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slvemike4u -> RE: After the shock, here come the crazies.... (7/25/2011 7:48:02 PM)

So you were saying something about "here come the crazies" Philo ? Next thing you know RO shows up.




zephyroftheNorth -> RE: After the shock, here come the crazies.... (7/25/2011 7:58:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Can I just go with condemning Beck as an asshole in general?  Though I wouldn't go with the Hitler Youth comparison, the whole "young whatevers" indoctrination camps certainly have an authoritarian, cultish scent about them.


Damn Rich, you've blown your cover as a conservative, better hide before the news gets out. [:D] That said I agree with you, Beck is an asshole in general.

damn I agree with you there goes MY credibility






Hillwilliam -> RE: After the shock, here come the crazies.... (7/25/2011 8:06:11 PM)

So, Beck is a brainless, unthinking asshole. What else is new?

As long as he can shill gold, he's happy.




TheHeretic -> RE: After the shock, here come the crazies.... (7/25/2011 8:11:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

damn I agree with you there goes MY credibility









It happens to everybody sooner or later, Zeph.  That's what makes me so damn dangerous.  [;)]




Owner59 -> RE: After the shock, here come the crazies.... (7/25/2011 9:33:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: philosophy

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/26/glenn-beck-norwegian-dead-hitler


...will all of the collar me posters join me in utterly and without reservation condemning Glenn Beck for this appalling comment?


beck and his ilk sell this poison to make their money,same as drug dealers selling poison to make their money.

Recently I was listening to a sports talk show when they mentioned some asshat athlete who was so harangued by the media and paparazzi that he likened himself to Ann Frank,......................... because he had to hide from them.<sound of the oxygen being sucked out of the room>.................

The sportscasters were young guys but not unworldly.The one guy said "as a rule,you shouldn`t make Holocaust references or bring it up unless you`re talking about the real one."

Which is good advice.The subject and it`s dark implications have been used and abused by a lot of jerk-offs, like beck.There`s a world class bigot using nazi references on another thread right now.It`s disgusting.

Firm,you`re wrong.As a rule,one shouldn`t make nazi references, even indirect ones.It`s to solemn a subject for jokes or trash talk.It cheapens the subject and disrespects the folks who suffered the actual nazi Holocaust.It`s also just fucking wrong.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

As a youngster, I was inducted into a something called "The Order Of The Arrow".

A secrete group(or cult,if you`re a dick) within a para-military organization called the Boy Scouts Of America.

After earning 35 merit badges(one for knot tying,yes ladies,knot tying,....)and the "militia-like" group`s highest rank,I could have been thought of as a leader in a cult-like organization,.....if that person was a total DICK,that is.

The cult references are pretty ugly and cowardly.Especially in light of what just happened.

Not sure if the problem isn`t with someone who sees a kid`s summer camp(like Hebrew summer-camps,sports-camp or Boy Scout Advanced Leadership Training camp) and thinks cult,......ewwwww!

I`m with philosophy.




BitaTruble -> RE: After the shock, here come the crazies.... (7/25/2011 9:49:33 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: philosophy

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/26/glenn-beck-norwegian-dead-hitler


...will all of the collar me posters join me in utterly and without reservation condemning Glenn Beck for this appalling comment?


My knee-jerk? He's a rapacious, putrid piece of rotted garbage and if he has a soul, it's probably dark, perhaps even evil and he doesn't deserve to live in his bag of skin. If he fell off the edge of the Universe and was heard no more, I think our species would be better for it. Hitler references about these children? Really? That's just a no and his hypocrisy apparently knows no bounds.

That said, I am a Constitutionalist and as such a firm believer in freedom of speech and will defend even a vile and salacious stump-fucker like Becks right to make such comments whether I may agree with the sentiment or not so while it pains me from the depths he has the 'right' to make them.. he doesn't, however, appear to have the brains *not* to make them.







snappykappy -> RE: After the shock, here come the crazies.... (7/25/2011 9:55:41 PM)

bita now dont hold it back tell us what you are really feeling [image][/image]




Owner59 -> RE: After the shock, here come the crazies.... (7/25/2011 9:58:56 PM)

[:D]




TheHeretic -> RE: After the shock, here come the crazies.... (7/25/2011 10:03:55 PM)

You'll have to refresh my memory here, O59.  Exactly which political/religious/cultural organization for adults, are the Boy Scouts the youth wing of?





Owner59 -> RE: After the shock, here come the crazies.... (7/25/2011 10:41:44 PM)



Does that matter at all, to dicks?

This reminds me of the 1st tastes of irrational con-blather about President Obama "indoctrinating our youth" or school kids.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gf9oeIsdZg



Do you remember that stupidity,rich?




popeye1250 -> RE: After the shock, here come the crazies.... (7/25/2011 11:38:02 PM)

You know, if I was playing a word association game and someone said the words, "trunk, big, gray, peanuts, zoo," I don't know about the Lefties out there but I'd be thinking "Elephant."
Sheesh, I wonder what they'd be thinking? "A big gray truck going to the zoo?"
"Peanuts? I got it, Jimmy Carter!!!"
"Zoo? Trunk? Hmmm, my aunt is moving to the zoo?"
"RIGHT WING CHRISTIAN!"
"FOX SUCKS! "please please!"
"I'm going to get a haircut on thursday?"
Now, if say I was playing a word association game with,....oh,.....I dunno.....Bill Maher say... and I started out with the words, "youth",  "blond" "camps" "political," "marching", "uniforms," what do you think he'd be thinking being half Jewish and all?
When I first heard this the thing that came to mind immediately was a vision of Hitler youth groups marching in short pants and white shirts with little swazstickas on them in the 1930's. And it only took two of those words, "youth" and "camps." Then you add in "marching" and "political" and the psychological rohrsatch test becomes clear.

I wonder what the Lefties would be thinking if they were presented with those words?
"FOX SUCKS! pleeease! pleeeeease!"
"Workers of the world, UNITE!"
"A big gray Buick with a bag of peanuts in the back seat? No, that was the last one!"
"National Socialists know how to have fun too?"

And when a muslim terrorists blows something up or tries to set a bomb off on a plane the Lefties try to prevent everyone from mentioning "islam" or "muslim.
Now, with this incident in Norway the words "RIGHT WING CHRISTIAN!" was plastered all over the News!
Don't you think that that is just a little hypocritical? And at the least, cowardly.
An hour later the wacko Lefties were in Yahoo News saying that this was "Israel's" fault or "the Mossad did it." They didn't even wait for "the shock" to set in!
What is it, are the Lefties afraid of muslims or what? Is it the "Stockholm Syndrome?"
Is it like Halloween when you don't have to be afraid of the monster because you become the monster when you put the mask on??
I sense fear there.
We don't need "camps" in the U.S., every once in a while "political correctness" will pop up it's evil head like a snake out of a whole in the ground.




zephyroftheNorth -> RE: After the shock, here come the crazies.... (7/26/2011 3:03:29 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

quote:

ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

damn I agree with you there goes MY credibility









It happens to everybody sooner or later, Zeph.  That's what makes me so damn dangerous.  [;)]


~looks around~ Just don't tell anyone okay Rich?




LadyConstanze -> RE: After the shock, here come the crazies.... (7/26/2011 3:26:38 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Can I just go with condemning Beck as an asshole in general?  Though I wouldn't go with the Hitler Youth comparison, the whole "young whatevers" indoctrination camps certainly have an authoritarian, cultish scent about them.



But then you could also say that about religious youth camps and most major religions also have it. The youth camps are actually not very much for indoctrinating the youngsters, it's more organizing games, outdoor activities and such and giving the kids a chance to mingle with other kids, some companies do that for the offspring of their employees, in most of the cases you'll find that it's just a summer camp for kids where the parents don't have to worry that they'll be unsupervised and might drink, smoke or engage in dangerous activities. As a kid my parents sent me to some camps run by the Catholic church, apart from going to mass on Sunday there was no religious indoctrination, we learned stuff like building tree houses, played ball games, scavenger hunts, learned about the flora and fauna and that basically was it. All it did for me was to manifest a thorough dislike for camping.




Fightdirecto -> RE: After the shock, here come the crazies.... (7/26/2011 3:58:29 AM)

One sad thing about human nature is that whenever someone is a victim of a violent crime, someone else (in this case Beck) will say, directly or by implication, "the victim brought it on themselves". Beck's implication that the people at the camp resembled Hitler Youth presents an image that they "got what they deserved". Similar to when someone blames a rape victim for her own rape by saying "She shouldn't have been out in public wearing so short a miniskirt".





Real0ne -> RE: After the shock, here come the crazies.... (7/26/2011 4:05:38 AM)

the whole ordeal was strictly political.

thou shalt not befriend the palestinians.






thishereboi -> RE: After the shock, here come the crazies.... (7/26/2011 4:06:02 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Fightdirecto

One sad thing about human nature is that whenever someone is a victim of a violent crime, someone else (in this case Beck) will say, directly or by implication, "the victim brought it on themselves". Beck's implication that the people at the camp resembled Hitler Youth presents an image that they "got what they deserved". Similar to when someone blames a rape victim for her own rape by saying "She shouldn't have been out in public wearing so short a miniskirt".




What is even sadder to me is the ones like you who come along and twist what they say. Now I will admit that Beck is an idiot and I wouldn't waste my time watching him, but he never suggested that the kids deserved this.




Real0ne -> RE: After the shock, here come the crazies.... (7/26/2011 4:16:03 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

quote:

ORIGINAL: philosophy

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/26/glenn-beck-norwegian-dead-hitler


...will all of the collar me posters join me in utterly and without reservation condemning Glenn Beck for this appalling comment?


beck and his ilk sell this poison to make their money,same as drug dealers selling poison to make their money.

How's change working for ya pal?


Recently I was listening to a sports talk show when they mentioned some asshat athlete who was so harangued by the media and paparazzi that he likened himself to Ann Frank,......................... because he had to hide from them.<sound of the oxygen being sucked out of the room>.................

The sportscasters were young guys but not unworldly.The one guy said "as a rule,you shouldn`t make Holocaust references or bring it up unless you`re talking about the real one."

burnt offerings? 

Oh you mean genocide!  I confess that I have difficulty with syntax terrorist words.  My bad I thought you meant the real one LOL


Which is good advice.The subject and it`s dark implications have been used and abused (cough) by a lot of jerk-offs, like beck.There`s a world class bigot using nazi references on another thread right now.It`s disgusting.

Like you just did?


Firm,you`re wrong.As a rule,one shouldn`t make nazi references, even indirect ones.It`s to solemn a subject for jokes or trash talk.It cheapens the subject and disrespects the folks who suffered the actual nazi Holocaust.It`s also just fucking wrong.

In fact its so solemn its on the NOT free speech list!

Now that is some serious fucking solemn.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

As a youngster, I was inducted into a something called "The Order Of The Arrow".

A secrete group(or cult,if you`re a dick) within a para-military organization called the Boy Scouts Of America.

After earning 35 merit badges(one for knot tying,yes ladies,knot tying,....)and the "militia-like" group`s highest rank,I could have been thought of as a leader in a cult-like organization,.....if that person was a total DICK,that is.

The cult references are pretty ugly and cowardly.Especially in light of what just happened.

Not sure if the problem isn`t with someone who sees a kid`s summer camp(like Hebrew summer-camps,sports-camp or Boy Scout Advanced Leadership Training camp) and thinks cult,......ewwwww!

I`m with philosophy.


isnt that what they had in afghanastan?




Real0ne -> RE: After the shock, here come the crazies.... (7/26/2011 4:18:10 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

So you were saying something about "here come the crazies" Philo ? Next thing you know RO shows up.


on the contrary I posted after you




Real0ne -> RE: After the shock, here come the crazies.... (7/26/2011 4:26:11 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

quote:

ORIGINAL: philosophy

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/26/glenn-beck-norwegian-dead-hitler


...will all of the collar me posters join me in utterly and without reservation condemning Glenn Beck for this appalling comment?


My knee-jerk? He's a rapacious, putrid piece of rotted garbage and if he has a soul, it's probably dark, perhaps even evil and he doesn't deserve to live in his bag of skin. If he fell off the edge of the Universe and was heard no more, I think our species would be better for it. Hitler references about these children? Really? That's just a no and his hypocrisy apparently knows no bounds.

That said, I am a Constitutionalist and as such a firm believer in freedom of speech and will defend even a vile and salacious stump-fucker like Becks right to make such comments whether I may agree with the sentiment or not so while it pains me from the depths he has the 'right' to make them.. he doesn't, however, appear to have the brains *not* to make them.






now there is the highest order oxymoron said in this century.  should be in the guiness book of world records of cognitive dissonance.






FirmhandKY -> RE: After the shock, here come the crazies.... (7/26/2011 4:29:49 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

Which is good advice.The subject and it`s dark implications have been used and abused by a lot of jerk-offs, like beck.There`s a world class bigot using nazi references on another thread right now.It`s disgusting.

Firm,you`re wrong.As a rule,one shouldn`t make nazi references, even indirect ones.It`s to solemn a subject for jokes or trash talk.It cheapens the subject and disrespects the folks who suffered the actual nazi Holocaust.It`s also just fucking wrong.


Pelosi calls healthcare opponents NAZIS

***

The Bush Years

Images of George Bush with a Hitler mustache and a Nazi uniform was everywhere at swastika-choked marches and rallies. "Stop the Fourth Reich-Visualize Nuremburg," said one sign at a Hollywood march. "The Fuhrer already in his bunker," said another. Lots of Nazi regalia appeared at protests in Pelosi's San Francisco as well.

On far-left Internet sites, where basic Bush-Is-Hitler commentary became too familiar to attract attention, Bush aides were quickly assigned Nazi roles; Tom Ridge was the new Himmler and Colin Powell became Nazi Foreign Minister Joachim von Ribbentrop; Ari Fleisher, Karen Hughes and Karl Rove were all Josef Goebbels figures. Some thought Vice President Cheney was the most important Hitler figure - he commands "storm-trooper legions," said famous crackpot Lyndon LaRouche.

One fevered lefty connected Bush to Nero as well as Hitler, saying "Nero burned Rome, Hitler burned the Reichstag and Bush burned the World Trade Center."

An even more inventive commenter managed to link Rove to Josef Mengele, the depraved Nazi doctor nicknamed the Angel of Death: "Bush made up stories about John McCain, just as Josef Mengele conducted medical experiments on children in Auschwitz." What?

Donald Rumsfeld was the new Rommel. The Action Coalition of Taos, New Mexico, however, thought Rumsfeld was the real Hitler, since, like Adolf, he had a mountain retreat. In an op-ed published in Florida, Air Force veteran Douglas Herman, disagreed, saying Rumsfeld was more like Goering, because both men had been fighter pilots.

Mainstream commentary featured Nazi references too. Both Senator Robert Byrd and billionaire Democrat George Soros said Bush reminded them of Herman Goering.

During the 2004 presidential campaign, Al Gore used the term "brownshirts" (Nazi street thugs) to refer to Republican computer teams assigned to respond to criticism of Bush and the Iraq war.

Vanity Fair magazine nominated Richard Perle for the Goebbels role, running photos of both men under the headline "Separated at Birth?"

New York Times columnist Frank Rich managed to work in a reference to a famous Nazi filmmaker. He said a Showtime program on 9/11 was so favorable to Bush that it is "best viewed as a fitting memorial to Leni Riefenstahl."

The Rev. Andrew Greeley, sociologist and novelist, depicted Bush as a Hitler figure who carried American over to "the dark side."

Federal appeals judge Guido Calabresi offered a comparatively mild Nazi reference, saying the Bush's rise to power was reminiscent of the rise of Hitler and Mussolini, with the Supreme Court pushing him into the presidency with the Bush v. Gore decision.

Bush reminded the left of non-Nazi villains as well. He was depicted as Attila the Hun, serial killer Ted Bundy, Mussolini, Ahab, Hannibal Lecter, the Anti-Christ and Frankenstein's monster (on the cover of the British edition of book by New York Times columnist Paul Krugman).
***


[image]http://www.thomasalbert.com/politics/protest/bush_hitler.jpg[/image]

***

I could find more, easily ... but why bother?

Firm




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