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Agree with the black and white killing thing but there was nothing political (in my estimation of politics) about that, and traitor is more or less a political idea.
"I will have you removed if you don't stop. I have a little system of my own."-Charles Manson
"These children that come at you with knives, they are your children. You taught them. I didn't teach them. I just tried to help them stand up. "-Charles Manson
"A lot of you young people, even though you go through college, you still don’t understand that courtroom. That courtroom is the court of the kings and lords of the world. We as human beings can invoke the ground here called the United States of America. And the reason our system has perpetuated in such a way is because all the powers of Europe and England and monarchies and all those big people; we have come over here and started another world where each man in the United States has that power because he has that courtroom. That courtroom belongs to every human being in the United States. And if you take that courtroom away from one human being, you’re taking that courtroom away from all human beings. Then what follows is you got kings and queens of yesterday – they’re gonna come and play croquet with your heads. They’re gonna take your courtrooms. They’re gonna take your money and they’re gonna take your country. They’re gonna take your resources. They’re gonna rip you off in every way you can think of because you didn’t give your own children the benefit of the courtroom that your fathers fought in battles and died for."- Charles Manson
"I've been 15 years in the nut ward, for trying to stop the trees from being cut down, from trying to rearrange the lifestyle of a bunch of people who don't want to change. But they're gonna to change because a cold wind is blowing. You're gonna change or else there's going to be no life left on the planet Earth." - Charles Manson
"I wanna say this to every man that has a mind, to all the intelligent life forms that exist on this planet Earth. I wish the British would say this to the Scottish Rites and the Masons and all the people with minds who have degrees of knowledge, and who are aware of courts, laws, United Nations, governments.
In the 40s, we had a war, and all of our economies went towards this war effort. The war ended on one level, but we wouldn't let it end on the other levels. We kept buying and selling this war. I'm not locked in the penitentiary for crimes, I'm locked in the Second World War. I'm locked in the Second World War with this decision to bring to the World Court - there must be a One World Court, or we're all gonna be devoured by crime.
Crime, and the definition of crime comes from Nuremberg, when the judges decided that they wanted to call Second World War a crime. Honor and war is not a crime. Crime is bad. When you go to war and you're a soldier, and you fight for your God and your country, that's not criminal. That's honorable. That's what you must do to be a man. If you don't fight for your God and your country, you're not worth anything. If you have no honor, then you're not worth petty's pigs.
Truth is, we've got to overturn this decision that you made in the Second World War, or the Second World War will never end. Degrees of the war was written in Switzerland, in Geneva, at conferences that were made by the men at the tables, clearly stated that anyone in uniform would be given the respect of their rank and their uniforms. Then when the United States and got all the Germans in handcuffs, they started breaking their own rules. And they've been breaking their own rules ever since. War is not a crime, but if you judge war as a crime in a court room, then turn around: If 2 + 3 = 5, and 3 + 2 = 5; if you say war is a crime, then crime becomes your war. I am, by all standards, a prisoner of war.
I've been a prisoner of war since 1944 in Juvenile Hall, for setting a school building on fire in Indianapolis, Indiana. I've been locked up 45 years trying to figure out why I got to be a criminal. It matters not whether I want to be; you've got to keep criminals going to keep the war going because that's your economy, your whole economy is based on the war. You've got to get your dollar bills off the war, you've got your silver market sterling off of the war, you've got to take your gold and your diamonds off of the war - You've got to overturn that decision, that hung 6000 men by the neck.
You killed 6000 soldiers for obeying orders. It's wrong. And the world has got to accept that's wrong. When you accept you're wrong, and you say you're sorry for all the things you've done, then that will be a note on that court, and we'll have some harmony going on this planet Earth, now."- Charles Manson
I could go on quoting him, but, I will not. Those are all political statements, and, there are more where that came from. He was attempting to set himself up as a political leader, to manifest change within the construct of the government, due to what he saw as corruption that needed to be changed, and, he was willing to lead a revolution, to put the greater good of the people above the lives of the individuals, to do it. He was political.
Further quotes, not by him:
"Manson is associated with "Helter Skelter," a term he took from the song "Helter Skelter," written and recorded by The Beatles. Manson misconstrued the lyrics to be about an apocalyptic race war he believed the murders were intended to precipitate."
"Charles Manson , who sometimes believed that he was a prophet for the Son of
Man , the Second Coming of Jesus Christ opening the seven seals mentioned in
the New Testament book of Revelation , in other words the Parousia , was
also a strong admirer of Adolf Hitler , and one of the possible reasons why
Charles Manson carved a swastika in his forehead , was because he was angry
with those Jews who refused to believe that he was a prophet for the Second
Coming of Jesus Christ .Sharon Tate's husband , Roman Polanski , is a Polish
Jew who survived the Nazi Holocaust when he was a boy. Charles Manson, while
in prison from 1960 - 1967, became a follower of the Scientology splinter
sect called The Process Church of the Final Judgement, a sect that worshiped
Adolf Hitler and believed that its members were part of a saved group bound
for "heaven", and whose duty it was to hasten Armageddon. The logo of the
Process Church of the Final Judgement is a swastika. Jesus Christ told His
disciples in Matthew 10 : 1 - 15 to first preach the Gospel of Christianity
to the Jews of Israel , and later Jesus told His disciples to preach the
Christian Gospel to all the nations of the world in Matthew 28 : 18 - 20 .
However , Jesus Christ would not have sanctioned the use of force and
violence in converting people to Christianity , as He had taught His
disciples in Matthew 7 : 12 and Luke 6 : 31 to do towards others as we would
want them to do to us ."
In other words, he was using a political organization and a twisted take on religion, to further his own goals. He is as political as the Reverend Al Sharpton, Pat Robertson, Falwell, and, Hitler himself. He is just not someone who was as successful as any of them. Probably due to the fact that he is more honest.
That was not an admiration of him, either, to say that he is more honest than them. He has lied, stolen, twisted truths, and, incited to murder; but, at least he admits he's done it.
There is one thing that is under dispute though, about what I said, which I cannot honestly tell you which way things go. Some people say that Manson was tryng to help the blacks rise up and destroy the whites because they should do so, some say he was trying to get them to do it so that they would be killed for it, and, some say he was just trying to get it started because he was tired of waiting. As far as I know, he, himself, has never made it clear which it is, because, he keeps denying that the murders were his fault.
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