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RE: Favorite food, Resturant and your Favorite Recipe - 7/17/2011 9:22:16 PM

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To the Olive Garden Lovers:

You can easily and cheaply make much yummier food at home. There are also lots of recipes floating around about how to make various Olive Garden dishes that people love. A google search of "Olive Garden blah blah recipe" or "olive garden copy cat blah blah recipe" will usually yield good results.

I read somewhere that Olive Garden uses Paul Newman's Creamy Italian? Although the Olive Garden's version always seemed less creamy to me. *shrug* There are also other delicious creamy italian dressing recipes online. (And I have one that I can confirm as delicious although not necessarily tasting like OG in particular)

Zuppa Toscana Recipe (Well reviewed by OG lovers)
http://www.grouprecipes.com/31088/olive-garden-copycat-zuppa-toscana.html

BUT... my point isn't really about making recipes LIKE the olive garden... My point is that there are so many good Italian recipes BETTER than the ones at Olive Garden... and they're really not too much work at all. You can buy freshly made pasta that will blow theirs away (although fresh doesn't always mean best, dry totally has it's place). You can even take a lazy afternoon and make your own pasta (food processor, rolling pin and pizza cutter is all you need and you don't even really NEED the food processor). Clearly that's not everyone's cup of tea though. Sauces are also often quite easy to make and for the price of one dinner at the restaurant you can feed 4-6 people. If interested.. you can totally start browsing around the well rated recipes at Allrecipes.com (the comments and reviews are pricesless) for good Italian and often easy directions. But there's sooo many other awesome resources out there too.

If anyone wants some killer Italian (or anything) recipes... you just give me a tap on the other side.

Hope no one took offense, my foodie heart was just breaking at the thought of OG being the most beloved.

I guess I've become a Johnny Appleseed of recipes.

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RE: Favorite food, Resturant and your Favorite Recipe - 7/17/2011 10:36:51 PM

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I used to make Salsa X-ni-pek (loose translation: hotter than a dog's nose) at the restaurant. Used to make Pescado Tikin Xik, Papadzules, Pollo Pibil, Tacos Cochinita Pibil, Sopa de Lima (was my favorite Mexican Soup), and occasionally Pavo en Mole Negro (got the recipe from Restaurant El Cenote Azul in Valladolid, Yucatan).

But I wasn't strictly Yucatecan. I also did Tinga Poblana (Puebla), Camarones en Mole Amarillo (Oaxaca), Caldo Tlalpneno (Tlalpan, a suburb of Mexico D.F.), Ceviche de Camarones (Yucatan; sometimes used Caracol, or conch) Chiles Rellenos en Nogada (Puebla), Quesadillas con Huitlacoche y Epazote (Oaxaca), Sopa de Flor de Calabaza (a recipe I got from Restaurant Tlamanali in Teotitlan del Valle), Huachinango Veracruzana (Veracruz), Chichilo Negro (or Mole Chichilo)(don't remember her name; she had a killer restaurant up in San Felipe del Agua, north of Oaxaca), and lots of other stuff.

I had an extensive repertoir, and have been to Mexico over 30 times, and learned from some of the best chefs. When I say I was one of the best Anglo Mexican chefs in the US, I'm not just tooting my horn. I'm out of the game now, and am not inclined to make Mole Poblano from scratch anymore, nor make Tlayudas.

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RE: Favorite food, Resturant and your Favorite Recipe - 7/17/2011 11:42:38 PM

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RE: Favorite food, Resturant and your Favorite Recipe - 7/18/2011 4:09:29 AM

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Currently the Yashin for Japanese food, I love how they prepare each single dish and the dippings and sauces that go with it, Sidi Massouf (not sure that's the exact name) a Lebanese restaurant with quite moderate prices for London, L'Aventure for their nice French wines and cheeses, super polite staff and they have hand written menues (love that) and on a balmy evening you can sit outside, though still prefer the Absynthe - how can you not love a place that says "Everything's expensive, nothing good", the food is really good just a bit too much meat for my taste. La Collina has super nice Italian seafood, but their tiramisu is not the best (I don't mind, stops me from eating too pudding and ending up clothes that get too tight)

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RE: Favorite food, Resturant and your Favorite Recipe - 7/18/2011 4:21:56 AM

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And please let's not forget the high fat content in OG's food. You can make marvelous Italian food w/o all that fat.

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RE: Favorite food, Resturant and your Favorite Recipe - 7/18/2011 4:41:05 AM

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And please let's not forget the high fat content in OG's food. You can make marvelous Italian food w/o all that fat.

Ya know....Olive Garden...real Italian? Give me a break.......

Americanized Italian maybe...consistent food no matter where you are...absolutely, but real Italian.....oh hell no.

If you want real Italian, look for a mom and pop type place. With a Nona, grandmother, in the kitchen.

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RE: Favorite food, Resturant and your Favorite Recipe - 7/18/2011 4:49:38 AM

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Zingerman's Deli in Ann Arbor, hands down.

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RE: Favorite food, Resturant and your Favorite Recipe - 7/18/2011 4:49:47 AM

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how about we all pick apart each other's favorites? =p certainly that makes for good sport.

i like olive garden's 5 cheese ziti. and their salad dressing is pretty nummy.
i also like the vegetarian lettuce wraps and sushi at a local "intentionally fashionable" restaurant -- is it sushi like you get in Japan? probably not. but i still think it's good. plus they have a snazzy little thing called Happy Hour, where certain things are half price -- i've only ever gone during happy hour. the veggie lettuce wrap is big enough for two people, or you can take half of it home. their prices have gone up a little so i haven't been in a while, but i really like that place.
there's a middle eastern/mediterranean restaurant in KS that i'm mad about, too. they gave us free baklava because we raved about their food.

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RE: Favorite food, Resturant and your Favorite Recipe - 7/18/2011 5:17:23 AM

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http://www.francinebistro.com/

This place, and all of the food. The menu changes every single day, he only serves 4 entrees, 4 starters, all local, organic and sustainable, and it's absolutely awesome. James beard winner, and he's hot. Win win win ;-)

Last time I ate their I had line caught halibut wrapped in baby cabbage and steamed, it was amazing, and he had shad roe and pemaquid oysters with champagne mignonette and we shared duck confit as a starter, and some housemade chicken liver pater. I want to go again right now!

Favorite recipe is probably the one I have for Korean short ribs or ginger and sake steamed salmon, it's so good!

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RE: Favorite food, Resturant and your Favorite Recipe - 7/18/2011 5:23:32 AM

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I don't mean to be a snob (but I am a snob)... you know I couldn't possibly stick to just ONE place. It depends on the city I'm in. In SF I love the chowder in bread bowls. In New York a bagel, in Philly you gotta have a pretzel with whatever that magic mustard is that they have. When I visit home, we always go to this one restaurant because they have the best cole slaw in the world. In a little town just up in the hills above Rome there's a place with artichokes to die for. Bignettes at Cafe du Monde in N'Orleans, papas ala Huancaina in Peru (and don't forget the ceviche!), in Buenos Aires I had this palmetto / asparagus / boiled potato salad that I can still taste in my mouth years later. In Korea the chicken ginseng soup is amazing and in China - I can't even remember the name but it was some noodle thing with black beans or something.

But the very best, the most amazing wonderful glorious food I have - is anything as long as I'm with a friend.

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RE: Favorite food, Resturant and your Favorite Recipe - 7/18/2011 5:54:42 AM

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Ceviche ! :) Yes!

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RE: Favorite food, Resturant and your Favorite Recipe - 7/18/2011 7:39:02 AM

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And please let's not forget the high fat content in OG's food. You can make marvelous Italian food w/o all that fat.

Ya know....Olive Garden...real Italian? Give me a break.......

Americanized Italian maybe...consistent food no matter where you are...absolutely, but real Italian.....oh hell no.

If you want real Italian, look for a mom and pop type place. With a Nona, grandmother, in the kitchen.

Oh my god, people, NO ONE SAID it was "real" or "the best" Italian food! We just said we liked certain things that they served, we never said they were the end all epitome of Italian food! Give us some credit for being aware of that, geez!

Could we just move on with the topic of the thread instead of having meltdowns because someone mentioned Olive Garden as being a place they liked?

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RE: Favorite food, Resturant and your Favorite Recipe - 7/18/2011 7:50:15 AM

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Knees here.

What is your Favorite Resturant, Food, and Recipe?

My favorite food is Italian (pasta) my favorite
Resturant is Olive Garden.

Always, knees~

I don't have one favourite restaurant. Those that I enjoy are never chain restaurants and locally owned.

I also do not have a favourite food. It completely depends upon where I am, and what I am in the mood for. If I am not in the Midwest, I will not eat anything I can get better here, like most beef and pork dishes, especially a steak. I can ALWAYS do that better at home.

The Italian and Mexican food debate.........yes, most of what we eat here in the U.S. is the U.S. version or ideal of Italian and Mexican. No question about it. Here in Iowa City there are several great American Mexican restaurants but the only place you can get anything resembling the real deal is a truck that sets up on the south side of town for some of our transplants. It does not even resemble what is created in the restaurants.......except maybe in that, you can get tortillas but GOOD tortillas.

As for favourite recipes.........sheesh.........impossible! I love to cook! Sometimes I get in the mood for a good Italian red sauce and drag out the big pot. The house smells divine for days after. Winter I get in the mood to make big pots of soups.

Recently, before it got too hot, I was on a bread baking kick and always had something rising, fermenting, baking, just baked. Right now I could care less about cooking and am doing a lot of simple, raw, fresh, eating.

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RE: Favorite food, Resturant and your Favorite Recipe - 7/18/2011 7:52:43 AM

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And please let's not forget the high fat content in OG's food. You can make marvelous Italian food w/o all that fat.

Ya know....Olive Garden...real Italian? Give me a break.......

Americanized Italian maybe...consistent food no matter where you are...absolutely, but real Italian.....oh hell no.

If you want real Italian, look for a mom and pop type place. With a Nona, grandmother, in the kitchen.

Oh my god, people, NO ONE SAID it was "real" or "the best" Italian food! We just said we liked certain things that they served, we never said they were the end all epitome of Italian food! Give us some credit for being aware of that, geez!

Could we just move on with the topic of the thread instead of having meltdowns because someone mentioned Olive Garden as being a place they liked?

You think that was a melt down? Really? Oh gee, one of these days I will have to really have a melt down so people can tell the difference.

BTW: Many OG dishes are so high in fat they are comparable to McDs. I never said it doesn't taste good, we probably all have our favorites. I am merely pointing out that it's not the healthiest place to eat

Patty melt, anyone?

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RE: Favorite food, Resturant and your Favorite Recipe - 7/18/2011 8:00:39 AM

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There were actually some that said Taco Bell was their favorite place to eat Mexican food.

For fast "Mexican" Chipotle is much higher quality than Taco Bell and has a corporate philosophy of Food With Integrity: http://www.chipotle.com/en-us/fwi/animals/animals.aspx

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RE: Favorite food, Resturant and your Favorite Recipe - 7/18/2011 8:10:55 AM

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If you want real Italian, look for a mom and pop type place. With a Nona, grandmother, in the kitchen.

Patrizia's, south of Boston: http://patriziasitaly.com/

I had NO IDEA raviolis were supposed to taste like this! Nom nom nom nom.

The meals are incredible from the artisan bread plus extra virgin olive oil to the cannolis.

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RE: Favorite food, Resturant and your Favorite Recipe - 7/18/2011 11:58:03 AM

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I used to make Salsa X-ni-pek (loose translation: hotter than a dog's nose) at the restaurant. Used to make Pescado Tikin Xik, Papadzules, Pollo Pibil, Tacos Cochinita Pibil, Sopa de Lima (was my favorite Mexican Soup), and occasionally Pavo en Mole Negro (got the recipe from Restaurant El Cenote Azul in Valladolid, Yucatan).

The Xni Pek restaurant had a warning on the menu that their food wasn't particularly spicy but their salsas used real habenaros (sp?). And it was definitely hotter than a dog'snose.

BTW what is it with yucatecan cuisine and radishes? It always strikes me as an odd ingredient for the cuisine.

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RE: Favorite food, Resturant and your Favorite Recipe - 7/18/2011 12:06:13 PM

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There were actually some that said Taco Bell was their favorite place to eat Mexican food.

For fast "Mexican" Chipotle is much higher quality than Taco Bell and has a corporate philosophy of Food With Integrity: http://www.chipotle.com/en-us/fwi/animals/animals.aspx

thats the #1 thing i love about chipotle ^_^ i don't eat the meat there, but still, at least i feel better about going. =p

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RE: Favorite food, Resturant and your Favorite Recipe - 7/18/2011 12:25:54 PM

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I'm so happy about being able to eat pork out again! (I stopped after reading Michael Pollen on factory farming.)

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RE: Favorite food, Resturant and your Favorite Recipe - 7/18/2011 12:41:36 PM

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Never did get around to listing my personal favorites...

Offenbach Stuben - East Berlin - owned by an old queen who was a waiter there back in the days of the wall. Perfectly done Chanterelles.

Tan Dihn - Paris - smoked duck wonton "ravioli" with a hoisin viniagrette, among other goodies, and a vertical of Petrus to die for,

El Naranjo - Oaxaca, Mexico - Oaxacan cuisine as an art form (I hear it's closed... bummer)

Restaurant Tlamanali - Teotitlan del Valle -Oaxaca state - Owned by a famous family of weavers, Abigail Mendoza and either one or two of her sisters run this fantastic place. We watched as one of the women ground the nixtamal (basically freshly made hominy) on a Metate to be made into the most delicate tortillas... here, you can read about it... (Turk Pipkin was the travel writer for Texas Monthly. The two "new friends from the Casa Colonial" were me ann my ex-wife)
http://www.turkpipkin.com/mag/mexico/moon.htm

Reading Turk's account reminded me of that restaurant up in San Felipe - "Nuu Luu".
"The following day I found an even better restaurant, perhaps the best in all of Mexico. A short cab ride from Oaxaca, the Nuu Luu restaurant in the suburb of San Felipe is a picturesque outdoor spot perfect for a Sunday afternoon feast. Beneath a lovely flower-shaded patio, Señora Guadalupe Salinas serves a veritable feast that is all too rarely partaken of by tourists. Welcomed like family, we were quickly served a small apperitivo consisting of mescal crema, grenadine, orange juice and lime, with a sprinkling of guisano around the edge of the glass. Guisano is a spicy margarita salt comprised of salt, ground chiles and ground guisan, the small worms usually found in mescal bottles, but only after being removed from the maguey plants from which the mescal is made. A true culinary adventure.

There is no menu at Nuu Luu, the food just arrives. Among the many plates of appetizers placed on our table were chappilenes (grasshoppers, a Oaxacan specialty which taste like hot salted peanuts with legs), nopales (finely sliced and sautéed cactus leaves), guacamole, fried pig skins, tiny boiled red potatoes and a variety of delicious quesadillas. The sopa ranchero was followed by chicken with molé amarillo, calabicita squash , chicken in banana leaves, rice, black beans and a large bowl of super hot chipotle or roasted jalapeño sauce.

We washed down this banquet with cold Bohemias while I struck up a friendship with a charming one-toothed gentlemen named Señor Beto Palacios Gonzales, a famed local tour guide better known as "Mr. Oaxaca." Staging a banquet for some visiting Mexican businessmen, he invited us to share in the entertainment: first a quelgaletza, a variety of traditional local folk dances in spectacularly colorful costumes; then music from a large marimba band; and finally a weaving and wool-carding demonstration."
Nuu Luu had changed for the worse (IMO) on my last visit, but I did get Sra. Salinas' recipe for Mole Chichilo, the elusive Seventh Mole of Oaxaca. I do remember us sitting out by the pool at El Presidente watching "la Eclipsa" with a couple German tourists, and Turk, quite buzzed, figured he was going to find a ride up to Monte Alban to watch it. Jennie and I stayed put. I saw him years later on "The Sopranos".

Sama Sebu - Amsterdam - my introduction to Rijstaffel, and so far, the best I've had.

Red Fort - Soho - London - this is not your mother's curry house. The Tandoori shrimp were just excellent, nice and tender.

Hotel au Riesling - Riqueher, Alsace - killer Choucroutte with wines from the hotel's own vineyards. Fabulous view of the valley, with row upon row of the grapes for which Alsace is famous.

The Stinking Rose - San Francisco - better be a garlic lover...

There was a Russian restaurant in Montreal that was really romantic... and a little hole in the wall in Grinzing (Vienna) where I had the best Lentils... and this place outside Marbella, Spain where the waiters dressed up like Rennaiscence Troubadors, and seranaded you...

Too much reminiscing...

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