Real0ne
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I gave you the rules and standing on a soap box screaming you are right and I am wrong without paramount rules is no different than claiming 5+2 = 52.
Do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars. plonk.
The problem you run into here is "WHO OR WHAT" were the States "presumably" representing "Themselves", the "people", the "People"? WHO?
If they were representing the "Candid" "People" then the supreme court decision is in fact correct and we in fact do have 51 fully functional [as seen today] feudal sovereignty's, the 50 local sovereignty's all nicely tucked under the One "Foreign" Sovereignty [da big cheese] that the local sovereignty's allow to be "resident" on American soil.
If as a government you wanted to control a country as rulers and leaders rather than administer the "people's" business the Bill of Rights is the first thing that had to go!
This is purported to be officially correct punctuation, seems da guv must have gotten a lot of flaq that they thought it prudent to state that on the site.
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The Bill of Rights: A Transcription The Preamble to The Bill of Rights Congress of the United States begun and held at the City of New-York, on Wednesday the fourth of March, one thousand seven hundred and eighty nine.
THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution. [Like tazering people busting down their doors and shooting them in their own home all those beneficint ends they do to people now days.]
RESOLVED by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, two thirds of both Houses concurring, that the following Articles be proposed to the Legislatures of the several States, as amendments to the Constitution of the United States, all, or any of which Articles, when ratified by three fourths of the said Legislatures, to be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of the said Constitution; viz.
ARTICLES in addition to, and Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America, proposed by Congress, and ratified by the Legislatures of the several States, pursuant to the fifth Article of the original Constitution.
Note: The following text is a transcription of the first ten amendments to the Constitution in their original form. These amendments were ratified December 15, 1791, and form what is known as the "Bill of Rights."
Amendment I Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Amendment II A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Amendment III No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.
Amendment IV The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Amendment V No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; [<-common law of the land NOT the civil/commercial shit forced upon us by the 14th] nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Amendment VI In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State [so according to the supremie creamie pies the State then has the "Right" to demand a jury trial by jurors of the State that is on trial. Way to fucking go creamie supremie Magoo youve done it again! Yeh Bubba I want a jusry of my family to judge me too!] and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; [want to have fun go into court and demand to know the nature and cause of the accusation! LOL ] to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel [ that does not mean a BAR Fly either ] for his defence.
Amendment VII In Suits at common law, [sorry no can have, abolished!] where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law. [and that is why, they cannot fuck you with this in place]
Amendment VIII Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted. [Waterboarding? How about 17yo, had one drink at a party and was fined 250 bucks for it. ]
Amendment IX The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. [NOT they no longer exist, they are all citizens now days, and they no longer have the authority to declare their rights as their rights have been converted by the 14th amendment to grants of permission by the States who own their vassal asses.]
Amendment X The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. Amendments 11-27
Note: The capitalization and punctuation in this version is from the enrolled original of the Joint Resolution of Congress proposing the Bill of Rights, which is on permanent display in the Rotunda of the National Archives Building, Washington, D.C.
As we can see here from the previously quoted SPIES case of the US Supreme Court:
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It was contended, however, in argument, that, "though originally the first ten amendments were adopted as limitations on federal power, yet, in so far as they secure and recognize fundamental rights—common-law rights—of the man, they make them privileges and immunities of the man as a citizen of the United States, and cannot now be abridged by a state under the fourteenth amendment. In other words, while the ten amendments as limitations on power only apply to the federal government, and not to the states, yet in so far as they declare or recognize rights of persons, these rights are theirs, as citizens of the United States, and the fourteenth amendment as to such 'rights limits state power, as the ten amendments had limited federal power." It is also contended that the provision of the
I believe that I have sufficiently proven the treason perpetuated not only by the sitting judges of the time who made the initial rulings but by all judges who have perpetrated this fraud upon the "people" at large severally and individually.
One need look no further than grammatical and syntactic use to see the fraud.
Now we have judges determining elections in direct violation of the procedure set forth in the constitution! Its nothing but a god damned piece of paper!
It can be seen that the people in the form of a jury had the final say on the law as the united states and its subsidiary states have no jurisdiction to review the case. NOPE! GONE!
< Message edited by Real0ne -- 7/16/2011 11:34:00 AM >
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