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RE: Racism alive and doing well in the south - 7/27/2011 8:58:25 AM   
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RE: Racism alive and doing well in the south - 7/27/2011 9:00:04 AM   
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RE: Racism alive and doing well in the south - 7/27/2011 9:01:47 AM   
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RE: Racism alive and doing well in the south - 7/27/2011 9:05:14 AM   
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RE: Racism alive and doing well in the south - 7/27/2011 9:26:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD

I have spent about half my life in the midwest and half in the south.  I heard the n word a lot more up north than here.  

Words?
Possibly.WTFKs what circles you run in.

Acts?

No way.

As soon as a paper got a hold of such a thing,those involved would be chastised and run out`a town.

This kind of ACT, is pretty common in the south because it`s tolerated.

Maybe this is why the media is branded as "liberal"by cons.Cons seem to have a hard time with race issues.

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RE: Racism alive and doing well in the south - 7/27/2011 10:02:09 AM   
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RE: Racism alive and doing well in the south - 7/27/2011 10:20:08 AM   
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Senator Robert Byrd, when a young man, was a member of the Ku Klux Klan. Despite the fact that he publically renounced the Klan and it’s doctrines and worked for civil rights for most of his later life, because he had once been a Klansman and later became a leader of the Democratic Party - all Democrats are white supremacist racists and are in 2011 (to quote popeye1250 from Page 2 of this discussion) “The Party of the Klan”?

President Abraham Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation during the American Civil War over a hundred years ago. Despite the fact that many white supremacist racists left the Democratic Party in 1948, formed the Dixiecrat Party and later joined the Republican Party and achieved positions of leadership within the Republican Party (i.e. Strom Thurmond) – all 2011 Republicans are totally unprejudiced and unbiased and love all Americans who are Black, Hispanic, Asian, gay, bi-sexual, transgendered, openly kinky, non-Protestant Christian or atheist?

Anti-Bush protestors called President Bush and Vice-President Cheney “Nazis” - so calling President Obama a “Kenyan”, a “baboon”, a “closet Muslim” and a "half-White usurper of the Presidency" is acceptable?

The late writer Molly Ivans called President George Bush “Shrub” - so calling President Barack Obama “Obumma” is acceptable?

It is a documented historic fact that, in the 1920s, the state of Indiana had the largest membership of Ku Klux Klansman in the United States – but does that mean that the Klansmen who bombed the 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham, Alabama in 1963 killing several black children are somehow not as guilty of murder - because the bombing wasn’t in Indiana?

In Jasper Texas a Black man, James Byrd, Jr., was dragged behind a truck by three White Men and died – but that’s okay because some Black man in Harlem called a White man a “honkey” last week?

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RE: Racism alive and doing well in the south - 7/27/2011 10:36:22 AM   
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I dated a black woman a couple of years ago (in Alabama)  the only people who gave us any guff were black.

Same with me in miami.

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RE: Racism alive and doing well in the south - 7/27/2011 10:39:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD

I have spent about half my life in the midwest and half in the south.  I heard the n word a lot more up north than here.  

Words?
Possibly.WTFKs what circles you run in.

Acts?

No way.

As soon as a paper got a hold of such a thing,those involved would be chastised and run out`a town.

This kind of ACT, is pretty common in the south because it`s tolerated.

Maybe this is why the media is branded as "liberal"by cons.Cons seem to have a hard time with race issues.

Owner, I have to say he has a point there. I have been and lived all over the country and I see more overt racism in the midwest and northeast than the south the last 25-30 years. (miami is the absolute worst though I think it's because instead of 2-3 groups, there are 25-30 that all hate each other)

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RE: Racism alive and doing well in the south - 7/27/2011 11:40:06 AM   
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Both the words and the acts go on in every part of North America, and even occur in the New Jersey paradise, too.







I agree,just not in public view.Or done with code words.The anti-mosquer`s true intent wasn`t public safety or in good will.They were just haters using a different angle.

We had a problem some years ago with our state police targeting black people.The then republican governor started an investigation and it was found to be true,putting the entire force on years of federal oversight,which I think just ended.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2008/04/10_years_after_trooper_racial.html

Before the scandal,it was common knowledge that black drivers were being singled out.It was referred to as DWB.....driving while black.

Once I saw a bumper sticker right after saying "investigate drug dealers and not the state police".

She was a well fed, kinda over-weight white women with nice clothes, driving a new full-sized Suburban, walking into a nail salon.


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RE: Racism alive and doing well in the south - 7/27/2011 12:39:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Owner59


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD

I have spent about half my life in the midwest and half in the south.  I heard the n word a lot more up north than here.  

Words?
Possibly.WTFKs what circles you run in.

Acts?

No way.

As soon as a paper got a hold of such a thing,those involved would be chastised and run out`a town.

This kind of ACT, is pretty common in the south because it`s tolerated.

Maybe this is why the media is branded as "liberal"by cons.Cons seem to have a hard time with race issues.



Tell it, brother!

Just like any other tent preacher.


http://www.komonews.com/news/local/114845914.html

http://www.thegrio.com/news/black-cops-allege-racial-discrimination-in-seattle-battery-case.php

http://www.therainbowcollective.com/?p=2242


Tell it, brother!

The majority of racial supremacists live in CA or WA or MT or IN, but don't let that disturb the good fairy tale going there.

Those guys were 'run out of town,' huh? Even though it keeps happening decade after decade. And fact of the matter is, I heard the "N" word more often in several visits to IL than I did in my whole life elsewise in the South, and in my line of work had many visiting from other parts of the country that said this same word because they thought they were in 'safe territory' for that purpose. Not an easy thing letting others down that 'no, it's NOT OK' when they are the ones paying you.


Where was that Rodney King thing again?

And which school district was it that needed police escort for an entire year after the school busing ruling, Charlotte or Boston?

All those guys were just "run outta town," huh?

Why are all the aforementioned still there, then?


Take your time there, you have quite a bit of catching up to do.



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RE: Racism alive and doing well in the south - 7/27/2011 12:51:22 PM   
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RE: Racism alive and doing well in the south - 7/27/2011 3:20:08 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Fightdirecto

I do love the “false equivalency” arguments (taking two different things and claiming they are exactly the same to justify an action or position):

Senator Robert Byrd, when a young man, was a member of the Ku Klux Klan. Despite the fact that he publically renounced the Klan and it’s doctrines and worked for civil rights for most of his later life, because he had once been a Klansman and later became a leader of the Democratic Party -


Of course, it didn't stop him from using the word nigger of the floor of The United States Senate

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RE: Racism alive and doing well in the south - 7/27/2011 3:23:42 PM   
Owner59


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RE: Racism alive and doing well in the south - 7/27/2011 3:33:23 PM   
Owner59


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ORIGINAL: Edwynn



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ORIGINAL: Owner59


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD

I have spent about half my life in the midwest and half in the south.  I heard the n word a lot more up north than here.  

Words?
Possibly.WTFKs what circles you run in.

Acts?

No way.

As soon as a paper got a hold of such a thing,those involved would be chastised and run out`a town.

This kind of ACT, is pretty common in the south because it`s tolerated.

Maybe this is why the media is branded as "liberal"by cons.Cons seem to have a hard time with race issues.



Tell it, brother!

Just like any other tent preacher.


http://www.komonews.com/news/local/114845914.html

http://www.thegrio.com/news/black-cops-allege-racial-discrimination-in-seattle-battery-case.php

http://www.therainbowcollective.com/?p=2242


Tell it, brother!

The majority of racial supremacists live in CA or WA or MT or IN, but don't let that disturb the good fairy tale going there.

Those guys were 'run out of town,' huh? Even though it keeps happening decade after decade. And fact of the matter is, I heard the "N" word more often in several visits to IL than I did in my whole life elsewise in the South, and in my line of work had many visiting from other parts of the country that said this same word because they thought they were in 'safe territory' for that purpose. Not an easy thing letting others down that 'no, it's NOT OK' when they are the ones paying you.


Where was that Rodney King thing again?

And which school district was it that needed police escort for an entire year after the school busing ruling, Charlotte or Boston?

All those guys were just "run outta town," huh?

Why are all the aforementioned still there, then?


Take your time there, you have quite a bit of catching up to do.




Yup,there also seems to be a lot of separatists as well in the north west.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl6T-H1rnGQ

The militia groups are popular there too.

I think I already said that the northeath has it`s share.

But like in the north-west,it`s on the DL(down-low).

This act, that`s the subject of the OP,was public and done by town leaders.

Not sure I want to get into how comparatively awful all of these awful things are.Like comparing rape to murder.It`s all horrible.


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RE: Racism alive and doing well in the south - 7/27/2011 3:33:32 PM   
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Why are conservatives getting so defensive?


Jeeshhh!


Conservatives and liberals alike are defensive about lies. Libs just dont bother to call you on yours.

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RE: Racism alive and doing well in the south - 7/27/2011 3:39:50 PM   
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RE: Racism alive and doing well in the south - 7/27/2011 3:46:46 PM   
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Why are conservatives getting so defensive?


Jeeshhh!



Right.

Attack someone else or an entire region with groundless accusations, then accuse them of being 'conservative' or 'defensive' when facts come into play. Glad that works for you.






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RE: Racism alive and doing well in the south - 7/27/2011 3:49:01 PM   
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RE: Racism alive and doing well in the south - 7/27/2011 3:54:31 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

Why are conservatives getting so defensive?


Jeeshhh!


Conservatives and liberals alike are defensive about lies. Libs just dont bother to call you on yours.



Aside from the fact that other than thishereboi, I hardly recall any self-described 'conservative' here contradicting another, whereas putative 'liberals' disagree 50 times a day. This does not let anyone off the hook regarding fundamental comprehension skills, or lack thereof.

Sorry, but some of us (too few, as it stands) are inclined to thoughtful consideration and empiricism here, and no apologies forthcoming from this corner if that rankles the dearly held to breast oversimplification that blows everybody else's skirt up.





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