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Whistleblower wins case. - 7/28/2011 3:35:44 AM   
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/jul/27/bunny-greenhouse-war-profiteering

To just explain how Costs plus cash works..... You submit and invoice with a set some added on, the more you invoice the more you earn.

Lucrative to company owners but costly to the tax payer.
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RE: Whistleblower wins case. - 7/28/2011 3:56:25 AM   
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Her "offence" was to challenge the KBR contract. It was weeks before the expected invasion of Iraq, in 2003, and Bush military planners predicted Saddam Hussein would blow up Iraqi oilfields, as happened with the US invasion in 1991. The project, dubbed "Restore Iraqi Oil", or RIO, was created so that oilfield fires would be extinguished. KBR was owned then by Halliburton, whose CEO until 2000 was none other than then Vice President Dick Cheney. KBR was the only company invited to bid.

Bunny Greenhouse told her superiors that the process was illegal. She was overridden. She said the decision to grant the contract to KBR came from the office of the secretary of defence, run by VP Cheney's close friend, Donald Rumsfeld. As Bunny Greenhouse told a congressional committee:

"I can unequivocally state that the abuse related to contracts awarded to KBR represents the most blatant and improper contract abuse I have witnessed during the course of my professional career."

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RE: Whistleblower wins case. - 7/28/2011 4:07:04 AM   
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If the far left had its way thats the only kind of tilted "reporting" people would ever have a chance to see.






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RE: Whistleblower wins case. - 7/28/2011 4:32:46 AM   
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If the far left had its way thats the only kind of tilted "reporting" people would ever have a chance to see.




Typical reply but unsurprising....Is there any chance of you actually addressing the topic instead of derailing into bullshit land. Do you only care about how tax payers money is spent if it`s on medicare  ? 

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RE: Whistleblower wins case. - 7/28/2011 4:34:24 AM   
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Do you care that its a bullshit article, from start to finish?

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If the far left had its way thats the only kind of tilted "reporting" people would ever have a chance to see.




Typical reply but unsurprising....Is there any chance of you actually addressing the topic instead of derailing into bullshit land. Do you only care about how tax payers money is spent if it`s on medicare  ? 


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RE: Whistleblower wins case. - 7/28/2011 5:07:36 AM   
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If the far left had its way thats the only kind of tilted "reporting" people would ever have a chance to see.




Tilted reporting?

She won a a large settlement.


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RE: Whistleblower wins case. - 7/28/2011 5:12:20 AM   
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Do you care that its a bullshit article, from start to finish?

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If the far left had its way thats the only kind of tilted "reporting" people would ever have a chance to see.




Typical reply but unsurprising....Is there any chance of you actually addressing the topic instead of derailing into bullshit land. Do you only care about how tax payers money is spent if it`s on medicare  ? 



Do you care that you seem to be falling off the deep end?

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RE: Whistleblower wins case. - 7/28/2011 6:03:58 AM   
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She "won"?

Thats that far left rags ridiculous spin, but its no surprise that you simpletons buy into it.

Fact is, the O'Bummer administration handed her $970,000.00 of taxpayer money, for being their political stooge!

Talk about redistributing the wealth... 

But thats not all thats wrong with the "reporting" in that story.


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If the far left had its way thats the only kind of tilted "reporting" people would ever have a chance to see.




Tilted reporting?

She won a a large settlement.









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RE: Whistleblower wins case. - 7/28/2011 6:08:32 AM   
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"KBR was the only company invited to bid..."


Because that was the only company in the world capable of doing that job

But dont let the facts get in the way of this partisan witch hunt

Why should you

"The Guardian" certainly doesnt






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RE: Whistleblower wins case. - 7/28/2011 6:22:56 AM   
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"KBR was the only company invited to bid..."


Because that was the only company in the world capable of doing that job

But dont let the facts get in the way of this partisan witch hunt

Why should you

"The Guardian" certainly doesnt


Even if it is true that no other company in the world was capable of doing the job AND that therefore meant no bidding process was required, there was no job. KBR was hired to put out fires that didn't ignite.

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RE: Whistleblower wins case. - 7/28/2011 6:29:33 AM   
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I dont care how you cut it up, thats slanted reporting / propaganda at its worst

Again, once leftists have their way with dissenters such as Rupert Murdoch, FOX NEWS, Rush Limbaugh

And so on

Thats the ONLY kind of "reporting" we will see

Which that prospect has leftists drooling all over their keyboards every time they start another thread bashing the various conservatives or even balanced centrists in the media




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RE: Whistleblower wins case. - 7/28/2011 6:36:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		What exactly is slanted? She blew the whistle, was penalized, and later compensated.

The US Army Corps of Engineers settled with Greenhouse for $970,000, representing full restitution for lost wages, compensatory damages and attorneys' fees.

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RE: Whistleblower wins case. - 7/28/2011 6:45:53 AM   
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She "won"?

Thats that far left rags ridiculous spin, but its no surprise that you simpletons buy into it.

Fact is, the O'Bummer administration handed her $970,000.00 of taxpayer money, for being their political stooge!

Talk about redistributing the wealth... 

But thats not all thats wrong with the "reporting" in that story.


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If the far left had its way thats the only kind of tilted "reporting" people would ever have a chance to see.




Tilted reporting?

She won a a large settlement.





Like I said, you are falling off the edge Sanity.

It was a court settlement.

It had nothing to do with Obama.

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RE: Whistleblower wins case. - 7/28/2011 6:53:22 AM   
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"KBR was the only company invited to bid..."


Because that was the only company in the world capable of doing that job

But dont let the facts get in the way of this partisan witch hunt

Why should you

"The Guardian" certainly doesnt


Even if it is true that no other company in the world was capable of doing the job AND that therefore meant no bidding process was required, there was no job. KBR was hired to put out fires that didn't ignite.


Yeah, we'll organize a fire department AFTER a neighborhood fire.

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RE: Whistleblower wins case. - 7/28/2011 6:54:26 AM   
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What exactly is slanted? She blew the whistle, was penalized, and later compensated.

The US Army Corps of Engineers settled with Greenhouse for $970,000, representing full restitution for lost wages, compensatory damages and attorneys' fees.


The numbers say it all. No punitive damages.

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RE: Whistleblower wins case. - 7/28/2011 7:02:50 AM   
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To just explain how Costs plus cash works..... You submit and invoice with a set some added on, the more you invoice the more you earn.

Lucrative to company owners but costly to the tax payer.


Highly unlikely that it was a pure cost plus contract. The DCAA has rarely approved them since the early 90s and I doubt any other agency is different. More likely it was a cost plus with incentives contract. Under a CPWI contract costs over a ceiling are not fully reimbursable, and the "plus" portion is increased for coming in under target.

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RE: Whistleblower wins case. - 7/28/2011 7:12:16 AM   
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Because that was the only company in the world capable of doing that job



Then why not put it out for competitive bid and award the contract based on KBR having sole capabilities for it?  It would have been a lot better politically at least.

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To just explain how Costs plus cash works..... You submit and invoice with a set some added on, the more you invoice the more you earn.

Lucrative to company owners but costly to the tax payer.


Clarifying:

Cost plus means that whatever is invoiced gets paid, plus a fixed percent.  Maximizing costs will maximize income.  Widely used back when NASA was set up, and used in a LOT of contracts back in the day but almost never used now.

Fixed fee is when the whole job gets done for a set amount.  That's the standard in the private sector.  It is a pain in the defense community because, frankly, a lot of the work is done AFTER the contract is signed, and this results in multiple ongoing renegotiations.

Cost plus fixed fee is how the KBR contract SHOULD have been set up.  The company gets its invoice paid plus a set fee.  The less they spend, the higher the percentage of the total the fixed fee represents, which is an incentive to keep costs down.
Cost

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RE: Whistleblower wins case. - 7/28/2011 7:13:41 AM   
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If the far left had its way thats the only kind of tilted "reporting" people would ever have a chance to see.

Thank God for near left reporters.

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RE: Whistleblower wins case. - 7/28/2011 7:14:19 AM   
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Who settled, dumb ass...

Who do you think pulls the strings there.

I know its asking a lot to ask you to try to think on your own... but this is beyond ridiculous.

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She "won"?

Thats that far left rags ridiculous spin, but its no surprise that you simpletons buy into it.

Fact is, the O'Bummer administration handed her $970,000.00 of taxpayer money, for being their political stooge!

Talk about redistributing the wealth... 

But thats not all thats wrong with the "reporting" in that story.


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If the far left had its way thats the only kind of tilted "reporting" people would ever have a chance to see.




Tilted reporting?

She won a a large settlement.





Like I said, you are falling off the edge Sanity.

It was a court settlement.

It had nothing to do with Obama.



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RE: Whistleblower wins case. - 7/28/2011 7:19:44 AM   
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Thank god for balanced reporting

Though it drives leftists completely insane

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If the far left had its way thats the only kind of tilted "reporting" people would ever have a chance to see.

Thank God for near left reporters.


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