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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/6/2011 10:12:40 PM

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I have reinterated what i knew mostly all along, with a few exceptions.
See a doctor (check)
take care of me first (majorly hard thing to do)
takes those i love with me to this new doctor and have him explain exactly what is going on.....
Blindness can be a symptom.
That it is unreal how many chronic suffering people on here.
that many people assume i dont put my kids on top of my list, when actually they are incorrectly on top instead of me.
and suprisingly no one argued that medical marijuana may be a big relief.

I'm really glad you've seen your doctor about this, and that you plan on having him explain things to your family :)

I meant mostly what you were doing about the problem you asked in your OP - about how the house is overwhelming and you're unable to find the energy to clean it yourself.

Has your master's adult daughter been doing more work around the house?
Has your master himself been doing more work around the house?
Have your kids gotten extra chores that they're doing?
Has your doctor put you on any new meds or new routine that makes it easier for you to do it yourself?

I think it's great that you're "taking care of you first" but platitudes aside, you had a specific problem in your OP, and you got a lot of good advice about how you can fix that problem, and I'm just wondering whose advice you ended up taking and how it worked out.

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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/6/2011 10:18:38 PM

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Master's daughter and her boyfriend have been gone for over two weeks
Master has helped a great deal in the week or so, taking kids places, helping with cooking etc
kids know now i am serious when i tell them to do something, not yet jumping up and doing it but its a work in progress that i dont plan on backing down on
my doctor was the first visit, filled with discussion, no changes yet...wating for all those test results.. whhoo hooo

ps who in the world can sleep with all the wires on?

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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/7/2011 12:12:03 AM

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That's really great :) I'm happy for you. Keep on those kids, consistency is key ;) You'll have them whipped into shape in no time.

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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/7/2011 3:14:30 AM

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Art has really been helping out alot, and i am so grateful for that.

"Art" is the reason you started this thread. "Art" is the reason you came here with so much on your plate. "Art" is the reason you sometimes feel you'd be better off living somewhere else. "Art" is the peevish lad who thinks his pets (pet peeves, get it?) come ahead of everything and everyone else. "Art" is the fellow who says he's not a bad guy because it isn't as if he ever "beat her too little" (and no, Freud isn't amused). "Art" is the reason some people put the responsiblity on you for your situation, because you stay there.

Somehow I don't think "Art" is "helping."

K.

Try and focus on what tam is saying and not what you want her to say. Repeating the same tripe over and over does not make it any truer or smell any better.

Let's take the latest tripe.

Everyone is aware why tam started this thread and it was not some cry for help to save her from her evil Master. You've twisted the OP to slam her master.

She does not say "Art" is the reason she sometimes feels she'd be better off living somewhere else. You made that up. You twisted it to slam her master. Instead, when tammy was in her own home she felt no obligation to make sure the house was clean while she was down since she was the only one to see it. Here is what she actually said...
"It has actually gotten to the point where i felt the best place for us to be in back in our own home, just so the freaking dishes could be ignored for a day..... dunno but do know i now have a full fledged migraine and i have to take the kids to the ballpark, just freaking dandy!

Continuing, the only reference to pet peeves is leaving dishes in the sink over night. What, this is a bad thing? Maybe in your house but how you translate that into "Art is the peevish lad who thinks his pets (pet peeves, get it?) come ahead of everything and everyone else" is creativity at it's worse. You've twisted it to slam her master.

"Art" is the fellow who says he's not a bad guy because it isn't as if he ever "beat her too little" (and no, Freud isn't amused). "
The original context is discussing the things she might normally leave me for that I don't go near or do or want to do. The reference to "beat her too little" relates to making her feel unloved by pulling back on our Sexual Magic for no good reason. You've twisted it to slam her master.

"Art" is the reason some people put the responsibility on you for your situation, because you stay there.
Clever. So hard argue with such clear logic and wit. Tam is stronger than you let on and perfectly capable of leaving if she thought is was best. If some people have decided based on a few pages containing very little actual information that she should make a life changing decision then I'm sure tam will give it the consideration she thinks it deserves.

You are so transparent Mr. Hot Shot Gorean. You are not here to help Tam unless it requires leaving me and your focus clearly is on me since you refer to me more than her in your helpful posts.

I'm posting this because tam won't. She considers you a pest and sees what you are attempting to do. According to your profile you're recent experience in home management and supporting a family is limited to a cat and as much as I like cats, we have two, it is not the same. So pack it up, it's time to go back to Gor forum my lad, find your own woman and quit stalking tam.

tripe [ trīp ]
stomach lining of cow or sheep: the stomach lining of a ruminant such as a cow or sheep, used as food
nonsense: something absurd, untrue, or worthless
Synonyms: rubbish, nonsense, garbage, drivel, rot, claptrap, twaddle, trash

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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/7/2011 9:48:12 AM

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According to your profile you're recent experience in home management and supporting a family is limited to a cat and as much as I like cats, we have two, it is not the same.

OK, look. I'm not a Gorean, and I don't like Kirata in the least, so I'm not biased in his favour here. My experience in home management is limited to running/assisting in running two homes that include 4 cats, 3 full adults, 2 adult kids, and two other kids with developmental disabilities. I do all this while dealing with being unemployed, diabetic, and schizophrenic. So my credentials in this sort of matter are superb, to say the least.

Yes, you are a BIG part of the problem. Firstly because you "help" in the wrong ways. yes its great that you pitch in now and then, it really is. But she needs an entire rewrite of the expectations. The woman has several serious medical issues going on at once, and has too much on her plate. And yet rather than simply taking her to a doctor (don't give me that "we have an appointment" crap, you're in the fucking USA and you don't have to wait. Go to another doctor if the first is too slow) you let things ride until in desperation she turns to us...a bunch of pervs online. YOU should have taken care of this a long time ago. You call yourself her Master? Well that makes you responsible for her well-being, and you've clearly been lax, to say the least, in that aspect of your duties.

This glaringly obvious fact, coupled with other things that both she and you have said is the basis of the belief expressed by many that you are the main problem here. You have allowed your house to slip out of control to the point that your girl has turned to unqualified strangers for help. It took shaming you on a kink forum to get you to get off your ass and start doing what you should have done a long time ago.

Get her the medical attention she needs immediately.
Get her the full time help she needs to keep the house. This means you and ALL the other members of the household take over the bulk of the housework on a more or less permanent basis, not just pitch in, but take the jobs off her hands altogether until her condition improves. If the young kids don't want to, well too damned bad, take away their privileges and spending money until they do. Your daughter and her boyfriend need to do their share as well, not just now and then, and them flitting off for days or weeks at a time and then showing back up when it suits them is unacceptable. If they are going to live there, they need to be available when they are needed.

That's what you need to do, that's what you two have been told to do for pages now. We've heard all the excuses, and all the waffling. Enough is enough. You've enjoyed all the benefits of having a slave, well the bill is due, now you get to suffer the inconveniences of such ownership. Man up and BE the Master you've been playing at being. Take charge and FIX the damned problem. This thread has been going for 10 days now, and you've done nothing. Ten days ago your woman went public with a plea for help and you're still trying to defend yourself. It doesn't matter how much or how little you have been doing, it's not enough. Take charge of the situation and make certain that Tammy gets the help she needs. All the help...medical, professional, emotional, physical, mental, and whatever else I may have left out.

That's your job, do it! If you can't or won't, then get the hell out of the picture so she can.

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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/7/2011 10:03:56 AM

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Go Bob!!!!!

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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/7/2011 10:32:15 AM

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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/7/2011 10:33:58 AM

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Je t'adore, Bob!!!

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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/7/2011 11:20:14 AM

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Loving the Bob!

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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/7/2011 11:26:52 AM

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Continuing, the only reference to pet peeves is leaving dishes in the sink over night. What, this is a bad thing?

Not a bad thing at all. If the dishes in the sink at night bother you so much, then YOU do them.

Simple, right?

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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/7/2011 2:42:45 PM

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Try and focus on what tam is saying and not what you want her to say.

Actually, my post reflected exactly what Tammy has been telling us, absent only her scratching to cover it up.

As for what I think, frankly, I think both of your lives would feel empty without each other. You both love the drama. And you both love taking it onto the stage. This dog and pony show has been going on for years. You both feed on it. And neither of you wants to change anything. Though you pretend you'd like the audience to be a little more appreciative and stop picking apart the fucking idiocy of the script, in the end that just drives you closer together. And maybe that's really the purpose of it all, eh?

Well hey, yanno, glad we could help.

K.

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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/7/2011 2:44:47 PM

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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/7/2011 2:45:21 PM

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*applauds K*

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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/7/2011 3:15:33 PM

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Continuing, the only reference to pet peeves is leaving dishes in the sink over night. What, this is a bad thing?

You mean to say, this entire 19 page fiasco, could have been avoided, for the price of a dishwasher? For less then 200.00, and if you know how to shop, less then 150.00? Seems like an easy, inexpensive fix.

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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/7/2011 3:17:41 PM

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Continuing, the only reference to pet peeves is leaving dishes in the sink over night. What, this is a bad thing?

You mean to say, this entire 19 page fiasco, could have been avoided, for the price of a dishwasher? For less then 200.00, and if you know how to shop, less then 150.00? Seems like an easy, inexpensive fix.

rofl

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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/7/2011 3:19:27 PM

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In my world, if something bothers you, you are free to take care of it yourself. In other words, if the dishes in the sink overnight bothers you, Art, wash the fuckers yourownself!!!

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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/7/2011 3:22:12 PM

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gaed forbid.. him is da MAZTER!!

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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/7/2011 3:42:12 PM

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Oh christ on a cracker, what the fuck was I thinkin???

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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/7/2011 3:53:55 PM

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Ok, a question for those dealing with Fibro.....what comes first? Does depression trigger an attack, or do the attacks trigger depression? There isn't a whole lot on the subject that I can find via the internet as to whether depression is a bi product, or cause.

According to here: http://www.webmd.com/depression/news/20031024/fibromyalgia-isnt-depression

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Depression doesn't cause the pain of fibromyalgia, a new study shows. But clinical depression can deepen a fibromyalgia patient's experience of pain.

In some links, I think I read it once on the mayo clinic page, I read that some people with fibromyalgia can become depressed from it, which makes sense to me, cause it can be a bitch at times how it makes life harder with lack of energy, temporary disabling affects and the pain.

However, just cause it can lead to depression, doesn't mean it has to. I don't have depression and I think a lot also has to do with it, amongst other aspects, at what age you get it. I have it since childhood, just haven't had a name for it until 2008 where it worsened due to work and uni stress....for me it was "normal" to be in pain about 300 days a year. I named it my "phantom"...meaning there is a phantom in my body which wonders around and annoys me daily in a different area of the body...

As I got it as a child (IMO either from my car accident when I was hit by a car the first time aged 8 or due to PTSD from child hood stuff) it simply was normal to me...as often kids deal with such things differently as women in their 50s (as example).

Meaning, when you don't really remember it to be any different, then why "suffer" from it and getting depressed from it...you believe that it is normal to end up in pain when you get tired (one example)...only about 10 years ago someone told me that this is actually not normal...

However, when you get it at a later stage then you might be more upset about the pain and the tiredness as you know it isn't normal...and then IMO it is more likely to affect you psychologically...

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RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 - 7/7/2011 4:10:53 PM

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"If you suffer from fibromyalgia you most likely have one of the most common symptoms, fibromyalgia swelling. Swelling and inflammation very often are the first symptoms a person notices when there is a fibromyalgia diagnosis. Fibromyalgia swelling can sometimes be hard to recognize since it often takes on the appearance of arthritis. The swelling can occur at anytime and just about any place on your body. It can last a short period of time, or indefinitely. Let's take a closer look to better understand fibromyalgia swelling."
Fibromyalgia swelling can occur just about anywhere on the body, but is most often found on the hands and the feet. Many sufferers do report that the swelling from the feet will often extend upward to their lower legs. Some people even report that the swelling will just be on some of their toes. The swelling can appear and disappear without warning, lasting just a few hours, to days or weeks at a time. Some sufferers even report that their feet will swell so large that they cannot even get into a pair of shoes. If you experience this swelling there are some proactive things you can do that may help.

Some people believe that the Swelling and inflammation due to fibromyalgia can be directly linked to stress. Therefore, if you suffer from this swelling you will want to do everything you can to avoid or greatly reduce stress in your life. Getting plenty of rest may also be helpful.

You have just learned how fibromyalgia swelling can be very common for those suffering from this disease. Even though there is no definite cause or cure for the swelling, there is some hope that lifestyle changes can help control it. Making sure your lifestyle includes rest, relaxation and low levels of stress can keep swelling from reoccurring

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I wasn't aware of that and - for a change - I thank you for that information, as I had some rather shocking swelling on my left foot some evenings last month...which I linked to my gained weight since my uni ended rather stressful as well as my job search afterwards, which was detrimental for my weight (thankfully I am finally relaxed enough again to get back on track about that).

HOWEVER if there would be a chance I would nevertheless get it checked out if I would be you (depending on the amount and regularity of swellings) cause whilst it CAN be from the fibro IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE from that....meaning, you might not know in case there is another underlying health issue which could cause it.

Since about two weeks it stopped after it occured 2-3 evenings, so I am relaxed about it again, but if it would have occured very often I would have let it get checked out, to make sure to remain on the safe side.

LAST BUT NOT LEAST I don't know about your climate where you are living, but what can help to improve your pain level is to take a week break ON YOUR OWN in an area with warm climate (if possible).

2009 I was about to go to the GP to let increase my 25mg dosis to a higher dosis or to a different medication as I reached the stage that I was not even able to sleep pain free 4 hours at night...but then I went on holiday at first before the planned trip to the GP and that week in tenerife worked wonders.

Since then I never had the need to ask for an increase or change of medication as my fibro improved from that warm climate itself.

Also now that I moved back home I am able again to sleep pain free and so rarely use the meds anymore (also don't have much left right now as I still need to wait to be injured healthwise again over here which seems to take a while with the speed of the job centre over here).

However, I am glad that the climate here changed it back to its old stage again where I was ok to live with it, mainly without meds.

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