aromanholiday
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I just don't see what I call M/s discussed much there or on Collarme, and when it is discussed, it tends to upset people and inflammatory words are used. That's fine with me, it's a minority interest anyway and always has been. I just find it interesting that peoples' interest in really being masters or really being slaves, and completely fulfilling the archetypes (or the historical examples) seems to be flagging as the overall group of people interested in BDSM grows. Again, trends in ideas and interests never go on forever, and this one may reverse someday, but I can't predict when or how that will happen.
Yes, who would do this and completely fufill the archetype? I think you'll find that some of us (*holds hand up*).......just don't care. We have it all already.
We have been living it for years and years............. the reality of it is far more absorbing.
So what do YOU call M/s?
agirl
I'm a bit confused by the wording of your first question ("Yes, who would do this and completely fulfill the archetype?") as you don't seem to be actually agreeing with anything I said, but I can certainly answer it.
As I said above, I believe that fulfilling the archetypes as completely as possible is the reality of the master-slave relationships I have had experience with and aspire to. Understanding the archetypes to their fullest and discussing them has always added depth and richness to my experience as a slave. I'm just not a "don't think it, just do it" type. It's never been my style--it creeps me out, in fact, to live an unexamined life. In the past, I've observed that those who don't ever think about mastery or slavery and "just do it" often end up doing something entirely different from what they claim to be doing. This ship doesn't steer itself. Constant slight but intelligent "course corrections" are always needed, and in order to do those correctly, you need, at very least, a polestar. An archetype (in the Jungian sense of that word, always) can be such a a polestar. A person who is the living embodiment of such an archetype is, of course, far more accurate. (Such people exist, obviously, or I wouldn't be mentioning them in this post.)
Additionally, I've found that thinking about what I do deeply enhances the experience for me. Not thinking about it causes me to not appreciate or even comprehend some of the most delightful nuances of my experience. I totally agree with you, reality can be utterly and (and sometimes quite mindlessly) absorbing; but I personally find that digesting that reality with contemplation and understanding to be sublime, like adding a delicious wine to your simple "meat-and-potatoes" meal. It's one of the things I enjoy most about living this way, and, over the decades, it has enhanced my understanding of past experiences and helped me to wisely choose future actions.
When you say "we have been living it for years and years," it tells me nothing. It's empty. No information, except perhaps the implication that you want to keep both your lifestyle and and your ideas about it extremely private. That's fine, to each his own. But, as this is a discussion board, I prefer, whenever the atmosphere isn't too hostile, to discuss with others what I have directly and specifically experienced in living the way I do and, even more, what I have learned from that experience.
What do _I_ call M/s? (grins at your "YOU"--my, my, I didn't realize I was that important to you,  .)
As I believe I said earlier in this thread, I am on deadline, lol, and you just asked the ten-thousand-page essay question. I know you probably didn't mean it, but this question also implies that I haven't spoken out in great detail on this subject at least 20 times before (truthfully, I expect it's more like 120 times). If you are really interested, then all of it--aside from a few minor ideas I reserve as I don't really think will ever be ready for "Collarme Prime Time" (smile)--is in my brief posting history. I welcome anyone interested in what I call a master-slave relationship to have a thorough look at it.
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