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RE: homeowners associations - 7/12/2011 7:48:40 PM   
LaTigresse


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Another thing that people need to consider when purchasing a house, especially if you are a do it yourselfer like I am. Always know what the local building codes are.

Where I live now, I could literally build another house on the property and not have to comply with any codes except those set by the state. In Cedar Rapids, where I moved from, we were not even supposed to replace the porch steps or build a garden fence without getting a permit and showing blue prints (money for the city) and then having it inspected to make sure it passed code.

Here I don't even think about it. When we built the garage, which is nearly as big and complex as the house, we did not have to get a permit or have it inspected.

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RE: homeowners associations - 7/12/2011 8:12:48 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

where I moved from, we were not even supposed to replace the porch steps or build a garden fence without getting a permit and showing blue prints (money for the city) and then having it inspected to make sure it passed code.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkE8jpPMuf8


guess you really dont own your property after all. LOL

Thats what I call FREEDOM!

LMAO

The city is protecting their interests in "their" rental unit.  thats what a title for your home is.

want the caourt cases?  LMAO





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RE: homeowners associations - 7/12/2011 8:35:49 PM   
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I own property in an HOA, several years ago the grumpy jerk across from me (with a creek in between our properties) started on me about my trees, claiming they were dangerous. I told him to f off, basically. Then he got himself elected to the Board of the HOA. He had a lawyer (which just happened to be the same lawyer for the HOA) to send me a threatening letter. I sent his lawyer a letter telling him to f off and that he didnt have a case. Then shortly after that, I happened to show up one day to find tree cutters just setting up to chop down my trees. I called the police and then I called the manager of the HOA and read him the riot act about this guy who was on the Board and trespassing and illegally cutting down my trees. I think the jerk sold his property & moved not too long after that.

The previous owners gave the jerk permission to cut the trees but the dumb f**ker sat on his hands and didnt cut them when he had the chance.

What really p*ssed me off was the HOA lawyer, imo that was conflict of interest to send me a threatening letter on non-HOA business (since imo as an HOA member the f*cker worked for me).


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RE: homeowners associations - 7/13/2011 5:40:07 AM   
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Some of the worst ones here in FL are the Condo Associations.  Old retired fucks with nothing to do get in charge and make everyone miserable.  This seems to happen a lot in smaller condos.  Many of the worst offenders are from New York and New Jersey. 

The beaches there in Cocoa Beach are no dogs allowed.  Some person who lived in the area would occasionally walk there do on that stretch of beach.  The "asshole" who was the President of the Association for that Condo would sit in the sea grass for hours with a pair of binoculars.  As soon as he saw the dog walking on the beach he would call the cops.  Funny part is by the time the cops got there the dog was always gone.  He would sit out there for hours at a time, days on end with those binoculars searching for a dog.

You can just imagine the kind of crap he tried to inflict on the other owners. 

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RE: homeowners associations - 7/13/2011 7:00:07 AM   
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Now I am reminded of an episode of Seinfeld...

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RE: homeowners associations - 7/13/2011 7:25:33 AM   
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One has to remember Condominium Associations and Home Owners Associations are governed by two different statutes and the content of those statutes very state by state. In addition Sunshine Law’s play a significant roll but of infinitely more importance are the Association Documents and Bylaws.

Prior to the Association taking over from the Developer the industry standard and State laws provide for a not for Profit Corporation being formed and the Association Documents along with Bylaws and Rules and Regulations registered in the city, county and State the Association is located in.

Purchasers are supplied with copied of these Documents and Certified Audited Financial Statements prior to purchasing; if they decide to buy a dwelling they agree to buying into the association along with all its current and future liabilities and assets. They also agree to be governed by current Association Documents including Bylaws Rules and Regulations.

During the first owners meeting the board is elected, however, at the annual owners meeting or any meeting called by over 80% of the owners any or all of the board members can be recalled and new elections held. The Documents can be rewritten by the legal firm representing the Association if the owners collectively determine the documents are not serving them in their best interest. Rules and regulations can be rewritten too and it only tales 20% of the owners to get it on the agenda.

In reference to assessments, the Finance Committee, along with the Building Committee, the Accountant and the Management Company, present to the board proposals. Those proposals are discussed at the general meeting and ruled on, unless of course emergency exists, in that case the board votes one way or the other and keep in mind board meets are required by law to have minutes and minutes are construed as Association Documents so are availed to all residents upon request.

Never lose sight of the fact the Association is owned by the owners, if there are things in the Documents Bylaws Rules or Regulations the owners collectively by 80 % or more want changed the Association Attorneys can re write the Documents at any time providing the changes are not in violation of Codes Restrictions or Sunshine or Condominium or HOA Laws.
I have built many Condominiums and HOA Housings Developments throughout Florida and I am always amazed when I hear owners complaining about the Board. Its their Association, they are responsible, the Board is simply elected residents who are capable of recall acting on their fellow residents behalf and most would much rather be fishing.



I sold property in FL in the mid 90's.  It's VERY different in different states.  During that time, I ran into Condo Associations and HOA's that worked well to maximize values and some that hurt values. (Actually explained to one elderly and venal president that "something that cannot be sold basically has no value" when she was repeatedly trying to block sales in 'her' complex.)
I also sold homes in coral Gables, FL which was dubbed "The City Anal Rententive" by a local newspaper.  You couldn't even paint a bathroom without having the color approved and getting a permit.  For that reason, a lot of folks would look look at an info sheet and say "Oh hell no, not there" like it was overtown or something.
If people don't want to buy a home in a certain area, it hurts property values in that area.

The company I now own has been developing in TN for over 40 years.  The HOA's we left behind all worked well..............initially.  The smaller ones can sometimes devolve into a clique driven monarchy.

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RE: homeowners associations - 7/13/2011 7:26:51 AM   
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uuuuuuuuuuueeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhh, Condiminiums?  I don use 'em.

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RE: homeowners associations - 7/13/2011 11:06:37 AM   
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I like that my mother's Lake Association and relative Beach Association have regs to keep gas motors out of the water and off the beach. (Smells better; quieter.)

I would not buy into a place that regulates what I could plant or what colors I could paint.

Caveat emptor.


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RE: homeowners associations - 7/13/2011 11:27:45 AM   
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Here's a question for those who hate "big government":


How do you feel about private homeowners' associations fining people for outdoor kissing and hanging out in their garages? How do you feel about homeowners being ineligible for a hearing? Would you now agree that in some cases, privitization can lead to less, rather than more freedom?


You'd be surprised how slashing all 4 tires on a vehicle can change someone's mind.


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RE: homeowners associations - 7/13/2011 12:40:59 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: flcouple2009

FR

Some of the worst ones here in FL are the Condo Associations.  Old retired fucks with nothing to do get in charge and make everyone miserable.  This seems to happen a lot in smaller condos.  Many of the worst offenders are from New York and New Jersey. 

The beaches there in Cocoa Beach are no dogs allowed. Some person who lived in the area would occasionally walk there do on that stretch of beach. The "asshole" who was the President of the Association for that Condo would sit in the sea grass for hours with a pair of binoculars. As soon as he saw the dog walking on the beach he would call the cops. Funny part is by the time the cops got there the dog was always gone. He would sit out there for hours at a time, days on end with those binoculars searching for a dog.

You can just imagine the kind of crap he tried to inflict on the other owners.


Thank you for giving me a great laugh and the image to go with it.
In the future when I hear the worlds "Homeowners Association", THIS is the memory
that will stick in my head!!



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RE: homeowners associations - 7/13/2011 1:13:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

uuuuuuuuuuueeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhh, Condiminiums?  I don use 'em.

Rocky Balboa



""Latex Condoms... I'd like to live in one of those." - Grandpa Simpson

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RE: homeowners associations - 7/13/2011 3:14:07 PM   
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FR

Some of the worst ones here in FL are the Condo Associations.  Old retired fucks with nothing to do get in charge and make everyone miserable.  This seems to happen a lot in smaller condos.  Many of the worst offenders are from New York and New Jersey. 

The beaches there in Cocoa Beach are no dogs allowed.  Some person who lived in the area would occasionally walk there do on that stretch of beach.  The "asshole" who was the President of the Association for that Condo would sit in the sea grass for hours with a pair of binoculars.  As soon as he saw the dog walking on the beach he would call the cops.  Funny part is by the time the cops got there the dog was always gone.  He would sit out there for hours at a time, days on end with those binoculars searching for a dog.

You can just imagine the kind of crap he tried to inflict on the other owners. 


When I first moved to Florida I had a nice sport truck that the HOA wouldn't allow so I had to rent a car and put my truck and motorcycle in storage.

In a way I can understand banning motorcycles because of the noise, but then they let the old folks drive around the place in ancient pieces of junk with mufflers dragging on the pavement.

In another place I lived in I was allowed to keep my truck there but it had to be kept in the garage.  I couldn't leave it in the driveway for even a short amount of time or someone would complain.  The motorcycle I could only take out the back exit, and even that wasn't supposed to be allowed there but I was a neighbor of the HOA president.

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