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GreedyTop -> RE: A SITE THAT DOESN'T FOLLOW ITS OWN PRIVACY POLICY (7/26/2011 12:32:23 PM)

well,. duh!

how could I not adore someone that lays out a smackdown so well??

*puddle*

*grins*




angelikaJ -> RE: A SITE THAT DOESN'T FOLLOW ITS OWN PRIVACY POLICY (7/26/2011 12:35:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ModeratorOne


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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

*adores M1*



Yay! Mod Love for me!



From me too.




Epytropos -> RE: A SITE THAT DOESN'T FOLLOW ITS OWN PRIVACY POLICY (7/26/2011 12:35:57 PM)

So we still have no idea how she came to be followed in the first place? I mean obviously you're not tracking IPs to find twitter accounts because even if you wanted to you'd need twitter to be complicit in a scheme which opens them to massive liability for little or no gain, but I DO have to wonder how it came to be...




myotherself -> RE: A SITE THAT DOESN'T FOLLOW ITS OWN PRIVACY POLICY (7/26/2011 12:49:56 PM)

I'm assuming that the OP is following a fellow PR/Marketing person who is also involved in fetish and/or bdsm. The search by the site bods found the other person and looked who they were following...and found the OP.





windchymes -> RE: A SITE THAT DOESN'T FOLLOW ITS OWN PRIVACY POLICY (7/26/2011 12:52:40 PM)

I am not on Twitter, but when I joined Facebook, I was amazed at the number of "friends of friends of friends" that appeared for my consideration to add to my friends list. If you exchange an email from hotmail or gmail or yahoo, for example, with anyone who has exchanged an email with someone else who exchanged an email with some one who had one of the search words anywhere connected with them, then it might appear in your list of possible "friends", no matter how remote they might be.

There is actually someone in this thread who appeared on that possible friends list under their real name, and I recognized it because of the photo :) But, since I keep my facebook & collarme lives as separate as I can, I never acknowledged it. But's it's there.

Kinda like STD's.....like you're having sex with everyone your partner ever had sex with, as well as anyone THEY had sex with, and so on.....

Therefore, I don't find it surprising at all that Twitter could hook you up with someone who had, say, the word "fetish" connected in their profile that were somehow connected to you. I mean, c'mon....."1goddess4life", and there's no connection with "fetish" anywhere anyhow??? Please. Something flagged you somewhere.

edited because I don't know where these extraneous words come from.....




HannahLynHeather -> RE: A SITE THAT DOESN'T FOLLOW ITS OWN PRIVACY POLICY (7/26/2011 12:55:49 PM)

i bet she's tweeted about it.




DavidLee44UK -> RE: A SITE THAT DOESN'T FOLLOW ITS OWN PRIVACY POLICY (7/26/2011 12:59:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: windchymes

I am not on Twitter, but when I joined Facebook, I was amazed at the number of "friends of friends of friends" that appeared for my consideration to add to my friends list. If you exchange an email from hotmail or gmail or yahoo, for example, with anyone who has exchanged an email with someone else who exchanged an email with some one who had one of the search words anywhere connected with them, then it might appear in your list of possible "friends", no matter how remote they might be.

There is actually someone in this thread who appeared on that possible friends list under their real name, and I recognized it because of the photo :) But, since I keep my facebook & collarme lives as separate as I can, I never acknowledged it. But's it's there.

Kinda like STD's.....like you're having sex with everyone your partner ever had sex with, as well as anyone THEY had sex with, and so on.....

Therefore, I don't find it surprising at all that Twitter could hook you up with someone who had, say, the word "fetish" connected in their profile that them were somehow connected to you. I mean, c'mon....."1goddess4life", and there's no connection with "fetish" anywhere anyhow??? Please. Something flagged you somewhere.


its what i call the brady bunch affect

you follow four then another four and so on

everyday you can follow 10% your total follwers anymore its flagged for spamming

your amount followers is irrelevant its who you socialise/chat with




LadyConstanze -> RE: A SITE THAT DOESN'T FOLLOW ITS OWN PRIVACY POLICY (7/26/2011 1:01:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: 1Goddess4Life

Wow, talk about ignorance by some of you. I have worked in technology for 15 years. I KNOW what's possible and a lot of it is black hat. It's OK, wait 'til it happens to you.


Sorry, my other half is working in IT, on secure hosting, I ran it past him and he said the same, that unless your system is breached there's no way that CM would have access to an email or IP you signed up with on Twitter, also from my own experience with Twitter, you have to sign up to follow somebody, of course bots can follow you but you can block them. Twitter doesn't share IPs unless there is LE involved.

Look, I work in PR too and I get the oddest people following the business account, you might have noticed that some abbreviations that are used in PR and marketing are the same as certain BDSM terms (personally it always gives me a giggle) so it could simply be that it got picked up like that.




SylvereApLeanan -> RE: A SITE THAT DOESN'T FOLLOW ITS OWN PRIVACY POLICY (7/26/2011 1:06:56 PM)

Since she's involved in marketing and PR, and M1 has stated the CM account follows people who are involved with marketing/PR, it's very likely that Twitter recommended her based on the interests listed in her Twitter profile.  The CM staff would have no way of knowing she was also a CM user who would feel her privacy was compromised by the follow. 
 
Of course, it's pretty silly to get upset because someone follows you.  Twitter is social media and often used by companies to build buzz around their products or services.  The whole point is to be seen and followed by as many people as possible.  Her business reputation will not be affected by who is following her, only the people she's following.  The fact that she's here screaming about it just proves she doesn't understand social media, which leads me to believe she either isn't really in marketing or isn't very good at it.




mnottertail -> RE: A SITE THAT DOESN'T FOLLOW ITS OWN PRIVACY POLICY (7/26/2011 1:08:53 PM)

Heyyyyyyy.........are you following me around?




Charnegui -> RE: A SITE THAT DOESN'T FOLLOW ITS OWN PRIVACY POLICY (7/26/2011 1:09:09 PM)

and with every letter she writes, she reveals more and more about herself.....

Hey, I think even I can find her now *grinning* and I'm blonde or blunt...




GreedyTop -> RE: A SITE THAT DOESN'T FOLLOW ITS OWN PRIVACY POLICY (7/26/2011 1:14:30 PM)

haz a sad. I haz nobody following me from here on my twitter

(of course, I dont think I hve logged into twitter at any point in the last 6 months....)

*gigglesnort*




LadyConstanze -> RE: A SITE THAT DOESN'T FOLLOW ITS OWN PRIVACY POLICY (7/26/2011 1:16:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SylvereApLeanan

Since she's involved in marketing and PR, and M1 has stated the CM account follows people who are involved with marketing/PR, it's very likely that Twitter recommended her based on the interests listed in her Twitter profile.  The CM staff would have no way of knowing she was also a CM user who would feel her privacy was compromised by the follow. 
 
Of course, it's pretty silly to get upset because someone follows you.  Twitter is social media and often used by companies to build buzz around their products or services.  The whole point is to be seen and followed by as many people as possible.  Her business reputation will not be affected by who is following her, only the people she's following.  The fact that she's here screaming about it just proves she doesn't understand social media, which leads me to believe she either isn't really in marketing or isn't very good at it.


I have blocked some accounts who followed because I was uncomfy with them (maybe I'm overly careful when it comes to work), social media is a part of PR but you'd be amazed how many companies and PR people don't understand social media. I think it's just an overly panicky reaction to something that's essentially harmless.




ModeratorOne -> RE: A SITE THAT DOESN'T FOLLOW ITS OWN PRIVACY POLICY (7/26/2011 1:20:04 PM)

The way Twitter works is that when you click 'follow' on someone it suggests other people who have similar profile descriptions you may be interested in following.

These are the serches we have recently done on twitter: Collarme, BDSM, Tech, San Jose, and Fetish. We had some Kinky marketing professionals come up, and we did follow them (to see who we are following please view our twitter account and click "following" on our page) and we think she was connected to someone who we followed as a result of our search and twitter recommended her. As we don't actually know who she is on twitter, we can't determine with any real accuracy which search result connected us to her.




LadyConstanze -> RE: A SITE THAT DOESN'T FOLLOW ITS OWN PRIVACY POLICY (7/26/2011 1:26:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ModeratorOne

The way Twitter works is that when you click 'follow' on someone it suggests other people who have similar profile descriptions you may be interested in following.

These are the serches we have recently done on twitter: Collarme, BDSM, Tech, San Jose, and Fetish. We had some Kinky marketing professionals come up, and we did follow them (to see who we are following please view our twitter account and click "following" on our page) and we think she was connected to someone who we followed as a result of our search and twitter recommended her. As we don't actually know who she is on twitter, we can't determine with any real accuracy which search result connected us to her.


It's very easy for her and her friends to block you from following her, my guess here is that some of the people you follow are in PR, there are some terms that are really quite the same than some terms (abbreviations) used in BDSM, I would think that the system just picked up the similarities and suggested that they might be of interest to you without actually looking at the context.

Just make sure that you don't start following a bunch of therapists, because CBT is also cognitive behavioral therapy...




DavidLee44UK -> RE: A SITE THAT DOESN'T FOLLOW ITS OWN PRIVACY POLICY (7/26/2011 1:26:53 PM)

lol just looked her profile shes using it and excuse to get peoples tel numbers now so its only way she can tell if there real and thedn charge a fee

me thinks its a windup




HannahLynHeather -> RE: A SITE THAT DOESN'T FOLLOW ITS OWN PRIVACY POLICY (7/26/2011 1:27:45 PM)

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which leads me to believe she either isn't really in marketing or isn't very good at it.
i'm incline to the former. she said she's been in tech for 15 years so knows all about the secret ways these impossible things can be done, AND she said she's been in marketing for 25 years. that makes 40 years, not too fucking shabby for a 48 year old, eh? [:D]




LadyConstanze -> RE: A SITE THAT DOESN'T FOLLOW ITS OWN PRIVACY POLICY (7/26/2011 1:34:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather

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which leads me to believe she either isn't really in marketing or isn't very good at it.
i'm incline to the former. she said she's been in tech for 15 years so knows all about the secret ways these impossible things can be done, AND she said she's been in marketing for 25 years. that makes 40 years, not too fucking shabby for a 48 year old, eh? [:D]


Have you considered that things do cross over quite a bit so out of the 25 years in marketing, she could have dealt with tech marketing for 15 years and you can't really market something you know jack shit about.

Getting the IP address from an email is easy, any idiot can do that, but having an IP and getting all emails attached to it or originating from it, you need a lot more - I guess your systems admin could do that simply by screening your history, Google can do it, LE can do it if you break enough laws or they believe there is a reason to keep an eye on you, I seriously doubt CM can do it.




kalikshama -> RE: A SITE THAT DOESN'T FOLLOW ITS OWN PRIVACY POLICY (7/26/2011 1:37:28 PM)

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The fact that she's here screaming about it just proves she doesn't understand social media, which leads me to believe she either isn't really in marketing or isn't very good at it.


Or she's just trolling for the site listed in her profile.




SylvereApLeanan -> RE: A SITE THAT DOESN'T FOLLOW ITS OWN PRIVACY POLICY (7/26/2011 1:49:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
you'd be amazed how many companies and PR people don't understand social media.


Actually, I wouldn't.  When I started looking into how to promote my writing, social media was on the list of things I researched.  Soooo many of the articles I read talked about how many marketing people and/or businesses don't understand how to use Twitter and other forms of social media or don't understand how to use them to the best advantage without becoming annoying. 
 
IF she's actually in marketing (big if), her lack of comprehension supports my statement that she's probably not very good at what she does.  If a layperson like me can grasp the basics of social media marketing, then she should be able to understand it.  The fact that she doesn't casts aspersions on her competence, IMO.  Never mind her unprofessional conduct in handling the matter. 




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