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RE: Sexxxaaaay - 6/17/2011 6:27:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		yep that's another good one -- i think my favorite thing about her is her hipwork; she has great articulations and shimmies, but without THROWING it all at you. =p
hipwork is another thing i feel is slowly being lost in tribal fusion. =p


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RE: Sexxxaaaay - 6/17/2011 6:34:03 PM   
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yep that's another good one -- i think my favorite thing about her is her hipwork; she has great articulations and shimmies, but without THROWING it all at you. =p
hipwork is another thing i feel is slowly being lost in tribal fusion. =p


Yes her movements are much more subtle and delicate and trust me I'm diggin the hipwork.

I like the personality she's displaying in her movements as well. She's playful and fun. I'm gonna check out her channel.

Wow, check that first dance out. Beautiful.
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=OrientalDancerSamia&annotation_id=annotation_788756&feature=iv


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RE: Sexxxaaaay - 6/17/2011 6:38:26 PM   
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you may enjoy this drum solo by Aziza as well; i love how much her personality shines through.
personality and interacting with the audience are things that cabaret and traditional styles really have held onto; i love that about them. tribal doesn't have those qualities quite as much because that's a dance that just seems to be more for the dancers themselves.
but with traditional styles, many dancers are humorous, coquettish, cute, and they really play it up for audiences which is all part of the fun. ^_^


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RE: Sexxxaaaay - 6/17/2011 6:46:14 PM   
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94bNNMBL_FU

you may enjoy this drum solo by Aziza as well; i love how much her personality shines through.
personality and interacting with the audience are things that cabaret and traditional styles really have held onto; i love that about them. tribal doesn't have those qualities quite as much because that's a dance that just seems to be more for the dancers themselves.
but with traditional styles, many dancers are humorous, coquettish, cute, and they really play it up for audiences which is all part of the fun. ^_^


That was nice but I think I like Samia's style better. Edit: I think it's because she's more expressive with her whole body.

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RE: Sexxxaaaay - 6/17/2011 6:54:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		yep, i love her style ^_^ she does cute little shoulder accents and is always smiling or making some facial expression to go with what she's doing. Samia is definitely one of my favorites, too. ^_^ 

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RE: Sexxxaaaay - 6/17/2011 6:54:46 PM   
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RE: Sexxxaaaay - 6/17/2011 6:58:11 PM   
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yep, i love her style ^_^ she does cute little shoulder accents and is always smiling or making some facial expression to go with what she's doing. Samia is definitely one of my favorites, too. ^_^ 

Thanks for contributing, Lilly. Now if you'd say you're going to take the vid of you dancing and post it for us to see..that would finish a good night off.


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RE: Sexxxaaaay - 6/17/2011 6:58:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		to be fair, polynesian dances and belly dance have similar moves, but they shouldn't be considered the same thing. polynesian dance has a pretty in depth history that's totally separate from belly dance. 

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RE: Sexxxaaaay - 6/17/2011 7:00:53 PM   
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yep, i love her style ^_^ she does cute little shoulder accents and is always smiling or making some facial expression to go with what she's doing. Samia is definitely one of my favorites, too. ^_^ 

Thanks for contributing, Lilly. Now if you'd say you're going to take the vid of you dancing and post it for us to see..that would finish a good night off.



no worries! i can seriously talk about dancing for hours on end. =p so this has been fun!
posting a video to the general CM populace would probably make me nervous (belly dancers deal with a lot of crap; i was once followed to my car by three guys and some of my dancerpals overheard them say that they planned to attack me -- we don't dance a particular festival anymore because of events like this), but i might share one if particular people are interested. =p


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RE: Sexxxaaaay - 6/17/2011 7:03:56 PM   
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but i might share one if particular people are interested. =p

Absolutely we are we are!

I'm being a bit cheeky here hun. If you don't want to I surely don't want to pressure you.


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RE: Sexxxaaaay - 6/17/2011 7:11:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		hahaha okay, i'll keep it in mind if i get a good video in a form i can send via PM =p 

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RE: Sexxxaaaay - 6/17/2011 7:12:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've enjoyed talking with you about dance.I don't get out and do it as much as I used to but it's still something I'm passionate inside about. But boy did I do it at one time. Every weekend and sometimes during the weekdays for 6, 7, or more hours at a time. I couldn't get enough of it during my earlier years.

Have a good night.


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RE: Sexxxaaaay - 6/17/2011 7:13:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		that's so cool ^_^ while there are a lot of male dancers, i haven't really gotten to hang out with any; i'd love to though. ^_^
it's been nice yammering with you, too! always nice to talk to someone who is also a dance maniac. ^_^


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RE: Sexxxaaaay - 6/18/2011 6:47:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		Can't say I've ever been inclined to take up belly dancing but I do love to watch it. My love of dance came out at a Rave event every Saturday and then some for around 2 years and many other avenues prior to that.


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RE: Sexxxaaaay - 6/18/2011 7:41:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		OOHH okay, i get what you're saying -- dancing of any type is fun. ^_^ we have a really great dance club that also happens to be a gay club, and i've had WAY more fun there than i've had at most "straight" places i've been to. =p the last time i went was after a show so i still had some costume stuff on, and this older guy must've reeeeally loved the costume stuff; he was my unofficial dance partner the whole time. super fun!

here are two more great videos of Sadie (the second one is the one i was trying to find yesterday =p)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiXwlae0FLA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDlS8bCXG30&feature=related




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RE: Sexxxaaaay - 6/18/2011 7:51:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		Can you explain your attraction to belly dancing?
I find most of it too repetitive (although I dont mind some of the vids you posted of Samia since she has her own individual interpretation). Guess I would rather learn to pole dance and super hot lap dance.

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RE: Sexxxaaaay - 6/18/2011 8:14:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		you tend to get more repetition in performances that are geared more towards american audiences, or choreographies by american dancers. americans tend to go for symmetrical performances -- hip bump on the left, followed by an "obligatory" hip bump on the right. do combo 1 leading to the left, then repeat combo 1, leading to the right. traditional or native dancers are generally less repetitive.it's usually a difference of translation across cultures and traditions.


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RE: Sexxxaaaay - 6/18/2011 8:44:13 AM   
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Can you explain your attraction to belly dancing?

If I were going straight for the "Sex" in a dance I'd prefer pole dancing/grinding lap dances and so on. As "out there" as I am I prefer more subtle approaches. Samia is a wonderful example of what I mean. She has beauty, grace, playfulness all being displayed with her expressive dance.

The dance in itself is wonderful to watch, combine that with all of that above and it's hard to pass over.
Lap dances are in your face sex for the most part..not that having a woman upside down with her legs spread eagle isn't attractive or anything..it's just that I'd prefer a much more subdued style of offering.


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RE: Sexxxaaaay - 6/18/2011 9:07:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		that's one of the misconceptions about belly dance and the people who like it/do it -- it's somehow always about sex.
pole dancing is fun, but not in the same way belly dance is.

watch some videos of tito seif; a male dancer from cairo -- he's got excellent interpretation, and technical skill, and he's often very humorous. but he's male, doesn't generally wear revealing costumes (say like Ozgen, the fairly famous turkish male dancer), and has a really familiar quality to him. he'll do a duet with a female dancer and do the same moves without looking feminine or sexual at all.

it totally CAN be sensual or as sexy as you want it to be (and i think one of the failings of tribal style is in trying to remove a lot of that), but that's not ALL it is.


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RE: Sexxxaaaay - 6/18/2011 9:18:51 AM   
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that's one of the misconceptions about belly dance and the people who like it/do it -- it's somehow always about sex.
pole dancing is fun, but not in the same way belly dance is.

watch some videos of tito seif; a male dancer from cairo -- he's got excellent interpretation, and technical skill, and he's often very humorous. but he's male, doesn't generally wear revealing costumes (say like Ozgen, the fairly famous turkish male dancer), and has a really familiar quality to him. he'll do a duet with a female dancer and do the same moves without looking feminine or sexual at all.

it totally CAN be sensual or as sexy as you want it to be (and i think one of the failings of tribal style is in trying to remove a lot of that), but that's not ALL it is.


I agree, it's not all about sex. I enjoy the dance in and of itself. I even enjoyed watching the vids of the men dancing. It does take, as with all types of taught dances, technique. I'm impressed with the amount of control they have over their bodies.

Dancing is deeper than sex but I'd be lying if I said I didn't get a little excited by Samia and Sadie while watching them perform. Not in a crude way, just appreciative of their beauty and grace.


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