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Lucylastic -> RE: Whistleblower wins case. (7/29/2011 1:31:37 PM)

[:D]




Sanity -> RE: Whistleblower wins case. (7/29/2011 3:11:59 PM)


The answer was a simple one but too complicated for you to understand

Here it is again anyway:

The bias in the article is blatant and obvious

It is self evident

Only a fool or a blind ideologue could possibly miss it

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


How typical, and laughable [:D]

The Conservative talks facts and makes posts relevant to the subject at hand, the left leaning individual hurls baseless ad hominems

kens post, even ken himself is a caricature of practically every other leftist inhabiting Internet discussion boards...


Post 45, I asked for facts
Post 50 I asked for links
post 55 I asked for links I asked for an explanation
post 57 I asked you to show your proof
post 60 I decided you had nothing of substance, but gave you a chance
post 63 I prodded once more, double dog dared you to be honest
post 65 you once again placed assumptions on my mental abilities
post 66 I decided you had enough chances..
Now, WHO cannot make relevant posts???
You are a liar







Lucylastic -> RE: Whistleblower wins case. (7/29/2011 3:18:11 PM)

so show me..where it is blatant and obvious, how is it blatant and obvious?. I dont take your word on anything.
Ive been asking since post 45... here we are at post 82...and still you give me nothing to look at.
You see, trying hard to insult my mental abilities...is not an answer.




mnottertail -> RE: Whistleblower wins case. (7/29/2011 3:18:39 PM)

and you did so, in the rarest of all forms, tommie.  she blew the whistle, she got fired, she got compensated.

I mean how slanted is that?




MrRodgers -> RE: Whistleblower wins case. (7/29/2011 3:31:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

"KBR was the only company invited to bid..."


Because that was the only company in the world capable of doing that job

But dont let the facts get in the way of this partisan witch hunt

Why should you

"The Guardian" certainly doesnt


Talk about facts ? All I had to do was wait a bit and sure enough we'd get into what you bring. There are any number of companies that were very capable of extinguishing the Iraqi oil fires (RIO) and in fact KBR had to sub work out because there were so any fires and time (speed) was of the essence.

Talk about bullshit.




DomKen -> RE: Whistleblower wins case. (7/29/2011 3:47:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy
It depends on what you mean by "doing contract enforcement", they are your words, not mine. My role was quite simple, a genius like you should have been able to figure it out instead of making a fool of yourself once again by making a baseless post.

An element of cost plus and cost plus with incentive contracts is the cost of wages and benefits. Pension and health benefit costs are reviewed by the initial contracting officer of the DCAA and by the DLA on audit. As the client's actuary I both determined what costs would go into the contract and represented them on audit.



You represented a defence contractor before the DOD on cost plus contracts and you're neither a lawyer nor a CPA? Bullshit. No one would hire an outside consultant for such a job when it is already the responsibility of counsel and their accountants. Once again you didn't have privilege so there is absolutely no way any company would give you access to such sensitive information.

Maybe you don't realize this but some of us have actually spent a lot of time around big business and your bullshit is simply unbelieveable.


No, your attempts at disputing the facts are what are unbelievable, CPAs and lawyers are not qualified to represent anyone on pension and health benefit cost calculations. they REQUIRE a Member of the American Academy of Actuaries and/or an Enrolled Actuary (both of which I was). Youre just an internet loser rationalizing your failure by trying to diminish others.

Bullshit. There is no such requirement. Pension and health cost calculations are standard parts of all good enterprise software (I know I wrote some of one). An enrolled actuary (i.e. federally licensed) is required for people who manage pension funds not for much of anything else and no company would give an outside consultant not bound by privilege access to the DoD contracting process.




Sanity -> RE: Whistleblower wins case. (7/29/2011 3:49:16 PM)


In combat conditions, in Iraq during the invasion?

Sure... there have to be thousands and thousands of mom and pop companies that can do that.  [:D]

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
Talk about facts ? All I had to do was wait a bit and sure enough we'd get into what you bring. There are any number of companies that were very capable of extinguishing the Iraqi oil fires (RIO) and in fact KBR had to sub work out because there were so any fires and time (speed) was of the essence.

Talk about bullshit.




Sanity -> RE: Whistleblower wins case. (7/29/2011 3:50:44 PM)


Again lucy, have someone explain to you what self evident means

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

so show me..where it is blatant and obvious, how is it blatant and obvious?. I dont take your word on anything.
Ive been asking since post 45... here we are at post 82...and still you give me nothing to look at.
You see, trying hard to insult my mental abilities...is not an answer.





DomKen -> RE: Whistleblower wins case. (7/29/2011 3:52:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


In combat conditions, in Iraq during the invasion?

Sure... there have to be thousands and thousands of mom and pop companies that can do that.  [:D]

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
Talk about facts ? All I had to do was wait a bit and sure enough we'd get into what you bring. There are any number of companies that were very capable of extinguishing the Iraqi oil fires (RIO) and in fact KBR had to sub work out because there were so any fires and time (speed) was of the essence.

Talk about bullshit.


Red Adair and Boots and Coots did it in the first Iraq war and from what I can find they were the subs used by KBR this time as well.




Politesub53 -> RE: Whistleblower wins case. (7/30/2011 3:15:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Sorry Rudesub

Your new links are irrelevant, they have nothing in them about what I wrote about the Guardian articles heavy bias

It doesnt follow, as they say



How odd that you suddenly feel ripping off the US taxpayer is irrelevant. As for none of the stories linking to the Guardian, try reading them in context, you may see a pattern.

No surprise to see you resort to name calling, then complain about name calling, while all the time avoiding the actual issue at hand.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Whistleblower wins case. (7/30/2011 3:29:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy
It depends on what you mean by "doing contract enforcement", they are your words, not mine. My role was quite simple, a genius like you should have been able to figure it out instead of making a fool of yourself once again by making a baseless post.

An element of cost plus and cost plus with incentive contracts is the cost of wages and benefits. Pension and health benefit costs are reviewed by the initial contracting officer of the DCAA and by the DLA on audit. As the client's actuary I both determined what costs would go into the contract and represented them on audit.



You represented a defence contractor before the DOD on cost plus contracts and you're neither a lawyer nor a CPA? Bullshit. No one would hire an outside consultant for such a job when it is already the responsibility of counsel and their accountants. Once again you didn't have privilege so there is absolutely no way any company would give you access to such sensitive information.

Maybe you don't realize this but some of us have actually spent a lot of time around big business and your bullshit is simply unbelieveable.


No, your attempts at disputing the facts are what are unbelievable, CPAs and lawyers are not qualified to represent anyone on pension and health benefit cost calculations. they REQUIRE a Member of the American Academy of Actuaries and/or an Enrolled Actuary (both of which I was). Youre just an internet loser rationalizing your failure by trying to diminish others.

Bullshit. There is no such requirement. Pension and health cost calculations are standard parts of all good enterprise software (I know I wrote some of one). An enrolled actuary (i.e. federally licensed) is required for people who manage pension funds not for much of anything else and no company would give an outside consultant not bound by privilege access to the DoD contracting process.


Youre such a fucking idiot. To be included in contracts compliance with GASB and CAS 412 and 413 have to be certified to. Actuarial certifications can only be made by members of the Academy. Any time you want to go to the mat with this, lets go. $10,000 wager that from 1987 to 1997 I was

1) An enrolled actuary
2) A Fellow of the Society of Actuaries
3) A member of the American Academy of Actuaries
4) Represented Hughes Electronics wrt contract costs before the DCAA and DLA for qualified and non-qualified benefit plans
5) Represented Hughes Electronics in their negotiations for their sale to Raytheon, which centered around $5 billion in surplus pension assets
6) Represented EG&G Energy Measurement wrt to their government contracts
7) A partner in what was then the 2d largest and is now the largest actuarial consulting firm in the world


Put up or shut the fuck up. Youre a liar and havent the slightest idea what youre talking about.

Print this, read it, and then eat it.

http://www.actuary.org/qualstandards/qualif_stnds.pdf


"The American Academy of Actuaries (the Academy), through Precept 2 of its Code of
Professional Conduct, requires its members (1) to perform professional services only when they
are qualified to do so and (2) to meet applicable qualification standards .' Such professional
services may include the rendering of advice and recommendations or opinions based upon
actuarial considerations, including the issuance of Prescribed Statements of Actuarial Opinion
(PSAOs) . Actuaries who issue PSAOs when rendering professional services in the United States
are required by the Code of Professional Conduct, subject to the profession's disciplinary
process, to comply with the Qualification Standards .
A statement of actuarial opinion is a PSAO if, and only if, it is :
• a statement of actuarial opinion issued for purposes of compliance with law or
regulation ;
• a statement of actuarial opinion issued for purposes of compliance with Actuarial
Standards of Practice (ASOPs) ( including any Actuarial Compliance Guideline
(ACG)) as promulgated by the Actuarial Standards Board (ASB) ; or
an actuarial communication issued for purposes of compliance with standards
promulgated by the Financial Accounting Standards Board (FASB), the
Governmental Accounting Standards Board (GASB), the Cost Accounting
Standards Board (CASB), the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants
(AICPA), or the Federal Accounting Standards Advisory Board (FASAB).
A list of examples of actuarial opinions and communications commonly issued by actuaries,

You also apparently dont realize that communications with and/or by third party experts that are requested by an attorney in order to provide legal services are privileged.

"In U.S. v. Kovel, the attorney-client privilege was extended to communications with a
third party consultant for just this reason51 – because “the complexities of modern existence
prevent attorneys from effectively handling clients’ affairs without the help of others.”52 Since
this case was decided in 1961, there has been dramatic growth in the number of cases filed each
year, dollars spent on litigation,53 amount of regulation,54 number of governmental agencies,55
complexity of corporate laws,56 and number of media outlets.57"




DomKen -> RE: Whistleblower wins case. (7/30/2011 4:12:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy
It depends on what you mean by "doing contract enforcement", they are your words, not mine. My role was quite simple, a genius like you should have been able to figure it out instead of making a fool of yourself once again by making a baseless post.

An element of cost plus and cost plus with incentive contracts is the cost of wages and benefits. Pension and health benefit costs are reviewed by the initial contracting officer of the DCAA and by the DLA on audit. As the client's actuary I both determined what costs would go into the contract and represented them on audit.



You represented a defence contractor before the DOD on cost plus contracts and you're neither a lawyer nor a CPA? Bullshit. No one would hire an outside consultant for such a job when it is already the responsibility of counsel and their accountants. Once again you didn't have privilege so there is absolutely no way any company would give you access to such sensitive information.

Maybe you don't realize this but some of us have actually spent a lot of time around big business and your bullshit is simply unbelieveable.


No, your attempts at disputing the facts are what are unbelievable, CPAs and lawyers are not qualified to represent anyone on pension and health benefit cost calculations. they REQUIRE a Member of the American Academy of Actuaries and/or an Enrolled Actuary (both of which I was). Youre just an internet loser rationalizing your failure by trying to diminish others.

Bullshit. There is no such requirement. Pension and health cost calculations are standard parts of all good enterprise software (I know I wrote some of one). An enrolled actuary (i.e. federally licensed) is required for people who manage pension funds not for much of anything else and no company would give an outside consultant not bound by privilege access to the DoD contracting process.


Youre such a fucking idiot. To be included in contracts compliance with GASB and CAS 412 and 413 have to be certified to. Actuarial certifications can only be made by members of the Academy.

Cost Accounting standards? You have to be an actuary to manage a plan not to do contract compliance. Lawyers and CPA's do contract compliance. An actuary might tell the lawyer the amount of the pension obligation but have direct contact with the DoD for a company you don't even work for? No one is that incompetent.

And anyway any actuary should be able to do simple multiplication and you can't.




mastrcmmdr -> RE: Whistleblower wins case. (7/30/2011 5:38:20 PM)

xx





willbeurdaddy -> RE: Whistleblower wins case. (7/30/2011 5:41:22 PM)

Sorry, little girl, but youre wrong. Contract costs and compliance with CASB must be certified by an actuary. I even posted the MAAA requirements that specify the requirements for CASB and GASB compliance.

$10,000. Any time. Till then everyone knows what a whining little internet loser you are.




Lucylastic -> RE: Whistleblower wins case. (7/30/2011 5:52:15 PM)

you did it again WIlbur, well done, LMFAO




DomKen -> RE: Whistleblower wins case. (7/30/2011 8:12:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

Sorry, little girl, but youre wrong. Contract costs and compliance with CASB must be certified by an actuary. I even posted the MAAA requirements that specify the requirements for CASB and GASB compliance.

You posted no such thing. What you posted was the requirements of one professional organization. I also note that you are now backed off your initial claim that you were in direct compliance with the DoD and instead now simply certified something and since that was the entire basis of my pointing out your bullshit I accept your concession of defeat.

There is still the problem that you cannot do basic multiplication.




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