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lockedaway -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/28/2011 9:28:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

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Look...if You are a Domme, that is something You should project, in some manner, all the time, isn't it?
No, not in reality, not in the real world. Maybe in your fantasies they all strut around all day long in leather and corsets, but a surprising number of them are mere humans. Humans who make mistakes, get scared, need reassurance, and want to be loved. Dommes (and Doms) really do need to just be held so they can cry now and then you know.

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One of the keys to being a good Owner is to have a realistic concept of human nature.
That applies to being a worthwhile submissive as well.



lolololol :)  Read the fucking post again, genius.  "You are a Domme, that is something You should project, in some manner, all the time, isn't it?"  A look, a touch, an obscure reference and a thousand other gestures can be used to remind a sub of who he is to his Domme.  Don't be so obtuse.  A Domme can remind her sub of his submission in church, in court, at a prize fight, at his mother's house........ANYWHERE.  Right? 




Rochsub2009 -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/28/2011 9:48:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SUBMALEUK11

I'll be honest I don't and I find it hard to believe any man would, I'd be interested to hear what the men on here say..


I have to disagree with your assessment.  Cumming has absolutely nothing to do with my submission.

IMO, if you don't feel submissive after you cum, then perhaps you were never submissive in the first place.

To me, there is a difference between submission, and being a bottom while you're horny.  The latter is what it sounds like you do.

Submission to me means placing Her needs/wants/desires above my own.  It has nothing to do with whether I've experienced orgasm or not.  And the type of submission that I'm talking about extends outside of the bedroom.  It includes serving Her in all aspects of life.  "Bottoming" is more about letting the woman take charge during kinky sex.  It is usually exclusively a bedroom activity.  Once the sex is over, the D/s dynamic ends.

I can remember times when I had experienced orgasm, and after the sex was over the Domme that I was with at the time said "I want some ice cream.  Go to the grocery store and get me some".  Even if it was 3:00AM, I would have immediately gone to get her some ice cream.  It wouldn't have mattered that I was sleepy.  It wouldn't have mattered that it was late (or "early", depending on how you look at it), and it would have mattered that I had cum.  If she wanted ice cream, I would have gone and gotten it for her.   

It sounds like if that situation had happened to you, your response would have been "Go get it yourself, Bitch!"

I may be wrong, but it sounds like you were submitted to your dick.  You were serving your dick's needs.  The woman was just a prop in the scene.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/28/2011 9:51:52 AM)

And that is why Rochsub is awesome.




LaTigresse -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/28/2011 9:53:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: lockedaway

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

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Look...if You are a Domme, that is something You should project, in some manner, all the time, isn't it?
No, not in reality, not in the real world. Maybe in your fantasies they all strut around all day long in leather and corsets, but a surprising number of them are mere humans. Humans who make mistakes, get scared, need reassurance, and want to be loved. Dommes (and Doms) really do need to just be held so they can cry now and then you know.

quote:

One of the keys to being a good Owner is to have a realistic concept of human nature.
That applies to being a worthwhile submissive as well.



lolololol :)  Read the fucking post again, genius.  "You are a Domme, that is something You should project, in some manner, all the time, isn't it?"  A look, a touch, an obscure reference and a thousand other gestures can be used to remind a sub of who he is to his Domme.  Don't be so obtuse.  A Domme can remind her sub of his submission in church, in court, at a prize fight, at his mother's house........ANYWHERE.  Right? 



OR........you can turn this concept around to reflect personal responsibility. A submissive can BE submissive all the time, anywhere..........right? Why is it up to an adult to remind another adult of what they signed up for? Why is it up to an adult to remind another adult of their own personal responsibility?

If you make a commitment, follow through. I am a dominant woman, I do not need a submissive person to remind me to be, or make me be, dominant. The same holds true for the reverse.




Arpig -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/28/2011 10:13:55 AM)

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Why is it up to an adult to remind another adult of their own personal responsibility?
Well, I can't be sure, but based on these posts, and others he's made, I'd hazard a guess that it's because he's a wanker do-me type. He needs to be reminded of his position continuously so he can stay turned on. He's not really interested in his theoretical Domme as a person, merely as an extension of his penis. She exists merely to serve his libido. That's why he requires her to be "on" all the time, she isn't allowed any down time, because she is a "Domme", not a person.




lockedaway -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/28/2011 10:19:21 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

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ORIGINAL: lockedaway

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

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Look...if You are a Domme, that is something You should project, in some manner, all the time, isn't it?
No, not in reality, not in the real world. Maybe in your fantasies they all strut around all day long in leather and corsets, but a surprising number of them are mere humans. Humans who make mistakes, get scared, need reassurance, and want to be loved. Dommes (and Doms) really do need to just be held so they can cry now and then you know.

quote:

One of the keys to being a good Owner is to have a realistic concept of human nature.
That applies to being a worthwhile submissive as well.



lolololol :)  Read the fucking post again, genius.  "You are a Domme, that is something You should project, in some manner, all the time, isn't it?"  A look, a touch, an obscure reference and a thousand other gestures can be used to remind a sub of who he is to his Domme.  Don't be so obtuse.  A Domme can remind her sub of his submission in church, in court, at a prize fight, at his mother's house........ANYWHERE.  Right? 



OR........you can turn this concept around to reflect personal responsibility. A submissive can BE submissive all the time, anywhere..........right? Why is it up to an adult to remind another adult of what they signed up for? Why is it up to an adult to remind another adult of their own personal responsibility?

If you make a commitment, follow through. I am a dominant woman, I do not need a submissive person to remind me to be, or make me be, dominant. The same holds true for the reverse.



It cuts both ways, of course.  Like every relationship, there is a level of partnership.  Being a submissive doesn't absolve a person of their responsibility to help make the relationship work or vice versa.




lockedaway -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/28/2011 10:21:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

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Why is it up to an adult to remind another adult of their own personal responsibility?
Well, I can't be sure, but based on these posts, and others he's made, I'd hazard a guess that it's because he's a wanker do-me type. He needs to be reminded of his position continuously so he can stay turned on. He's not really interested in his theoretical Domme as a person, merely as an extension of his penis. She exists merely to serve his libido. That's why he requires her to be "on" all the time, she isn't allowed any down time, because she is a "Domme", not a person.


You lying piece of shit! LOLOLOLOL Be honest, Asspig, the only place you have read my posts have been in the political section where I have called you out as being a liberal, needy, greedy, dependent SWINE.  Hey...swine...LOLOLOLOLOLOL that fits!




LaTigresse -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/28/2011 10:27:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: lockedaway

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

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Why is it up to an adult to remind another adult of their own personal responsibility?
Well, I can't be sure, but based on these posts, and others he's made, I'd hazard a guess that it's because he's a wanker do-me type. He needs to be reminded of his position continuously so he can stay turned on. He's not really interested in his theoretical Domme as a person, merely as an extension of his penis. She exists merely to serve his libido. That's why he requires her to be "on" all the time, she isn't allowed any down time, because she is a "Domme", not a person.


You lying piece of shit! LOLOLOLOL Be honest, Asspig, the only place you have read my posts have been in the political section where I have called you out as being a liberal, needy, greedy, dependent SWINE.  Hey...swine...LOLOLOLOLOLOL that fits!



Call it what you will. Prior to this thread I have zero knowledge of you but.......based upon your posts on this thread.....his observation is spot on.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/28/2011 10:33:08 AM)

Arpig remains a sharp observer of asshattery.




Arpig -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/28/2011 10:39:50 AM)

Hmmmm, seems I touched a nerve. Methinks the lady doth protest too much. [:D]

I noticed how much of a one trick pony you really are, this will be the 3rd or 4th time on this thread you have tried to start a political argument. Go back into the basement where you belong.

ETA
Please, do get it right. I'm not a liberal, I'm an honest to goodness socialist.




LaTigresse -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/28/2011 10:41:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Arpig remains a sharp observer of asshattery.


Indeed.




LadyPact -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/28/2011 10:43:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009
I can remember times when I had experienced orgasm, and after the sex was over the Domme that I was with at the time said "I want some ice cream.  Go to the grocery store and get me some".  Even if it was 3:00AM, I would have immediately gone to get her some ice cream.  It wouldn't have mattered that I was sleepy.  It wouldn't have mattered that it was late (or "early", depending on how you look at it), and it would have mattered that I had cum.  If she wanted ice cream, I would have gone and gotten it for her.   

LOL.  I've given that order.  Actually, it was more like wanting a sundae. 

Every time this question does come up, I think about the times that I've been laying in bed and told clip to do something.  It never even occurs to Me that he would say, "sorry, Mistress, I just had an orgasm".  Having an orgasm doesn't change his nature.




SUBMALEUK11 -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/28/2011 10:45:01 AM)

I'd say it feels like if a woman's dominant it would make me cum quicker but if she was being dominant with me after I'd cum I just wouldn't like it
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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

I would want to know what the op means by no longer feeling submissive.

Does he mean he doesn't want to continue to play? Well, that's sensible. Just like you don't still feel hungry right after eating.

Does he mean he no longer cares about his partner and wants him/her to be happy? That's something entirely different.

Of course you don't still feel like playing more right afterwards. That's natural. Also natural that your pain tolerance decreases without sexual desire fueling it. However telling your partner to go fuck herself because she asks you to clean up the toys is not normal if you want the relationship to continue.





SUBMALEUK11 -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/28/2011 10:47:54 AM)

That's probably what he wants to say but he'd just be too scared to say it.

I've also heard that a lot of men on here make big promises to mistresses and go back on them. What I'm describing is the reason for this.

When a mans aroused he'll say pretty much anything, he'll call himself a slut, worthless Or whatever, when he gets a release he'll go back to his senses, the only men who deny this is true are men who's are on here looking to get off, which I'd say most men do when they come on here.
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009
I can remember times when I had experienced orgasm, and after the sex was over the Domme that I was with at the time said "I want some ice cream.  Go to the grocery store and get me some".  Even if it was 3:00AM, I would have immediately gone to get her some ice cream.  It wouldn't have mattered that I was sleepy.  It wouldn't have mattered that it was late (or "early", depending on how you look at it), and it would have mattered that I had cum.  If she wanted ice cream, I would have gone and gotten it for her.   

LOL.  I've given that order.  Actually, it was more like wanting a sundae. 

Every time this question does come up, I think about the times that I've been laying in bed and told clip to do something.  It never even occurs to Me that he would say, "sorry, Mistress, I just had an orgasm".  Having an orgasm doesn't change his nature.





SUBMALEUK11 -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/28/2011 10:50:38 AM)

you wouldn't have typed that if you went aroused though, I honestly don't believe you would.
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ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009

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ORIGINAL: SUBMALEUK11

I'll be honest I don't and I find it hard to believe any man would, I'd be interested to hear what the men on here say..


I have to disagree with your assessment.  Cumming has absolutely nothing to do with my submission.

IMO, if you don't feel submissive after you cum, then perhaps you were never submissive in the first place.

To me, there is a difference between submission, and being a bottom while you're horny.  The latter is what it sounds like you do.

Submission to me means placing Her needs/wants/desires above my own.  It has nothing to do with whether I've experienced orgasm or not.  And the type of submission that I'm talking about extends outside of the bedroom.  It includes serving Her in all aspects of life.  "Bottoming" is more about letting the woman take charge during kinky sex.  It is usually exclusively a bedroom activity.  Once the sex is over, the D/s dynamic ends.

I can remember times when I had experienced orgasm, and after the sex was over the Domme that I was with at the time said "I want some ice cream.  Go to the grocery store and get me some".  Even if it was 3:00AM, I would have immediately gone to get her some ice cream.  It wouldn't have mattered that I was sleepy.  It wouldn't have mattered that it was late (or "early", depending on how you look at it), and it would have mattered that I had cum.  If she wanted ice cream, I would have gone and gotten it for her.   

It sounds like if that situation had happened to you, your response would have been "Go get it yourself, Bitch!"

I may be wrong, but it sounds like you were submitted to your dick.  You were serving your dick's needs.  The woman was just a prop in the scene.
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(in reply to DesFIP)




LaTigresse -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/28/2011 10:50:48 AM)

Soooooooooo...........in essence you are not a submissive person but a bottom that gets off on dominant women.......until you get off.




SUBMALEUK11 -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/28/2011 10:53:13 AM)

Maybe, I've no idea, I just reckon most men on here are like that, no one can be a slave all the time, imagine going to work and acting that way, you wouldn't last l ong
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Soooooooooo...........in essence you are not a submissive person but a bottom that gets off on dominant women.......until you get off.




LaTigresse -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/28/2011 10:53:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SUBMALEUK11

you wouldn't have typed that if you went aroused though, I honestly don't believe you would.



Stop assuming that all men are like you. They are not. I am damned certain of that.




LillyBoPeep -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/28/2011 10:54:16 AM)

okay, so you're a bottom. you're more concerned with playing and sex than with submission. a bottom is someone who receives sensations during play. it doesn't necessarily have to do with a D/s relationship;even though you might find bossy women sexually appealing, you've explained yourself that you're not really a submissive, you're a bottom -- which is totally fine. but you can't use your own existence to negate the existence of people who are different from you. some men actually are submissive and actually aren't motivated by fear. =p

for me, the submissive part of me doesn't go away after orgasm, but then again, women and their orgasms are different from men and theirs. so... eh, i dunno.




SUBMALEUK11 -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/28/2011 10:54:24 AM)

IT's how men's bodies are designed

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

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ORIGINAL: SUBMALEUK11

you wouldn't have typed that if you went aroused though, I honestly don't believe you would.



Stop assuming that all men are like you. They are not. I am damned certain of that.





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