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hardcybermaster -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 2:58:48 PM)

Firstly David,it's not rocket science. She is doing her job, the only time she will not be in control is during the session that you pay for and even then it will be in a controlled enviroment.
Secondly you received 7 perfectly reasonable replies to your fairly daft question before you got a reply that was a bit snotty,then you got 4 more good answers before another snotty one. You only bothered replying to the snotty ones. You never thanked or aknowledged the posters who had provided answers, or tried to argue back rationally with them.....
You complain about people having a go but that is clearly what you are looking for. You never look for the good,only the bad.
Think about it



zephyroftheNorth -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 3:02:59 PM)

Sadly you just wasted good advice hcm, he has either hidden or deleted his profile. Does it help that I nodded my head in agreement when I read it? [:)]



hardcybermaster -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 3:04:41 PM)

lol,ty, a little but it's water of a ducks back with him



LadyConstanze -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 3:08:31 PM)

Oh get off the bloody pity train! You asked a question we answered, apparently you don't understand our questions or you are just unwilling to answer, whatever!

Look, if you're going to have a meltdown, at least have the consideration to make it at least as entertaining as Charley Sheen, we're a bit spoiled your usual theatricals just won't do. Are you really too stupid to not realize that we tried to be nice to you and explained why this girl would act like she does?

NOBODY, absolutely NOBODY attacked you, in fact everybody took pains to explain to you WHY it is normal that the girl acts like she does, if you expect anything different, you're going to have a shock when you are trying to meet people. This girl wants to be rather safe than sorry, for you that is controlling.

Listen, why aren't you simply honest and say you have very little experience in BDSM and want to know more about it? Those tall stories and expecting that a sub should be a doormat and follow the instructions of anybody who claims experience or says he's a dominant, it's not going to work like that.



LadyConstanze -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 3:10:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

Sadly you just wasted good advice hcm, he has either hidden or deleted his profile. Does it help that I nodded my head in agreement when I read it? [:)]


Or hidden it and will be back within a day or two, happened a few times before.



zephyroftheNorth -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 3:11:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: hardcybermaster

lol,ty, a little but it's water of a ducks back with him


~grins~ as well it should be. You want to tell LadyC he's gone or should I?



zephyroftheNorth -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 3:14:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze


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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

Sadly you just wasted good advice hcm, he has either hidden or deleted his profile. Does it help that I nodded my head in agreement when I read it? [:)]


Or hidden it and will be back within a day or two, happened a few times before.


yup, either way I can't say I care. C'mon chase me with a flogger and work off some of that exasperation [8D]



LadyConstanze -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 3:23:51 PM)

The good thing is that we don't have to worry about reading about a pro sub who's died under odd circumstances, because chances are she's about as real as the tooth fairy.



hardcybermaster -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 3:32:29 PM)

I think we would be more likely to here about a pro sub killing a client!



LadyConstanze -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 3:34:32 PM)

If any pro sub would have emailed with him for months and not set the record straight and told him to eff off. Unless of course she had a very unusual way of charging per email...



zephyroftheNorth -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 3:35:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

The good thing is that we don't have to worry about reading about a pro sub who's died under odd circumstances, because chances are she's about as real as the tooth fairy.


Wait...the Tooth Fairy isn't real? Uh-oh



LadyConstanze -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 3:37:19 PM)

I didn't say that, in fact the tooth fairy is possibly a lot more real than this "controlling pro sub"



zephyroftheNorth -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 3:39:29 PM)

That's not saying much [:D]



LadyPact -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 3:58:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DavidLee44UK
i actually do have great problems getting my point across and stuff that is why i live in sheltered accomodation for gods sake

i suffedred from depression so every 6 months risk assessments have to be done

no f*** consideration its all a joke

ive had it with this site

for one reason only the nastyness

you can all self destruct for all i care

So, the truth finally comes out?  (Either that, or it's another ploy for sympathy.)  Isn't "sheltered accommodation" in the UK something like the equivalent in the US for "assisted care"?  Meaning those folks who aren't quite mentally balanced, but don't need to be in a hospital full time?

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ORIGINAL: hardcybermaster

Firstly David,it's not rocket science. She is doing her job, the only time she will not be in control is during the session that you pay for and even then it will be in a controlled enviroment.
Secondly you received 7 perfectly reasonable replies to your fairly daft question before you got a reply that was a bit snotty,then you got 4 more good answers before another snotty one. You only bothered replying to the snotty ones. You never thanked or aknowledged the posters who had provided answers, or tried to argue back rationally with them.....
You complain about people having a go but that is clearly what you are looking for. You never look for the good,only the bad.
Think about it

Thank you for noticing.

I'm going to admit that I'm kind of old school on this.  Also, I happen to be cheap.

Due to the number imbalance of Dommes to male subs, I understand a lot of reasons why a client might seek a pro domme on a limited basis.  A male sub just doesn't have the same odds getting their experience in some locations and female tops are always in demand.

The other way around, I'm a bit sketchier about the situation.  Really, if you're a top and you're going to a pro sub either 1) to gain experience in play or 2)  to learn technique, there's always this thing in the back of My head that wonders what circumstances are really happening.  Something is preventing a person from getting their feet wet the old fashioned way.  It could be a spouse.  It could be that there is some kind of issue that nobody will play with you and/or teach anything.  It might even be a case of being banned in the local community and that's pretty serious stuff.  Sure, it could be the other extreme and it's some poor shlep who's spouse is home dying of cancer, but honestly, that's extremely rare.

I spend a lot of time teaching people, either at groups or on an individual basis.  It isn't that hard to walk up to somebody who knows how to do what you want to do and ask them to help you.  Most people will and they'll be glad that you asked.  Shoot, I've already set up learning opportunities for fire play/cupping and florentine flogging with folks who wanted to learn those things at the munch group and I've only been here two months.

It's honestly not that hard to get another top to show someone.  That's how it's been for years and years and as long as people are still doing public play, that option is always going to be available.



LadyConstanze -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 4:19:10 PM)

Quite a lot of guys who occasionally have the urge to slap or spank somebody and who don't want to put the relationship on the rocks because the partner is unwilling or don't have a partner go to pro-subs. Might still be "cheating" in some way but a lot of times nothing sexual happens (pretty often even no nudity - depending on where they are and depending on the limits of the sub) but if that enables the guys to function like good spouses in their relationship, I'm cool with that. Of course it's not honest but my morals are my morals and I can't force them on anybody else, I can make them the condition for a relationship but not tell strangers, so in a way the pro scene is an outlet for some to control the D/s or M/s urges while still technically being faithful.



RqrCompanionS -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 4:24:12 PM)

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Are you really too stupid to not realize that we tried to be nice to you and explained why this girl would act like she does?

NOBODY, absolutely NOBODY attacked you


Not wishing to get too involved, but, I just have to say that it is very funny to see a post, where you call a man stupid, then, tell him that no one attacked him, Especially when his profile says he has some sort of learning disability.

Picking on the disabled, for being disabled certainly is attacking, where I come from.

I thought we were supposed to be avoiding direct attacks on people? Many is the time I specifically did not tell someone they were stupid, couldn't tell their arse from a hole in the ground, and/or wouldn't know what being submissive was if it came up and begged them to let it bite them on the arse, because, I had read somewhere that directly insulting people, even ones who annoy you, or belittling them, is a big no-no.

So, why are you directly attacking a man with a learning disability, insulting him for having it, and, then telling him he has not been attacked?

That's a rhetorical question, by the way. As someone who is also disabled, though not with a learning disability, and, as the mother of a son with learning a learning disability, I am disgusted by your post, here, and, I have no interest in hearing a reply. I hope you think of some better way to handle things in the future, though.



susie -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 4:32:48 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze


quote:

ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

Sadly you just wasted good advice hcm, he has either hidden or deleted his profile. Does it help that I nodded my head in agreement when I read it? [:)]


Or hidden it and will be back within a day or two, happened a few times before.


Shall we take bets on how long it takes before he makes the next post?



LadyConstanze -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 4:33:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: RqrCompanionS

quote:

Are you really too stupid to not realize that we tried to be nice to you and explained why this girl would act like she does?

NOBODY, absolutely NOBODY attacked you


Not wishing to get too involved, but, I just have to say that it is very funny to see a post, where you call a man stupid, then, tell him that no one attacked him, Especially when his profile says he has some sort of learning disability.

Picking on the disabled, for being disabled certainly is attacking, where I come from.

I thought we were supposed to be avoiding direct attacks on people? Many is the time I specifically did not tell someone they were stupid, couldn't tell their arse from a hole in the ground, and/or wouldn't know what being submissive was if it came up and begged them to let it bite them on the arse, because, I had read somewhere that directly insulting people, even ones who annoy you, or belittling them, is a big no-no.

So, why are you directly attacking a man with a learning disability, insulting him for having it, and, then telling him he has not been attacked?

That's a rhetorical question, by the way. As someone who is also disabled, though not with a learning disability, and, as the mother of a son with learning a learning disability, I am disgusted by your post, here, and, I have no interest in hearing a reply. I hope you think of some better way to handle things in the future, though.



For all I care, you can go back where you come from!

Personally I think you are full of .... and your great claims of being an editor - odd that, used to work as one and they all used to have a brain and looked at a few facts.

As for you not being interested in my reply, I didn't think you would be, would require brain. Feel free to do what I do, I click the mighty ignore button, because your self-serving BS is a bit much for my taste. You have been around and seen him pull the same thing over and over again? And of course you do know that he really has a disability or if it is not just another one of his lies, because uhhh, yeah right, you come here and get on a high horse.

Go and polish your halo and throw words like whores around, because wow, you are such a splendid person. Enjoy your life, though I have a feeling you don't.



RqrCompanionS -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 4:35:02 PM)

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So, the truth finally comes out?  (Either that, or it's another ploy for sympathy.)  Isn't "sheltered accommodation" in the UK something like the equivalent in the US for "assisted care"?  Meaning those folks who aren't quite mentally balanced, but don't need to be in a hospital full time?


Another person making crude and insensitive, attacking comments about someone who is disabled, who even TOLD YOU he was disabled? You obviously know what he meant.

And, this on a site that allegedly promotes tolerance and definitely tells people not to attack each other on the forums.

This is just sick!



LadyConstanze -> RE: whose right (7/20/2011 4:37:32 PM)

Funny, how you are so delicate now, you weren't here

http://www.collarchat.com/m_3775987/mpage_2/tm.htm

When YOU saw fit to make comments about the spelling of somebody who has a disability.... Ohhhh wow, can we all say hypocrite?



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