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domiguy -> RE: Why did I get topped from the bottom? (7/25/2011 1:30:30 PM)

To try and be nice. We all have certain actions or words that if used towards our person that would most definitely end a relationship. Everyone should.

But we cannot control every outcome when dealing with people even those that are our submissives.




DesFIP -> RE: Why did I get topped from the bottom? (7/25/2011 2:51:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

The guy didn't lose control... he never *had* control.



BINGO!!! Perfectly stated. [:)]




Actually that's insufficient. She never had any control over herself to give to him. An unmedicated bipolar is out of control. It really is that simple.

Next time the op shouldn't get involved with people who need saving and aren't willing to do any of the work involved in order to save themselves. Offering a helping hand is one thing, saving somebody who doesn't want to be saved is something else.




Arpig -> RE: Why did I get topped from the bottom? (7/25/2011 3:04:29 PM)

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However, on *this* thread, i haven't seen him twist anything around, and you have avoided directly rebutting his argument that he didn't
I have no intention of trying to rebut anything he says for two reasons. Firstly, because I honestly don't care what he says, he very rarely says anything worth reading. I find 98% of his opinions deeply misguided and founded in an unrealistic fantasy land mostly unrelated to reality.

And secondly, because I personally find attempting to discuss anything with him very much like trying to reason with my autistic son when he is having a major melt down...you are never going to get anywhere, because "I didn't say that.", "No I didn't", "That's not what I meant", "I said that". Like I said, he should learn to write what he means the first time so he doesn't have to explain and redefine. I don't think he can, I think he is intellectually lacking and he starts out with something deeply flawed and then sucks ideas from arguments against him from posters he idolizes and absorbs them as his own and restates his position to include the new perspective.

I'm tired of the annoying little puke and his intellectual dishonesty. If you or anybody else disagrees with me...so be it, I don't happen to care, I'm not now, nor have I ever been engaged in a popularity contest. I know what I've seen in his posts, and that's all I need, you see what you see, I see what I see. I happen to think you see wrong.

End of discussion.




MasterSlaveLA -> RE: Why did I get topped from the bottom? (7/25/2011 3:14:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

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ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

The guy didn't lose control... he never *had* control.



BINGO!!! Perfectly stated. [:)]




Actually that's insufficient. She never had any control over herself to give to him. An unmedicated bipolar is out of control.



If unmedicated (and in need of meds at the time), that's certainly a fair point. [:)]





MasterSlaveLA -> RE: Why did I get topped from the bottom? (7/25/2011 3:16:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

...you worthless ho's and pets.



You say that like it's a BAD thing?!! [8D]





gungadin09 -> RE: Why did I get topped from the bottom? (7/25/2011 3:30:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

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However, on *this* thread, i haven't seen him twist anything around, and you have avoided directly rebutting his argument that he didn't
I have no intention of trying to rebut anything he says for two reasons. Firstly, because I honestly don't care what he says, he very rarely says anything worth reading. I find 98% of his opinions deeply misguided and founded in an unrealistic fantasy land mostly unrelated to reality.

And secondly, because I personally find attempting to discuss anything with him very much like trying to reason with my autistic son when he is having a major melt down...you are never going to get anywhere, because "I didn't say that.", "No I didn't", "That's not what I meant", "I said that". Like I said, he should learn to write what he means the first time so he doesn't have to explain and redefine. I don't think he can, I think he is intellectually lacking and he starts out with something deeply flawed and then sucks ideas from arguments against him from posters he idolizes and absorbs them as his own and restates his position to include the new perspective.

I'm tired of the annoying little puke and his intellectual dishonesty. If you or anybody else disagrees with me...so be it, I don't happen to care, I'm not now, nor have I ever been engaged in a popularity contest. I know what I've seen in his posts, and that's all I need, you see what you see, I see what I see. I happen to think you see wrong.

End of discussion.



In other words... you're basically calling him a liar, but you're not willing to back it up.

pam




DecadentDesire -> RE: Why did I get topped from the bottom? (7/25/2011 3:31:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

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However, on *this* thread, i haven't seen him twist anything around, and you have avoided directly rebutting his argument that he didn't
I have no intention of trying to rebut anything he says for two reasons. Firstly, because I honestly don't care what he says, he very rarely says anything worth reading. I find 98% of his opinions deeply misguided and founded in an unrealistic fantasy land mostly unrelated to reality.

And secondly, because I personally find attempting to discuss anything with him very much like trying to reason with my autistic son when he is having a major melt down...you are never going to get anywhere, because "I didn't say that.", "No I didn't", "That's not what I meant", "I said that". Like I said, he should learn to write what he means the first time so he doesn't have to explain and redefine. I don't think he can, I think he is intellectually lacking and he starts out with something deeply flawed and then sucks ideas from arguments against him from posters he idolizes and absorbs them as his own and restates his position to include the new perspective.

I'm tired of the annoying little puke and his intellectual dishonesty. If you or anybody else disagrees with me...so be it, I don't happen to care, I'm not now, nor have I ever been engaged in a popularity contest. I know what I've seen in his posts, and that's all I need, you see what you see, I see what I see. I happen to think you see wrong.

End of discussion.



Man and just when I thought we were becoming the best of friends...

*sigh*





Arpig -> RE: Why did I get topped from the bottom? (7/25/2011 3:53:52 PM)

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In other words... you're basically calling him a liar, but you're not willing to back it up.
More like I couldn't be bothered.




DecadentDesire -> RE: Why did I get topped from the bottom? (7/25/2011 4:09:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: gungadin09
In other words... you're basically calling him a liar, but you're not willing to back it up.


I know I threw my little jab in there at the end, but I won't mind letting this end if you don't mind either. Arpig can have his opinion. His ego needs it after putting his head in such an uncomfortable position lol.

We had a really good discussion going on about social dominance vs BDSM dominance and I would hate for it to get lost.




Arpig -> RE: Why did I get topped from the bottom? (7/25/2011 4:22:59 PM)

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His ego needs it after putting his head in such an uncomfortable position lol.
See what I mean by "deeply misguided and founded in an unrealistic fantasy land mostly unrelated to reality"?

If he was even vaguely aware, he'd know by now that I am anything but egotistical and I am my own biggest critic and I have regularly posted openly about my shortcomings. That I have a brutally honest, realistic and unflattering view of myself. And that I make more jokes at my own expense than I do at the expense of everybody else combined.

Unjustified egotism....I'm doing it wrong, he's doing it right.





DecadentDesire -> RE: Why did I get topped from the bottom? (7/25/2011 4:59:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

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His ego needs it after putting his head in such an uncomfortable position lol.
See what I mean by "deeply misguided and founded in an unrealistic fantasy land mostly unrelated to reality"?

If he was even vaguely aware, he'd know by now that I am anything but egotistical and I am my own biggest critic and I have regularly posted openly about my shortcomings. That I have a brutally honest, realistic and unflattering view of myself. And that I make more jokes at my own expense than I do at the expense of everybody else combined.

Unjustified egotism....I'm doing it wrong, he's doing it right.



Man, for someone who does not care at all about me and my opinions, you are sure spending a lot of time following me around on threads and justifying yourself.

Which is doubly odd since you also stated you don't care if anyone agrees with your opinion of me. Yet...here you are...apparently trying to convince the world how right you are of me.

All right, I am gonna give you one more little jab back before I sign off. You've really earned a special place in my heart tonight that I am going to break my own rules just for you....

To be honest, man, I don't really think you made a fool out of yourself. You didn't do anything that anyone else hasn't done before. You completely misread my post, got your arrogance on, and then got called out on how wrong you were. You even made a point to own up to that which I thought showed some character.

I mostly made that jab for two reasons. One, because I wanted to see how you would react. You didn't let me down. You got all flustered and responded even after making the stance that you "couldn't be bothered with me". It just confirms the opinion of the weak character I have been seeing this entire time.

Two, to be honest, man, I really have no intention of just lying down and eating a bunch of shit WITHOUT poking a little fun at your expense. I mean, really, do I have some kind of sign on my profile that says "Use me and my posts as you're punching bag to compensate for whatever personal insecurity and feelings of inadequacy you may have"?

But hey... fine...you want to "share our opinions in a direct and unfiltered way", I can play along with that. I'm pretty much fed up with your Internet crap.

It makes me giggle when you choke up some negative opinion of how "immature, insecure, weak, pathetic" someone or something is anytime you feel a little bit threatened and then proceed to self-validate yourself with statements of "I'm so big and tough and dominant that I am super direct and just say what I think like a weal man"

If you need to hash out that kind of self support to work up the balls to sit behind your big, ole computer screen and tell me from 1000 miles away just what you really think of me like the big, tough man that you are, have at it. Not all of us need to convince everyone else of how strong our character is.

Now, I am finished. It's been fun having this exchange of wits and I'm tired of it. If you want to continue this, you can message me privately and we can continue discussing how much we dont like each other. I hope you do, because I much rather handle this that way, then keep having to deal with the annoyance of having you follow me around, making your little comments at all my posts, like a small dog nipping at my heels.

Edited to Add: Did I properly express my opinions of you in a way that you can read and understand? Was there any confusion on my part that I can clear up just for you? If so, please inform me when you make your next post that you can't be bothered to make.




alirous -> RE: Why did I get topped from the bottom? (7/25/2011 5:07:03 PM)

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HannahLynHeather -> RE: Why did I get topped from the bottom? (7/25/2011 7:13:47 PM)

well i'll be buggered on sunday! out of the mouths of fucking babes. [:D][:D][:D]




HannahLynHeather -> RE: Why did I get topped from the bottom? (7/25/2011 7:15:20 PM)

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To try and be nice.
don't fucking bother man, you suck at it as bad as i do.




HannahLynHeather -> RE: Why did I get topped from the bottom? (7/25/2011 7:26:39 PM)

poppycock??

POPPYCOCK??

bah! balderdash!

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Now, does that mean she can dominant everyone who agrees to that statement?

Hell no.
and that's exactly my point. she is a dominant woman, she gives off a dominant vibe, but she can't dominate everybody..only to those who get it. she has dominance to them.

see, i find you have WAY more fucking dominance than ladyp does, and syl eats the two of you combined before she even has fucking breakfast.

now assuming you guys are pretty much the way you come across on here, ladyp i'd meet with and be cool, you i'd meet and be weak kneed, but syl? i'm not getting within a hundred miles of that beautifully crazy bitch, because i'd be hard pressed to get up off my fucking belly after kissing her boots.

its like beauty. works the same fucking way.




BitaTruble -> RE: Why did I get topped from the bottom? (7/25/2011 8:43:52 PM)

fr

This discussion has moved into an interesting area..

In a John Venn universe Himself and I inhabit a set. That set includes only those things which we determine. In another set is everyone else and all those folks will determine their own set and who, how and what is included. Where we intersect/interact does not equal dominance or submission.. it's going to be vanilla. Not a bad or good thing, just not a D/s thing. If I "feel" dominance, then I would add those people to 'my' set. If I don't feel the power vibe then it's moot. Our interaction is/was and will remain strictly vanilla. Other people in other sets might feel a power vibe that I don't and would invite that power into 'their' set which wouldn't interact with my own.

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NuevaVida -> RE: Why did I get topped from the bottom? (7/25/2011 9:00:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

fr

This discussion has moved into an interesting area..

In a John Venn universe Himself and I inhabit a set. That set includes only those things which we determine. In another set is everyone else and all those folks will determine their own set and who, how and what is included. Where we intersect/interact does not equal dominance or submission.. it's going to be vanilla. Not a bad or good thing, just not a D/s thing. If I "feel" dominance, then I would add those people to 'my' set. If I don't feel the power vibe then it's moot. Our interaction is/was and will remain strictly vanilla. Other people in other sets might feel a power vibe that I don't and would invite that power into 'their' set which wouldn't interact with my own.

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Bingo.

I'll just tap you on the shoulder and ask you to make my point in one paragraph next time. LOL




domiguy -> RE: Why did I get topped from the bottom? (7/26/2011 7:33:24 AM)

poor bipolar chick....

she don't mean no harm
she just don't know
what else to do about it

Jane says




HannahLynHeather -> RE: Why did I get topped from the bottom? (7/26/2011 7:39:47 AM)

aw fuck domi. you were warned not to do the brown acid.




kalikshama -> RE: Why did I get topped from the bottom? (7/26/2011 6:19:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: alirous

you are all so dumb!! arguing who is the stupidest


My favorite first post ever!

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