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RE: Daddy/Little Girl or Daughter - 7/16/2011 8:23:26 PM

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RE: Daddy/Little Girl or Daughter - 7/16/2011 8:53:30 PM

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I'm seeing it's a secret with allot of females. I'm not sure why, but it's been my experience to learn this. But I have come across girls that do not have this fantasy and think it's gross too. Far and few between though. And the fantasy role play is always like I described. The kinky sex talk. Daddy coming into your room at night, daddy reading you a bed time story, daddy giving you a bath........always an incest slant to it. Just get on fet and look around. There's all kinds of that stuff. daughters, mommys, daddys and daughter looking for sister.......

Hmm, well a person can't argue w/ someone else's actual experience. I, however, belong to more than one DD/lg group on Fet, and the vast majority of the members posting are squicked out by either Daddies or girls w/ incest fantasies. And, just because some might be looking for daughters/mommies/daddies/sisters, etc, it does NOT mean they all have incestuous fantasies. Also reading a bedtime story or giving your little a bath does NOT always mean sex with an incestuous fantasy attached.

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RE: Daddy/Little Girl or Daughter - 7/16/2011 10:22:45 PM

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Aynne is being realistic about it and even though I see and understand there are all kinds of definitions, meanings, lifestyles with this fetish, I tend to side with her based on my experiences with girls in all age groups and the feedback I get when talking and getting to know them. What blew me away are the 20ish year old girls that are into this. I had know Idea. I like dating younger girls so it obviously turns me on. Some of you might think what turns me on and what I like about this is sick and disgusting. but it's apart of what's going on out there right now in the dating scene when it pertains to this role play and fantasy. Allot of people are into this like Aynne suggested. I'm seeing it's a secret with allot of females. I'm not sure why, but it's been my experience to learn this. But I have come across girls that do not have this fantasy and think it's gross too. Far and few between though. And the fantasy role play is always like I described. The kinky sex talk. Daddy coming into your room at night, daddy reading you a bed time story, daddy giving you a bath........always an incest slant to it. Just get on fet and look around. There's all kinds of that stuff. daughters, mommys, daddys and daughter looking for sister.......

Don't assume that all women are harboring this fantasy. Quite a few of us would never in a million years be into this type of dynamic. Stop projecting.

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RE: Daddy/Little Girl or Daughter - 7/17/2011 6:44:02 AM

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He has a paternal overtone that I like very much. He's protective of those he loves. We both have grown daughters and he treats me as he does them, as though I'm an adult but still in need of guidance.

Age play does not include father/daughter, that would squick him no end. It does involve me playing 16, which was a difficult year for me so I get to do it over, and have it come out right this time. However he plays a professor to my school girl usually.

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RE: Daddy/Little Girl or Daughter - 7/17/2011 10:20:48 AM

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Ok. I'm just giving you guys a different spin on it from the dating side. I don't claim to be an expert. There is allot to be learned and I understand that. The deal is, I don't sugarcoat anything or try to place things in an intellectual manner. I'm your average blue collar working male, raised in an upper middle class family, no sexual abuse from my parents, a dad of two adults in thier 20's and a teen that is graduating highschool, have a healthy relationship with all three of my kids, married twice and ex-millitary. Sometimes, I generalize things a bit too much but i'm telling you guys that the incest slant to this fetish is alive and strong in all age groups. That's all i'm saying......

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Aynne is being realistic about it and even though I see and understand there are all kinds of definitions, meanings, lifestyles with this fetish, I tend to side with her based on my experiences with girls in all age groups and the feedback I get when talking and getting to know them. What blew me away are the 20ish year old girls that are into this. I had know Idea. I like dating younger girls so it obviously turns me on. Some of you might think what turns me on and what I like about this is sick and disgusting. but it's apart of what's going on out there right now in the dating scene when it pertains to this role play and fantasy. Allot of people are into this like Aynne suggested. I'm seeing it's a secret with allot of females. I'm not sure why, but it's been my experience to learn this. But I have come across girls that do not have this fantasy and think it's gross too. Far and few between though. And the fantasy role play is always like I described. The kinky sex talk. Daddy coming into your room at night, daddy reading you a bed time story, daddy giving you a bath........always an incest slant to it. Just get on fet and look around. There's all kinds of that stuff. daughters, mommys, daddys and daughter looking for sister.......

Don't assume that all women are harboring this fantasy. Quite a few of us would never in a million years be into this type of dynamic. Stop projecting.

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RE: Daddy/Little Girl or Daughter - 7/17/2011 10:32:17 AM

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I also want to put out there that the incest slant to this is not all what I'm about or am wanting in a relationship. All the input, articles and advice so far you guys have given me is Ideally where I would like to go.......just saying :)

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RE: Daddy/Little Girl or Daughter - 7/17/2011 10:36:28 AM

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Sometimes, I generalize things a bit too much but i'm telling you guys that the incest slant to this fetish is alive and strong in all age groups. That's all i'm saying......

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always an incest slant to it.

I'm not saying there are no Daddies or girls that are into the incest fantasy thing. What I am saying is, I do have a problem with that generalization that there is ALWAYS an incest slant to it. That's just not right. If you dig those fantasies, that's cool for you, but you don't have to add the the stigma DD/lg already has from a lot of people by claiming incorrectly that we are ALL into incest fantasies because we're NOT. Bleah!!

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RE: Daddy/Little Girl or Daughter - 7/17/2011 2:19:38 PM

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I typically avoid discussions like this because of all the "ew" "sick" "disgusting" "most are _____" remarks. It's just frustrating.

Here's my scoop. My Owner and Master is my Daddy. He calls me "little girl." I am NOT a little. I do not wear diapers. I do not behave baby-like. Daddy/little girl is representative of the nurturing and care-giving approach toward his ownership, and of my sweetness, softness and, at times, innocence with him. This is NOT role play. He is NOT a substitute of my father. I have never had incestual fantasies about my father. Daddy and I are sexual. Sometimes I'm his hot slutty bitch, other times I'm his sweet baby girl, other times I'm something in between, and so it goes. We are multi-dimensional, and whatever we express is what we happen to be feeling together at the time.

Daddy taking me and fucking me is no different than other people expressing themselves through puppy play, through an Owner/property dynamic, or through any other dynamic. It's a dynamic. It's a form of expression. What we do (BDSM, M/s, D/s, O/p, D/lg, XZY, LMNOP...) can be expressed through an infinite of ways, and there is always going to be someone who says "that's wrong" or "that's gross" or some other disparaging remark toward the way those in other relationships express themselves in it. That's just human nature, I suppose, but it does get tiring sometimes.

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RE: Daddy/Little Girl or Daughter - 7/17/2011 2:21:46 PM

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I'm not saying there are no Daddies or girls that are into the incest fantasy thing. What I am saying is, I do have a problem with that generalization that there is ALWAYS an incest slant to it. That's just not right. If you dig those fantasies, that's cool for you, but you don't have to add the the stigma DD/lg already has from a lot of people by claiming incorrectly that we are ALL into incest fantasies because we're NOT. Bleah!!

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In all the years I've been on CM, both in this name and a previous, that's an assessment that has always been and will always be made. Don't you know, we're all sick fucks who want to fuck our fathers behind our mother's backs.

Of course, no one ELSE on here is a sick fuck

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RE: Daddy/Little Girl or Daughter - 7/17/2011 2:29:46 PM

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My understanding of many Daddy/babygirl relationships is that the foundation has NOTHING to do with incest fantasies, and EVERYTHING to do with the type of emotional connection.

Daddy is strong, protective, nurturing, adoring, and someone you can always run to for help. In that sense, I feel the Daddy connection is at the cornerstone of many d/s relationships. It certainly is for mine.

No, I don't call him Daddy, or Sir, or Master, I call him by his first name. Our thinking is, we do not need to be constantly reminded that he is my emotional cornerstone -- it's just what IS.

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RE: Daddy/Little Girl or Daughter - 7/17/2011 4:43:53 PM

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I understand your point and I appologize for offending you and anyone else that is offended. But this is a message board right?? There will be and always will be people that bring things to these boards, such as myself, that may not necessarily side with everyones perspective or points of view. I appreciate you straightening me out on a few things but seriously, some of these people are into shit i wouldn't even dream of being into. Some of it makes "me" sick! I've seen shit on fet that wanted to make me vomit to be honest. So, the criticism works both ways ladies. I'm not on here to fight or argue with people. I'm just stating facts when it comes to my dating experiences and this fantasy and role play period. I'm sorry for generalizing. Take it or leave it.....

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Sometimes, I generalize things a bit too much but i'm telling you guys that the incest slant to this fetish is alive and strong in all age groups. That's all i'm saying......

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always an incest slant to it.

I'm not saying there are no Daddies or girls that are into the incest fantasy thing. What I am saying is, I do have a problem with that generalization that there is ALWAYS an incest slant to it. That's just not right. If you dig those fantasies, that's cool for you, but you don't have to add the the stigma DD/lg already has from a lot of people by claiming incorrectly that we are ALL into incest fantasies because we're NOT. Bleah!!

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RE: Daddy/Little Girl or Daughter - 7/17/2011 5:23:29 PM

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I understand your point and I appologize for offending you and anyone else that is offended. But this is a message board right?? There will be and always will be people that bring things to these boards, such as myself, that may not necessarily side with everyones perspective or points of view.

I don't think it's a matter of "siding" - just sharing of thoughts and ideas. And yes, it's a message board, so when people strongly disagree with an idea, they'll say so. It does work both ways.

Since you've just joined, you may not know that this topic comes up every couple of months, and always with people who impy that those of us with "Daddy's" are gross and sick. So the push-back may be stronger than what might seem appropriate, because of that. Stick around to see a "Why are subs fat" thread pop up. I think we're overdue.

To each their own. I might think what someone is doing is sick, but if it's working for them and not hurting anyone else, who am I to tell them what they're doing is wrong? Live and let live, and all that jive...

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RE: Daddy/Little Girl or Daughter - 7/17/2011 7:17:20 PM

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Yea, I hear you. You know what? Fuck em!! That's what I say......they don't get it and they never will. But they expect us to understand them. It's bullshit....as far as subs all being fat? We both know that's not true. :)

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I understand your point and I appologize for offending you and anyone else that is offended. But this is a message board right?? There will be and always will be people that bring things to these boards, such as myself, that may not necessarily side with everyones perspective or points of view.

I don't think it's a matter of "siding" - just sharing of thoughts and ideas. And yes, it's a message board, so when people strongly disagree with an idea, they'll say so. It does work both ways.

Since you've just joined, you may not know that this topic comes up every couple of months, and always with people who impy that those of us with "Daddy's" are gross and sick. So the push-back may be stronger than what might seem appropriate, because of that. Stick around to see a "Why are subs fat" thread pop up. I think we're overdue.

To each their own. I might think what someone is doing is sick, but if it's working for them and not hurting anyone else, who am I to tell them what they're doing is wrong? Live and let live, and all that jive...

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RE: Daddy/Little Girl or Daughter - 7/17/2011 7:39:55 PM

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Here's where this argument gets fuzzy for me. The debate always seems to be whether there's an incest angle or not, with the implication being that the presence of one makes the practice sick and wrong, and the absence good and wholesome. That strikes me as irrelevant. If this was something going on between ACTUAL little girls and their ACTUAL fathers, it would be completely valid to hold forth on that issue. However, since it's happening between grown women and their grown partners, how is it relevant if there is or is not a incestuous undertone? Frankly I wouldn't consider it amoral for a grown woman and her grown father to sleep together as long as they didn't have kids. Anything which harms no one but the mature, informed participants is irrelevant to my world view, especially when it's only roleplay to begin with.

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RE: Daddy/Little Girl or Daughter - 7/17/2011 7:57:06 PM

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RE: Daddy/Little Girl or Daughter - 7/17/2011 8:03:04 PM

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Can I ask a blunt question....people who wear diapers as part of little girl play...do you actually use them or do you use the toilet? And if you use them do you change them or do you have your "daddy" clean you up.

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RE: Daddy/Little Girl or Daughter - 7/17/2011 8:57:01 PM

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Aynne is being realistic about it and even though I see and understand there are all kinds of definitions, meanings, lifestyles with this fetish, I tend to side with her based on my experiences with girls in all age groups and the feedback I get when talking and getting to know them. What blew me away are the 20ish year old girls that are into this. I had know Idea. I like dating younger girls so it obviously turns me on. Some of you might think what turns me on and what I like about this is sick and disgusting. but it's apart of what's going on out there right now in the dating scene when it pertains to this role play and fantasy. Allot of people are into this like Aynne suggested. I'm seeing it's a secret with allot of females. I'm not sure why, but it's been my experience to learn this. But I have come across girls that do not have this fantasy and think it's gross too. Far and few between though. And the fantasy role play is always like I described. The kinky sex talk. Daddy coming into your room at night, daddy reading you a bed time story, daddy giving you a bath........always an incest slant to it. Just get on fet and look around. There's all kinds of that stuff. daughters, mommys, daddys and daughter looking for sister.......

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Aynne is being realistic about it and even though I see and understand there are all kinds of definitions, meanings, lifestyles with this fetish, I tend to side with her based on my experiences with girls in all age groups and the feedback I get when talking and getting to know them. What blew me away are the 20ish year old girls that are into this. I had know Idea. I like dating younger girls so it obviously turns me on. Some of you might think what turns me on and what I like about this is sick and disgusting. but it's apart of what's going on out there right now in the dating scene when it pertains to this role play and fantasy. Allot of people are into this like Aynne suggested. I'm seeing it's a secret with allot of females. I'm not sure why, but it's been my experience to learn this. But I have come across girls that do not have this fantasy and think it's gross too. Far and few between though. And the fantasy role play is always like I described. The kinky sex talk. Daddy coming into your room at night, daddy reading you a bed time story, daddy giving you a bath........always an incest slant to it. Just get on fet and look around. There's all kinds of that stuff. daughters, mommys, daddys and daughter looking for sister.......

Thanks captnkurk for reiterating what I felt to be truth. I do admire you admitting a lot of the same things I have seen. For the posters here that aren't doing it that way, don't worry about it then. If anything, prettybaby has been more YKINMK than me with her comments on those who do, go back and read them. Sooo...stop being so hypocritical with me.

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RE: Daddy/Little Girl or Daughter - 7/17/2011 10:43:21 PM

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I guess I don't get up to this part of the boards enough anymore, because I didn't know that there is a discussion like this every couple of months.

I called my former Owner Daddy more than anything else. This started when we were first together & he called & left a voice mail saying, "This is your Daddy calling." I liked how it sounded & felt so I kept calling him that. I don't have any incest fantasies that involve any real people. But I have lots of fantasies about a lot of things, lots of taboo stuff. And there were times when he was beating me that I liked to say, "NO!! Please stop, Daddy" in a way that spoke to that particular fantasy. But I am 65 & he is 45, so both adults. He's nothing like my Father was, physically, mentally or personality. Although there was the silliness in common.

But a fantasy is a fantasy, nothing more. Some people want their fantasies to be reality. I've made several of my fantasies real. But the really taboo ones need to stay as fantasies for me. So yeah, sometimes when I am having sex, I like to fantasize that something different is happening, because that just makes everything hotter, but that doesn't mean that I want that fantasy to come true.

And I don't understand how someone having a fantasy can be disgusting. It's only going on in one's head & isn't going to affect anyone else at all. But I suppose there are people who would like to be thought police. Hmmmmm.....

ETA: Interesting discussion. Maybe I should come up here more often.

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RE: Daddy/Little Girl or Daughter - 7/18/2011 1:03:19 AM

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For the posters here that aren't doing it that way, don't worry about it then. If anything, prettybaby has been more YKINMK than me with her comments on those who do, go back and read them. Sooo...stop being so hypocritical with me.

I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean, Aynne, but I have not been putting down or trying to insult anyone that DOES have incestuous fantasies. What I am doing is saying that not all DD/lg relationships include such fantasies and that the OP is wrong in saying that they do, as he does in the quote below.

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the fantasy role play is always like I described. The kinky sex talk. Daddy coming into your room at night, daddy reading you a bed time story, daddy giving you a bath........always an incest slant to it. Just get on fet and look around. There's all kinds of that stuff. daughters, mommys, daddys and daughter looking for sister.......

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RE: Daddy/Little Girl or Daughter - 7/18/2011 12:50:22 PM

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That's what I think most men find attractive about it and that is why I find it disgusting. I think a lot of fem subs are in denial when they are calling their man "Daddy" and thinking that it is not a sexual incest fantasy thing for the man. At least captnkurk is honest about it.

I don't know if most men do find it attractive. Steven made it clear that he gets squicked by that part of it, and won't have sex with a partner still in little space.

I think as many men are turned off by it as are turned on. But the ones who are turned on by it tend to be louder. Which is true of any fetishist, they talk ad nauseum about their fetish but you don't get a lot of people starting threads saying "I just wanted to share I'm not into watersports".

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