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RE: Movies recorded on a DVR are copywrited? - 8/1/2011 6:00:01 AM   
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We need to open more jails for these pirates!   They are ruining civilization!     HAAAAAAAAAAAA

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RE: Movies recorded on a DVR are copywrited? - 8/1/2011 6:24:34 AM   
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Angel,

Forgive my switching the order of the last paragraph and sentence but there are a few other things:

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ORIGINAL: barelynangel
Anything else angelikaJ?

There is a lot going on in this thread of which i can comment upon.  You don't have to like it.  You can apologize to her, but i don't have to because i am not telling her anything that is wrong and i am not going to advocate her illegally copying and distributing movies or believing that she can do an endrun around the TOS and Agreements so she can have movies for free instead of purchasing them through the proper venues. 


angel


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ORIGINAL: barelynangel

Well fuck DBG did you BOTHER to read your Customer Agreement and TOS:

NOW unless if i have completely misinterpreted these Sections and what they mean by THIRD PARTY CONTENT when it clearly identifies same as "televised programs," DIRECTV has a very clear policy on reproducing and redistributing etc.   This means that unless the program you are copying onto a DVD falls under "fair use" or hell i will even give you a written persmission for every show you copy to DVD indicating that you can, what you are doing is ILLEGAL!!!  AND in violation of the company's polies and customer agreements.

You are so desperate to get something without buying it and arguing what you are doing is legal and your company LETS you do it, that you don't bother to read the agreement?

angel


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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

Fair Use, is by definition, Legal. Non-commercial Home Use Only has long been considered as Fair Use.


Panda tried explaining it earlier. dbg only made 1 personal copy. She obtained that copy through a service that she is paying for as opposed to stealing it off the internet.
Sounds like Fair Use to me, which is legal.

I apologised to dbg for 2 reasons.
1) One of my responses contained a statement that was unkind.
2) I admit I don't know everything.

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ORIGINAL: barelynangel

So i know you like to get passive aggressive snarky with me

Anything else angelikaJ?

angel


That is projection on your part.

You are the one who 'yells' in your posts, and often writes them in such a way as to belittle people; to condescend. That may not be your intention but it is how they come across, and I am not the first person to mention it.

I want to remind you of something: there is something that some posters do with your nic either knowingly or not that bothers you. I read how you preferred to be called back when you posted it in your sig and I read when you asked posters not to in posts.
I have never called you by that other name, unless it was by accident before I was aware of your preference.



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RE: Movies recorded on a DVR are copywrited? - 8/1/2011 9:22:38 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
OK, you might already know. As such you might not be saying thanks. I will describe it. Try not to let it bother you too muck lol.

You need to watch someting that is a wide angle shot and the camera pans slowly. Now realize movie cameras can use high speed shutters (which matters) as well as a small aperature to gain more depth of focussed field. On such a scene, in daylight is when you see it. Carefully watch the subject of the shot, usually in the foreground, and as the camera pans watch the background at the same time. The timing is off, in some cases it is choppy like a streaming video is sometimes. It is important to note that the subject usually in the foreground does not "stick" or chop up like the background does.

Can't say I have noticed but I'll look out for it. I wonder could that be something to do with progressive scanning.

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A Bluray might not do this. It depends on if, with the greater storage capacity they decided to use more faithful compression schemes that don't show this anomoly, or to use it for more data. In fact it probably varies from one Bluray disk to another. I just don't know because there is no real reason for me to research it.

The good thing about blu-Ray is the 25 GB single layer capacity which is five+ times greater than DVD. With HD pictures typically being four times the size it might mean less punative compression rates.

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I used to be interested in that shit until I realized that I could never put the knowledge to use. For example you probably didn't know the the original CDs could have been recorded in true discrete four channel audio. Later I realized why they never used it. It would take totally different hardware as well as CDs for consumer use. By the time they hit the market four channel sound was pretty much dead. In fact your modern "Dolby" surround when set to simply "surround" is actually matrix surround dating back to the 1970s. I can prove it if necessary. Just more useless knowledge.

Yeah four channel was pretty much dead by then. The old Quad systems from 1970 were a complete failure. I remember reading that CD also had the option of a four channel capacity when I was reading literature on Ambisonics which is a very different four channel surround sound system. Its technically better than standard multichannel systems which differ in having a one channel to one speaker arrangement, and it can also resolve height information. However it never took off and wasn't even included with DVD specifications.

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And they worked hard on the recording scheme for CDs with a goal. The CD is the diameter it is because they wanted in dash automobile CD players to fit in the standard space alloted for a car radio in AMERICAN cars. Even thought they weren't invented here, Sony and Phillips knew where the market was. Then, we couldn't even produce a defect free enough stamped CDs in this country until a bunch of overseas consultants came over here to Telarc to figure out what they were doing wrong.

Interesting, didn't hear about that. There is another story that CDs were going to be smaller. Philips/Polydor had established plants and were well ahead of Sony by 1982 so Sony pulled a fast one and made the disc bigger apparently on a pretext that the head of Sony at the time wanted a single disc to carry a certain piece of music completely.

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