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RE: Amy Winehouse found dead - 7/27/2011 3:55:43 PM

LafayetteLady

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Really? We both don't feel the need to feel sympathy for someone who chose what they are doing and died from it.

My other comments might not agree with yours, but the bottom line remains, a drug addict cares only about where they get their next fix. Doesn't matter how many times they are stoned and tell you how sorry they are, how much they want to get help. The next time they want to get high, how much the addict hurt their loved ones is irrelevant.

"Talented" people with much more to give die from tragic circumstances all the time. I'm not going to mourn the death of someone who pulled their own trigger.

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RE: Amy Winehouse found dead - 7/27/2011 6:11:12 PM

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That's a wonderful record.
Either that one or Trans Europe Express for me.

The Man Machine is exceptional. Trans Europe Express is good too but I personally feel it isn't quite in the same league. I was disappointed by their rekatively recent Tour de France album. I felt it was very sterile. Even if they kept using some of their old analogue synths it would have helped give it some life.

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Visconti was a really good producer. You only have to take a quick listen to Transformer to see his skill for polishing turds: can you imagine how unlistenable that one would have been if they'd just left Reed to it?
(Pity they didn't let him loose on Raw power instead of letting Bowie produce it in a toilet cistern...)

Visconti is a great producer. He also did some good work for Mark Bolan. if fact you can hear stylistic echoes of that on the albums he produced for Thin Lizzy. I might be wrong but I thought Mick Ronson was the producer of Transformer. Bowie really fucked up the mix on Raw Power lol. However, Iggy's 1996 mix wasn't great either - its way too distorted.

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RE: Amy Winehouse found dead - 7/27/2011 7:46:51 PM

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead
That's a wonderful record.
Either that one or Trans Europe Express for me.

The Man Machine is exceptional. Trans Europe Express is good too but I personally feel it isn't quite in the same league. I was disappointed by their rekatively recent Tour de France album. I felt it was very sterile. Even if they kept using some of their old analogue synths it would have helped give it some life.

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Visconti was a really good producer. You only have to take a quick listen to Transformer to see his skill for polishing turds: can you imagine how unlistenable that one would have been if they'd just left Reed to it?
(Pity they didn't let him loose on Raw power instead of letting Bowie produce it in a toilet cistern...)

Visconti is a great producer. He also did some good work for Mark Bolan. if fact you can hear stylistic echoes of that on the albums he produced for Thin Lizzy. I might be wrong but I thought Mick Ronson was the producer of Transformer. Bowie really fucked up the mix on Raw Power lol. However, Iggy's 1996 mix wasn't great either - its way too distorted.

Ronson and Bowie are credited as producers. My favorite TL album is Renegade probably the least liked in general.

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RE: Amy Winehouse found dead - 7/27/2011 9:37:48 PM

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead
That's a wonderful record.
Either that one or Trans Europe Express for me.

The Man Machine is exceptional. Trans Europe Express is good too but I personally feel it isn't quite in the same league. I was disappointed by their rekatively recent Tour de France album. I felt it was very sterile. Even if they kept using some of their old analogue synths it would have helped give it some life.

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Visconti was a really good producer. You only have to take a quick listen to Transformer to see his skill for polishing turds: can you imagine how unlistenable that one would have been if they'd just left Reed to it?
(Pity they didn't let him loose on Raw power instead of letting Bowie produce it in a toilet cistern...)

Visconti is a great producer. He also did some good work for Mark Bolan. if fact you can hear stylistic echoes of that on the albums he produced for Thin Lizzy. I might be wrong but I thought Mick Ronson was the producer of Transformer. Bowie really fucked up the mix on Raw Power lol. However, Iggy's 1996 mix wasn't great either - its way too distorted.

Ronson and Bowie are credited as producers. My favorite TL album is Renegade probably the least liked in general.

Thats true although I think I read a while back that Ronson was more drawn into the nuts and bolts of it but not 100% about that. Is Renegade really your favourite Thin Lizzy album? Its pretty dire except for Hollywood and Fats which is an unusual jazzy number. I felt it was a good deal worse than Chinatown which is regarded as the first album that ended their classic period. An album of their's I really like is Fighting from 1975. It was just before they became big and not too many have heard it. Some don't like it but I reckon its one of their best and heaviest. It features what I consider to be one of the great forgotten 1970's HM tracks "Wild One" which is oddly fitting for the subject of this thread, as is Spirit Slips Away thematically speaking.

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RE: Amy Winehouse found dead - 7/27/2011 10:57:54 PM

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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

Really? We both don't feel the need to feel sympathy for someone who chose what they are doing and died from it.

My other comments might not agree with yours, but the bottom line remains, a drug addict cares only about where they get their next fix. Doesn't matter how many times they are stoned and tell you how sorry they are, how much they want to get help. The next time they want to get high, how much the addict hurt their loved ones is irrelevant.

"Talented" people with much more to give die from tragic circumstances all the time. I'm not going to mourn the death of someone who pulled their own trigger.

Yes, really. Because while I have no desire to pity her, I have no desire to criticize her either.

Look if she were hurting her lived ones by stealing from them or neglecting a child I would say you had a point but she had no kids and could definitely afford her addiction. So she was hurting people by living her own life, and yes that caused her loved ones pain, but there was no malice there.

It is fine if you see her as "the addict" instead of the person or the singer, and its even fine for you to post on her death thread about how much of a fuck you don't give, but my point was that her life was her own and yours seems to be focusing on how bad it was that her lifestyle choices caused others inadvertent pain.

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