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ORIGINAL: lockedaway What I am saying about your post, Imperatrixx, is that it is hard to make a living. So the fuck what? MM said that it is not as hard as people make it. I'm not sure what MM means but if he means that people, through their decisions, fuck up their lives and hamstring themselves, well...that's true. But that doesn't mean that the rest of society has to bear the brunt of their bad choices. You say "its expensive". Yeah...great...everyone thinks it is expensive, thanks for the revelation. The ISSUE is how much the top 50% should have to pay for the bottom 50% and the illegal population that is not included in the percentage because, if they were, it would be the top 40% supporting the bottom 60% or worse still. Well I'll repeat to you what I said to Firm - with progressive tax, the people who have financially benefitted the most from living in America are the ones who are expected to give the most back, financially, to America. I tend to see America as a whole, to me, social programs should be about investing in America as a whole, not about taking from one group and giving to another group. I touched on this in another thread with you, when I mentioned the Nordic model of social welfare...the idea there is not giving money to poor people, but giving stability to all people, including the working and middle class. I will say, I agree 100% that a social model where multi-billionaires are paying to feed the destitute is nowhere close to ideal. Anything after that, though, is where you and I diverge. See, the thing is, I don't see all poor people as leeches. Are there welfare recipients who are gaming the system, using public funds to support their drug habit? Of course there are. Flip that and say, are there corporate execs (coughmicrosoftcough) that deliberately violate the law because they've worked out that paying the fine is cheaper than doing the right thing? Of course there are. Long story short, there are shit cunt poor people and there are shit cunt rich people. But if you're basing your opinions of the poor on the worst in the barrel, you should also do the same for the rich. Otherwise you just seem prejudiced. The shit cunt rich fucks hurt a whole lot more people, though. BTW, you asked a question the other day, and I answered it. Do you remember what you asked?
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