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DavidLee44UK -> whose right (7/20/2011 9:21:53 AM)
have been over the last few months been talking via email this prosub who says she is sub with few limits yet she dictates when shes meeting people so in my estimation she is controlling the situation which she agrees with yet still says she has few limits which in my views is wrong as shes picking areas, dates etc am i being to pinickity or am i right

GreedyTop -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 9:24:26 AM)
regardless if she is a pro or not, she still has EVERY right to determine who/when/how/ and what happens. it's simply a matter of personal choice/taking repsonsibility for her own safety.

littlewonder -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 9:24:30 AM)
eeerrmm...she's a PROsub..of course she dictates and controls the situation...it's her JOB.

DarkSteven -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 9:27:18 AM)
She's nothing more than a professional, setting up appointments and telling you her limitations and specialties. I'd expect the same from a doctor or accountant.

LadyPact -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 9:31:07 AM)
Any service provider is going to be the ones making the appointments. As a professional, she has to consider all of her clients and make the appropriate arrangements. Just the same as anything else.

zephyroftheNorth -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 9:33:20 AM)
Prosub or not, she has at least a say in when to meet. Any man who thinks he is going to dictate when we meet is in for a big surprise.

BitaTruble -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 9:34:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DavidLee44UK have been over the last few months been talking via email this prosub who says she is sub with few limits yet she dictates when shes meeting people so in my estimation she is controlling the situation which she agrees with yet still says she has few limits which in my views is wrong as shes picking areas, dates etc am i being to pinickity or am i right If she's not owned, she's right. You have the option of cutting ties, adhereing to her schedule or even eventually collaring her then dictating her actions. Until then, she's a free agent.

DavidLee44UK -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 9:41:36 AM)
loll i dont disagree with settin g up appointments etc and thats not my point my point is how can she say shes sub if shes controlling situation

mnottertail -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 9:44:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth Prosub or not, she has at least a say in when to meet. Any man who thinks he is going to dictate when we meet is in for a big surprise. Yeah, you will be doing the dicktaking alright..

LillyBoPeep -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 9:44:59 AM)
because she is a thinking, rational human being? she doesn't belong to YOU does she? so she's not yours and she can control anything she wants. =p

LadyConstanze -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 9:45:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DavidLee44UK have been over the last few months been talking via email this prosub who says she is sub with few limits yet she dictates when shes meeting people so in my estimation she is controlling the situation which she agrees with yet still says she has few limits which in my views is wrong as shes picking areas, dates etc am i being to pinickity or am i right 1. She's a professional sub, she's going to be concerned about her safety, you are entering a business transaction and she's telling you under which conditions she is willing to do business with you, it doesn't mean that she'll be your sub and enter a relationship with you, it means she's willing to sub for you for an hour, for a fixed price, at a location where she feels safe and at a date when it is convenient for her. Pretty standard... Think about it the other way round, if you'd be a female and you'd be willing to offer the same service, wouldn't you also want to make sure that you're as well protected as you can be? 2. Even if she wouldn't be a pro sub, unless you are in a relationship she'd be a free agent and subs have their own expectations as well, they aren't automatically submissive to everybody who wants to dominate them but to the people they pick, so yes, being specific about when and where to meet is fairly reasonable. She doesn't know you, you could be a mass murdering maniac. Look, think about if a close friend or family member would be in her shoes, wouldn't you give them advice on how to be safe and advise her to not meet strangers from the internet anywhere but in public places?

HannahLynHeather -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 9:48:01 AM)
she's a pro sub. its her fucking job. of course she sets the dates and time she has to fit your appointment into her fucking schedule zippy. fuck you have some weird fucking ideas davey, fucking weird.

DavidLee44UK -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 9:52:27 AM)
lol not my point again but answered by people wanna fight and climb pole lol might known

LadyConstanze -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 9:54:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DavidLee44UK loll i dont disagree with settin g up appointments etc and thats not my point my point is how can she say shes sub if shes controlling situation She's just testing your domliness and expects you to wave a magic want (don't you dare to open your zipper!) to make her obey... That was a joke, she is not your freaking sub, in fact she is a pro sub and you are trying to book an appointment, you got to take it on her terms or you're not getting it! She will let you indulge in the fantasy that you are her dom for an hour for a price. Simple as that, really!

LillyBoPeep -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 9:55:25 AM)
(oy, here he goes hinting at the "empire building" conspiracy again) look David, submissive people CAN control things. submissive people are often parents who have to control their kids. they manage their time. they don't fly into the arms of any guy claiming to be a Dom who shows interest in them because they have their own interests, too. she will schedule her time and remain in control until such time as she agrees to give that control to someone else. you're reminding me of the type of guy who says "i want to just be able to go pick any slave i want, and have her not complain" -- sorry, but that's not how life works when you're living among other self-determining sentient beings. okies?

LadyPact -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 10:05:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DavidLee44UK my point is how can she say shes sub if shes controlling situation The terminology on this one has more to do with what is more commonly known than what it really boils down to. Depending on how you look at it, the same can be said for pro dommes. The premise in either case is that they are service providers, but if they were called pro bottoms or pro service tops, that wouldn't be as easily recognizable. Some clients wouldn't know how to find the services in some cases because they aren't familiar with the difference between a sub and a bottom. When they are having their fantasies of playing with someone, they are thinking "sub". In doing so, they are also fulfilling the fantasy of the client, which is part of the job as well.

HannahLynHeather -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 10:07:34 AM)
dickydick, she's a fucking PRO. she is a professional, she is by definition controlling the situation. who's in control, you or your fucking clients? to her you are just another fucking john. some poor sap who can't get a sub of his own who has to pay her to get your rocks off. that's exactly how she sees you, just a fucking client, one among many. got that? you're just another fucking john lining up to get at a call girl

zephyroftheNorth -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 10:07:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail quote: ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth Prosub or not, she has at least a say in when to meet. Any man who thinks he is going to dictate when we meet is in for a big surprise. Yeah, you will be doing the dicktaking alright.. Nah all I'm saying is that we will decide that together. Sorry to disappoint you Ron(ne) but my days of jumping when a man says jump are over. See it as dick taking if you like but that's how it is with me. My profile makes that clear.

myotherself -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 10:12:36 AM)
Of course she's in control. She may well fake submission to you during your session, but in reality she will always be in control. That's her job. If she's good at her job, you will FEEL that you're in control. But outside of the time you pay for, she calls ALL the shots.

LadyConstanze -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 10:28:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DavidLee44UK have been over the last few months been talking via email this prosub who says she is sub with few limits 2nd thoughts - if that has been going on for a few months, she doesn't think you will book anyway and thinks you're one of the typical internet wankers, and therefore making it twice as difficult for you before she even thinks about possibly wasting her time (which in her case is money) for somebody who might not show up. Very unusual to message months in advance in this business.

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