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RE: Bringing civility back to congress. - 7/23/2011 4:55:12 PM   
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RE: Bringing civility back to congress. - 7/23/2011 7:12:31 PM   
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So long as we have someone liked 'lockedaway' or any of the other 'children' these forums will never have a decent level of civility to talk about important.....adult....matters....

You want to have more civility on these boards (asking the forum, not just DK)? Tell the Admins to ban lockedaway and folks like him for the next six months. Call it an educated guess, but I do think things will get PLENTY more ugly without encouragement from the 'little kids table'.


There seems to be more moderation in P&R lately and while I don't like it when threads disappear, I like it less when people are attacked, as opposed to their argument.

I'm for more civility here and don't care if others consider banning personal attacks censorship

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RE: Bringing civility back to congress. - 7/24/2011 12:20:22 AM   
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Another intetnional misstatement by KenDoll (or you dont understand the 1st Amendment, neither would suprise me). What he is complaining about is exactly the opposite...Sharia combines church and state and violates the 1st amendment.


Right. But that has absolutely fuckall to do with a mosque being built in Tennessee. He's not opposing the introduction of Sharia law. he's opposing the construction of a house of worship.

It's like saying...I oppose the construction of this synagogue in Tennessee because Leviticus is a code of laws and that violates the separation of church and state. It makes no fucking sense at all.

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RE: Bringing civility back to congress. - 7/28/2011 10:21:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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Right but the reason they are opposed to it is the specific religion ...Cain even said that the issue is that Islam is a combination of church and state and that they are trying to hide behind first amendment protectionof religion. His issue isn't with freedom of religion...he just doesn't think freedom of religion applies to Islam.


I disagree with your characterization of the opposition being due to the specific religion, Islam.

Cain's own words on the subject
http://nation.foxnews.com/herman-cain/2011/07/17/herman-cain-islam-combines-church-and-state

More blatant desire to violate the 1st amendment I've rarely seen.


Another intetnional misstatement by KenDoll (or you dont understand the 1st Amendment, neither would suprise me). What he is complaining about is exactly the opposite...Sharia combines church and state and violates the 1st amendment.

Funny thing liar, Guess who else agrees that Herman Cain's statements show an intention to violate the 1st Amendment?

Herman Cain
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/07/28/cain-apologizes-to-muslim-americans/

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RE: Bringing civility back to congress. - 7/28/2011 1:11:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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Right but the reason they are opposed to it is the specific religion ...Cain even said that the issue is that Islam is a combination of church and state and that they are trying to hide behind first amendment protectionof religion. His issue isn't with freedom of religion...he just doesn't think freedom of religion applies to Islam.


I disagree with your characterization of the opposition being due to the specific religion, Islam.

Cain's own words on the subject
http://nation.foxnews.com/herman-cain/2011/07/17/herman-cain-islam-combines-church-and-state

More blatant desire to violate the 1st amendment I've rarely seen.


Another intetnional misstatement by KenDoll (or you dont understand the 1st Amendment, neither would suprise me). What he is complaining about is exactly the opposite...Sharia combines church and state and violates the 1st amendment.

Funny thing liar, Guess who else agrees that Herman Cain's statements show an intention to violate the 1st Amendment?

Herman Cain
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/07/28/cain-apologizes-to-muslim-americans/



Nice try, hack. Guess you dont understand the meaning of "may have" in an apology.

"After his meeting with four Muslim leaders, Cain said he is still opposed to the "interference of shariah law into the American legal system," but that Muslims have a right to openly practice their religion." Entirely consistent with what he has said all along.



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RE: Bringing civility back to congress. - 7/28/2011 1:13:39 PM   
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RE: Bringing civility back to congress. - 7/28/2011 1:16:49 PM   
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Just as long as they don't openly practice their religion in a mosque in Tennessee, right?


Im not familiar with the TN situation youre referring to. If you want to change that to the WTC mosque, then yes, its not a 1st Amendment issue, its a zoning issue.

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RE: Bringing civility back to congress. - 7/28/2011 1:20:22 PM   
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Im not familiar with the TN situation youre referring to. If you want to change that to the WTC mosque, then yes, its not a 1st Amendment issue, its a zoning issue.


......................

YOU ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE TENNESSEE MOSQUE THAT HERMAN CAIN MADE CONTROVERSIAL COMMENTS ON?

ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUSLY ADMITTING YOU ARE JUST TALKING ABOUT RANDOM SHIT THAT YOU HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT?

DID YOU EVEN READ THE ARTICLE YOU COMMENTED ON

FUCK ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS

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RE: Bringing civility back to congress. - 7/28/2011 1:21:14 PM   
willbeurdaddy


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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy
Im not familiar with the TN situation youre referring to. If you want to change that to the WTC mosque, then yes, its not a 1st Amendment issue, its a zoning issue.


......................

YOU ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE TENNESSEE MOSQUE THAT HERMAN CAIN MADE CONTROVERSIAL COMMENTS ON?

ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUSLY ADMITTING YOU ARE JUST TALKING ABOUT RANDOM SHIT THAT YOU HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT?

DID YOU EVEN READ THE ARTICLE YOU COMMENTED ON

FUCK ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS



The article I read was on the WTC.

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RE: Bringing civility back to congress. - 7/28/2011 1:25:39 PM   
imperatrixx


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Seriously I searched for Herman Cain WTC, Herman Cain World Trade Center, Herman Cain WTC mosque, Herman Cain World Trade Center mosque, and all I could find was his comments about the mosque being built in Tennessee.

fuaaaaark help me find this WTC mosque article please.

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RE: Bringing civility back to congress. - 7/28/2011 1:57:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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ORIGINAL: imperatrixx

Right but the reason they are opposed to it is the specific religion ...Cain even said that the issue is that Islam is a combination of church and state and that they are trying to hide behind first amendment protectionof religion. His issue isn't with freedom of religion...he just doesn't think freedom of religion applies to Islam.


I disagree with your characterization of the opposition being due to the specific religion, Islam.

Cain's own words on the subject
http://nation.foxnews.com/herman-cain/2011/07/17/herman-cain-islam-combines-church-and-state

More blatant desire to violate the 1st amendment I've rarely seen.


Another intetnional misstatement by KenDoll (or you dont understand the 1st Amendment, neither would suprise me). What he is complaining about is exactly the opposite...Sharia combines church and state and violates the 1st amendment.

Funny thing liar, Guess who else agrees that Herman Cain's statements show an intention to violate the 1st Amendment?

Herman Cain
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/07/28/cain-apologizes-to-muslim-americans/



Nice try, hack. Guess you dont understand the meaning of "may have" in an apology.

"After his meeting with four Muslim leaders, Cain said he is still opposed to the "interference of shariah law into the American legal system," but that Muslims have a right to openly practice their religion." Entirely consistent with what he has said all along.

Actually liar, what Cain said included this
quote:

"I am truly sorry for any comments that may have betrayed my commitment to the U.S. Constitution and the freedom of religion guaranteed by it."



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RE: Bringing civility back to congress. - 7/28/2011 1:58:48 PM   
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REALLY BECAUSE I CANT FIND AN ARTICLE LIKE THAT ANYWHERE

Seriously I searched for Herman Cain WTC, Herman Cain World Trade Center, Herman Cain WTC mosque, Herman Cain World Trade Center mosque, and all I could find was his comments about the mosque being built in Tennessee.

fuaaaaark help me find this WTC mosque article please.

willbur is making stuff up again. All of Cain's comments are on the TN mosque.

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RE: Bringing civility back to congress. - 7/28/2011 2:03:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: imperatrixx

REALLY BECAUSE I CANT FIND AN ARTICLE LIKE THAT ANYWHERE

Seriously I searched for Herman Cain WTC, Herman Cain World Trade Center, Herman Cain WTC mosque, Herman Cain World Trade Center mosque, and all I could find was his comments about the mosque being built in Tennessee.

fuaaaaark help me find this WTC mosque article please.

willbur is making stuff up again. All of Cain's comments are on the TN mosque.


Except for his interview with Chris Wallace, of course.

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RE: Bringing civility back to congress. - 7/28/2011 2:04:53 PM   
willbeurdaddy


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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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ORIGINAL: imperatrixx

Right but the reason they are opposed to it is the specific religion ...Cain even said that the issue is that Islam is a combination of church and state and that they are trying to hide behind first amendment protectionof religion. His issue isn't with freedom of religion...he just doesn't think freedom of religion applies to Islam.


I disagree with your characterization of the opposition being due to the specific religion, Islam.

Cain's own words on the subject
http://nation.foxnews.com/herman-cain/2011/07/17/herman-cain-islam-combines-church-and-state

More blatant desire to violate the 1st amendment I've rarely seen.


Another intetnional misstatement by KenDoll (or you dont understand the 1st Amendment, neither would suprise me). What he is complaining about is exactly the opposite...Sharia combines church and state and violates the 1st amendment.

Funny thing liar, Guess who else agrees that Herman Cain's statements show an intention to violate the 1st Amendment?

Herman Cain
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/07/28/cain-apologizes-to-muslim-americans/



Nice try, hack. Guess you dont understand the meaning of "may have" in an apology."After his meeting with four Muslim leaders, Cain said he is still opposed to the "interference of shariah law into the American legal system," but that Muslims have a right to openly practice their religion." Entirely consistent with what he has said all along.

Actually liar, what Cain said included this
quote:

"I am truly sorry for any comments that may have betrayed my commitment to the U.S. Constitution and the freedom of religion guaranteed by it."





LMAO. Back under the bridge, troll.

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RE: Bringing civility back to congress. - 7/28/2011 2:05:16 PM   
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RE: Bringing civility back to congress. - 7/28/2011 2:06:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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REALLY BECAUSE I CANT FIND AN ARTICLE LIKE THAT ANYWHERE

Seriously I searched for Herman Cain WTC, Herman Cain World Trade Center, Herman Cain WTC mosque, Herman Cain World Trade Center mosque, and all I could find was his comments about the mosque being built in Tennessee.

fuaaaaark help me find this WTC mosque article please.

willbur is making stuff up again. All of Cain's comments are on the TN mosque.


Except for his interview with Chris Wallace, of course.

actually that interview is about TN as well.
http://nation.foxnews.com/herman-cain/2011/07/17/herman-cain-islam-combines-church-and-state

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RE: Bringing civility back to congress. - 7/28/2011 2:08:19 PM   
willbeurdaddy


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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REALLY BECAUSE I CANT FIND AN ARTICLE LIKE THAT ANYWHERE

Seriously I searched for Herman Cain WTC, Herman Cain World Trade Center, Herman Cain WTC mosque, Herman Cain World Trade Center mosque, and all I could find was his comments about the mosque being built in Tennessee.

fuaaaaark help me find this WTC mosque article please.

willbur is making stuff up again. All of Cain's comments are on the TN mosque.


Except for his interview with Chris Wallace, of course.

actually that interview is about TN as well.
http://nation.foxnews.com/herman-cain/2011/07/17/herman-cain-islam-combines-church-and-state


Wow, a concession from KenDoll. Must be drinking. Or did you not know the meaning of "All" in your prior post?

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RE: Bringing civility back to congress. - 7/28/2011 2:08:25 PM   
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RE: Bringing civility back to congress. - 7/28/2011 2:12:41 PM   
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Except for his interview with Chris Wallace, of course.


the first thing

that chris wallace said

in that interview

was:

....


.....

wait for it

.....

YOU SAID THIS WEEK THAT YOU OPPOSE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW MOSQUE IN MURFREESBORO TENNESSEE

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RE: Bringing civility back to congress. - 7/28/2011 2:14:26 PM   
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