense of OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY (spreading the wealth)... or SIDING WITH TERRORISTS (like Hamas)... or CALLING OUR PRESIDENT A WAR CRIMINAL, etc.

Clear enough for ya?!!




imperatrixx -> RE: Black Repub Ken Barnes Wakes Up... (6/15/2011 1:39:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
redirect our resources into healthcare, education, green jobs and other life-affirming activities... of course only liberals want these things as well.

Again, I ask, what makes this a "liberal" movement?


The part about "redirecting our resources."

I'm sure conservatives want healthcare, education, green jobs (maybe) and peace, but I'm not too sure they want to redirect public tax dollars to any of those causes.




MasterSlaveLA -> RE: Black Repub Ken Barnes Wakes Up... (6/15/2011 1:42:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: imperatrixx

I'm sure conservatives want healthcare, education, green jobs (maybe) and peace, but I'm not too sure they want to redirect public tax dollars to any of those causes.


Same goals... different means of getting there. [:)]

I would also note, but for hard left/right partisans, most people view the issues differently.  I, for example, am pro-choice, but also believe in smaller government.  Most don't view things down party lines.






imperatrixx -> RE: Black Repub Ken Barnes Wakes Up... (6/15/2011 1:45:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA

Same goals... different means of getting there. [:)]



Pretty much.




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