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LadyConstanze -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 4:40:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: susie


Shall we take bets on how long it takes before he makes the next post?



Yes, and wonder what it will be then? His successful business, his ex-slave in Florida, his trip to Japan or France....



LadyPact -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 5:03:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: RqrCompanionS
Picking on the disabled, for being disabled certainly is attacking, where I come from.

I say this quite often around here.  A disability isn't something that should define a person.  A man (or woman) has to be more than just that.  When a disability becomes the focal point of the person, they are more disabled than they really know.

It's no better to make excuses for the content of a person's character and say it's ok because he has a disability than it is to assume less of him based on malady.  No different than saying it's ok for a person to treat others like crap because he's in a wheelchair, so we have to make excuses for him.  If the guy was a dick if he acted the same way and he wasn't in a wheelchair, it doesn't change the fact that he's a dick just because he happens to be in one.



Kaliko -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 5:18:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: RqrCompanionS

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So, the truth finally comes out?  (Either that, or it's another ploy for sympathy.)  Isn't "sheltered accommodation" in the UK something like the equivalent in the US for "assisted care"?  Meaning those folks who aren't quite mentally balanced, but don't need to be in a hospital full time?


Another person making crude and insensitive, attacking comments about someone who is disabled, who even TOLD YOU he was disabled? You obviously know what he meant.

And, this on a site that allegedly promotes tolerance and definitely tells people not to attack each other on the forums.

This is just sick!


You may not be familiar with him. I don't always find his posts so bad (kind of interesting, in a way, the succinct way he writes, even if a little bit confusing). But, I am skeptical of his claims. I have researched for myself a manifestation of a disability he claimed recently, and to the best of my knowledge (thank you Google), I found it to be untrue.

And so, like anybody making any claims on the boards, I do take it with a grain of salt. Others on the boards have had much more experience with this particular poster than I. Perhaps they have had more experiences similar to what I have, which is why they feel the way they do.





JanahX -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 5:25:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DavidLee44UK

loll

i dont disagree with settin g up appointments etc

and thats not my point

my point is how can she say shes sub if shes controlling situation



Controlling the situation? She wants to tell you when she can meet? SHHHHHHH are you ready for this? She might actually have ... (looks both ways .... and whispers) A LIFE.

Yes. Its true. She might actually have other things to do than cater her whole LIFE around what you want to do. Especially, since you obviously dont mean shit to her but a few $$.



LadyConstanze -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 5:26:37 PM)

I take any claims of a person who throws the word whores around but wants a "slave" who pays her bills, does all the chores, helps her create writing and to sell it (when in another post she claimed she was an editor - odd, when I worked in journalism, editors didn't earn too badly and they did their editing and writing themselves - apart from Anna W. but I doubt we're dealing with her here) with more than salt than your regular salt mine produces...

Some people would say somebody else who should pay their way and do all the work is a freeloader, but hey, a lot of male subs might be desperate but possibly not quite that desperate...



LadyPact -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 5:32:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: RqrCompanionS

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So, the truth finally comes out?  (Either that, or it's another ploy for sympathy.)  Isn't "sheltered accommodation" in the UK something like the equivalent in the US for "assisted care"?  Meaning those folks who aren't quite mentally balanced, but don't need to be in a hospital full time?


Another person making crude and insensitive, attacking comments about someone who is disabled, who even TOLD YOU he was disabled? You obviously know what he meant.

And, this on a site that allegedly promotes tolerance and definitely tells people not to attack each other on the forums.

This is just sick!

The OP himself has told us on several threads that he has a learning disability.  That is a completely different issue.  I don't think his learning disability has much to do with how many lies we've caught him telling on the boards.  In fact, he cruised My profile and the profiles of other Dominants to come up with some of the originals for his threads.  In fact, the person that you're defending specifically went searching for a post written by a four time war vet with PTSD in order to make fun of him.  I would show you the thread Myself, but I requested that the Mods pull it.

The comment that you quoted above was not an attack.  It did finally explain the compulsive lying, low self-esteem and some other things from this particular poster.  A learning disability isn't a free pass so that someone won't get called on their BS.

In the US, we don't call living situations where people need help with physical or mental health issues "sheltered accommodations".  We have different names for different types of assistance.  Since there are several people from the UK on this thread, I was asking if it's the same case across the pond.



angelikaJ -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 5:42:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DavidLee44UK

zephyr

lol ok shes a sub that takes control

yet a sub is one that gives up control

YOU F**** tell me witch is correct

im not denying that s sub suggests where to meet

but lol even vanilla life is a comprimise

as a prosub

she controls everything where she meets what time what they do lol

sounds like controlling to me

oh what the heck u all want a fight have one

and notice i havent been rude and nasty


but i guess thats because if i was rude to certain people theyd call in there oh so friendly mods and ban me

lol









David,

If you want ot read a book about what it was like for one pro-sub then I suggest reading this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pleasures-All-Mine-Sexual-Submissive/dp/0786716487/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1311208238&sr=8-1  It is a completely different situation for a professional submissive, David.I am going to try to see if I can explain it well enough.She is being paid mostly for role play and for things like spanking sessions by people who don't have another way to spank, cane, flog etc anyone or who want a no strings attatched spanking opportunity.She is more a professional bottom with some role-play possibilities thrown in. I am glad you are in a situation in which you are being looked after.I hope that arrangement includes regular therapy and work with occupational therapists.That can help a lot. 

And so, yes in a pro-sub relationship, the pro-sub is in control.
She is in contol of when the appointment is and where (usually sub-let space in a dungeon), how much the session will be and what their personal limits are in terms of what is and is not acceptable to them.

It is a different dynamic than that one in a personal D/s relationship.

Edit-clarity



Hillwilliam -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 5:55:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

Hell no, it would have to be halloween or they'd possibly stone me, from what you told me about the locals, they always have their pitchforks ready!


If you showed up like that, they'd have something hard and pokey but it wouldn't be a pitchfork. [8D][8D]



littlewonder -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 7:56:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: RqrCompanionS

quote:

So, the truth finally comes out?  (Either that, or it's another ploy for sympathy.)  Isn't "sheltered accommodation" in the UK something like the equivalent in the US for "assisted care"?  Meaning those folks who aren't quite mentally balanced, but don't need to be in a hospital full time?


Another person making crude and insensitive, attacking comments about someone who is disabled, who even TOLD YOU he was disabled? You obviously know what he meant.

And, this on a site that allegedly promotes tolerance and definitely tells people not to attack each other on the forums.

This is just sick!


So I"m not LadyP but how is what she said attacking? She simply was verifying what he meant by a sheltered home. What she said IS the equivalent.

scratches head in confusion on where the attack was......



VideoAdminAlpha -> RE: whose right (7/21/2011 2:01:05 PM)

I'm putting this back but reminding people the subject is PRO SUBS not the OP. If the topic goes astray, I will pull it again, and will not look kindly upon the posters that chose to ignore My post about it.



LadyConstanze -> RE: whose right (7/21/2011 2:14:28 PM)

OK, maybe we can ask the OP then to clarify what he doesn't understand about a pro sub offering a service and that for her own safety she has to stay in control and be in a controlled environment?

Because I'm frankly puzzled about the "How can she say she is a sub with few limits if she wants to control when and where we meet?"

Pro or not, any female should meet in a place she feels secure, public place, etc. and a relationship starts when both agree upon it and the dynamic, until then free agent with as much rights as the D type. Nothing controlling or unsubly about it. Since she is a pro it is a business transaction and looking out for her safety is normal, I mean most would like to see at least a picture of the bridge they are buying, or a picture of the gorgeous Nigerian submissive who just wants to live for master, before they wire the money for the flight ticket and the visa [;)]



angelikaJ -> RE: whose right (7/21/2011 2:39:09 PM)

 
Back to this thread:
Each person's relationship within the D/s, M/s BDSM spectrum is as individual as the people in them.
The pro-sub may be in a deeply committed D/s relationship in which she is on either side of the kneel... you don't know that.
As a pro-sub, that is her job, but subbing as a pro is different than subbing for a RL partner as I tried to explain it you.

There are Pro-Dommes who go home and sub to their partners because Pro-Domme-ing is their job.

There are some people who say that because the sub is the one who set all the limits they are the ones who have the actual power in a D/s relationship anyway.
I am not sure that I agree with with that.

In terms of "play" however, my Master does.
I have safe words.
It is something he insists upon and will not play without it.
And yet, play IS something he controls.
He chooses what we do... where we do it, how we do it... but by His first rule, I never give up the right to say no.
So, puzzle that out for awhile. [;)]

That does not change the fact that I am not his sub, but his slave and my devotion to him is complete.

David, people get very hung up on labels.
Labels are just words that people give meaning to.



willbeurdaddy -> RE: whose right (7/21/2011 5:16:26 PM)

FR

She's a pro-bottom, not a pro-sub which imo is an oxymoron.



WyldHrt -> RE: whose right (7/21/2011 5:18:16 PM)

Holy crap, the world is gonna end! [>:]
I actually agree with Willbe on something [8D]



kalikshama -> RE: whose right (7/21/2011 5:20:46 PM)

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