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RE: Hello from Vagina Land? WTF? - 7/29/2011 7:27:42 AM   
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RE: Hello from Vagina Land? WTF? - 7/29/2011 7:29:17 AM   
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For some reason the "Talking Vagina" subject gave me visions of a pervy version of that looney tunes cartoon with Michigan J Frog.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HAjhtPZGDY

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RE: Hello from Vagina Land? WTF? - 7/29/2011 7:42:37 AM   
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I think it's ironic that even the ad company who created the ads say the products are not necessary:

http://www.adweek.com/news/advertising-branding/summers-eve-pulls-controversial-talking-vagina-videos-133714?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Brandweek-All-News+%28Brandweek+News+-+All%29

"The product that women and the medical community have questioned whether it is necessary is douching," she said. "This campaign is marketing the external cleanser, cloth and wash, which is no different than a special hand cream, eye cream, body wash, etc. Now, are these things necessary? No. But cosmetically, as women, we have those choices."

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RE: Hello from Vagina Land? WTF? - 7/29/2011 7:49:53 AM   
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necessary? No

Do I like them from time to time for the smell and the fresher cleaner feel? Yup. Why not? I like deodorants with nice smells too. Not necessary but they're nice.

Never understood why so many seem to have such a problem with feminine products. I've used them for the majority of my adult and preadult life. Have yet to ever have a single problem.



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RE: Hello from Vagina Land? WTF? - 7/29/2011 7:52:25 AM   
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I was more skeeved out by those mother-daughter douche commercials talking about having that "not so fresh feeling".

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RE: Hello from Vagina Land? WTF? - 7/29/2011 8:01:42 AM   
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEAijw2GEts&feature=related
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I was more skeeved out by those mother-daughter douche commercials talking about having that "not so fresh feeling".



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RE: Hello from Vagina Land? WTF? - 7/29/2011 8:27:03 AM   
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Vaginas are self cleaning!
Opinions please?


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RE: Hello from Vagina Land? WTF? - 7/29/2011 8:39:44 AM   
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i don't think the necessity of the product is an issue; of course they aren't necessary, and of course they admit it. =p candy bars aren't necessary, neither are name-brand jeans. advertising works the way it does by shaming people into buying stuff in order to avoid living an inadequate life, or some other wacky line. but they advertise that way because it works.

but i do have issues with the silly commercials being run before harry potter because yeah -- now you've got a bunch of pre-teen girls who think they have something wrong with them that needs to be cleaned constantly -- hey, you can take those wipes on the go to make sure you're ALWAYS fresh! -- and pre-teen boys who probably won't ever really understand it because their parents won't talk to them about it, and they'll perpetuate the misconceptions.

that said, if people are properly educated about potential risks of douches, then sure, they've got the choice to use them. but i think people have issues with products advertised in this way because douches often do lead to more harm than good, doctors generally advise against them, but they're advertised as if you NEED them because your chick bits are really nasty and need to be kept fresh so people don't notice. =p it's a long-standing attitude towards women that many people adamantly believe should change, so they see advertising like this as misleading, offensive and divisive, thus the problem. how many cultures believe you're "unclean" after you have a period? i don't buy into the silly "almighty vagina!" line of thinking, but i do recognize a fairly recurring attitude that female genitalia/secretions/whatever are gross, while men reserve the right to expect to be able to ejaculate all over their partners, piss in the snow and write their names, etc etc. there are no special deodorants for sweaty balls, even though they sure could use them sometimes. =p what about guys with stinky urethral openings? =p should we invent a douche for them, too?

and then when the company throws racial stereotypes into it -- i mean what is even the point of that? it has nothing to do with the product at all, and their response and many of the responses in this thread leads me to believe that people just don't even know what racial stereotyping is. if they think it's funny it must be fine, and everyone else is just "over-reacting." you get a situation where you have white people deciding what is or is not "offensive" to non-whites, and judging non-whites by not responding favorably to their "sense of humor;" you can invalidate someone's entire opinion by just saying "you're playing the race card," even if what they're saying or complaining about is totally valid. those commercials aren't going to be funny to most people like me, because that is NOT how we see ourselves. but what it teaches us is that that is how YOU see us. (note, this is a "general you," not any specific you.) it creates an unnecessary environment of "us vs. them" and for what? to sell a couple more douches? =p seriously?

it's fucking asinine.

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RE: Hello from Vagina Land? WTF? - 7/29/2011 8:43:00 AM   
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RE: Hello from Vagina Land? WTF? - 7/29/2011 8:43:54 AM   
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I was more skeeved out by those mother-daughter douche commercials talking about having that "not so fresh feeling".





omg, that could have been my mother, pure as the driven snow in her mind, lol.

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RE: Hello from Vagina Land? WTF? - 7/29/2011 8:48:01 AM   
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Okay, I know people will disagree with me but here is my take on the ads all of them:

I did find the first 3 ads to be not funny and offensive and annoying:
Ad #1 in which Ms. [African American] V says her "wunder down under will do more for her than fixing her hair... and that little ghetto 'head' wobble.
#2 Ms [Latina] V who makes miracles by popping out babies.
#3 Ms [All-White] V who is less than fresh 'down there' as she has been dropping hints, and there is something else about it that bothers me about it but I can't quite put my finger on it.
So, yes, to me they were racist.

The pussy ad: I thought was funny. Kelsey Grammer (I think) as the cat (although the cat itself looked stupid), the writing poetic with a nice beat and the attention to detail as well as the insertion of the absurd image at the end.
Actually, I really liked it... a lot because it reminds me of something one of the slam poets at my local venue might have done.

The third ad: it was visually stunning, and really none of it was untrue in my opinion within that context, but...
... and it is a very big BUT: to show it before a Harry Potter movie was wildly inappropriate.

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RE: Hello from Vagina Land? WTF? - 7/29/2011 8:50:21 AM   
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Douching can interfere with the vagina's pH levels, reducing its acidity and setting the stage for bacterial infections. If your vagina has a strong or unpleasant odor, see your doctor; a douche will only cover up the smell without curing the problem that's causing it. Also avoid using harsh soaps or cleansers on the vulva or inside the vagina, as these also can affect a healthy pH balance.


I'm not sure about this douching idea from a selfish male perspective, either. It puts me in mind of the Summer Meadow Fragrance air freshener spray my dad uses in his bathroom. It gives me the shudders. It's good if a bathroom smells clean, but it's not meant to smell like a frigging summer meadow.


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RE: Hello from Vagina Land? WTF? - 7/29/2011 8:51:23 AM   
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hey Peon?

I am all natural... scent-wise

just sayin ;)

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RE: Hello from Vagina Land? WTF? - 7/29/2011 8:52:25 AM   
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hey Peon?

I am all natural...

just sayin ;)



I can vouch for that!

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RE: Hello from Vagina Land? WTF? - 7/29/2011 8:53:02 AM   
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Never understood why so many seem to have such a problem with feminine products. I've used them for the majority of my adult and preadult life. Have yet to ever have a single problem.


Artificial fragrance irritates me. There's only one brand of shaving cream I can use - Kiss My Face Fragrance Free. I've found artificial fragrance free shampoo works too.

This applies to more feminine products than tampons/pads:

http://supplements.vitahealthessentials.com/feminine-products.htm

More and more women are becoming aware of the negative impact synthetic products have on their bodies. From hormonal imbalance, to PMS, to skin sensitivities, the effects of synthetic products, pesticides and unnecessary chemicals are becoming known. This is especially true with feminine hygiene products; products that come into intimate contact with our bodies.

Conventionally produced, commercially available feminine hygiene products may contain chemicals, synthetics, latex, synthetic fragrances and super absorbents that are made from petrochemicals. Plastic tampon applicators may be coated in pesticides, made from crude oil, and contains phthalates, a known carcinogen. In addition, these products are made from cotton that is grown conventionally, that is, it may have used chemical pesticides and fertilizers. This is not only bad for the earth and our water table, but it is detrimental to your health!


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RE: Hello from Vagina Land? WTF? - 7/29/2011 10:30:14 AM   
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Actually yes, men *do* heathering whine about stinging if they've shaved or waxed, but it's not the fuzzy balls [which are the heathering equivalent to our outer fuzzy labia] which sting, it's the moist and internal parts [which on a man would be his heathering urethra], hence my heathering analogy.
Whew! Using extra gerunds is exhausting! ;-)
Well as a man who has shaved his balls, I can categorically state that this isn't so.

And if you're going to use the made up gerund, you might want to use the correct one. it would be Hannahing, or Hannering. Heather isn't the one you are after here.

I'll make it easy for you.
Hannah = Avatar involving the finger or the phrase "fuck you" in some way, black font, outrageous statements and/or style, liberal use of variations of the word "fuck" throughout.
Heather = Avatar is a cute wiggly bum, purple font, calm reasoned statements, no expletives or swear words (or almost never).

And no, sorry oddly enough a man's urethra is equivalent to...gasp! a woman's URETHRA!
Your knowledge of anatomy is as woefully lacking as your knowledge of Hannah/Heather differentiation.

Better luck next post Tantriqu, but for this one you get an F for anecdotal validity, an F for bitchy snarkiness, and an F for factual accuracy.


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RE: Hello from Vagina Land? WTF? - 7/29/2011 10:35:53 AM   
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I never understood those bathroom scented air "fresheners" anyway. I'd rather smell the fading "natural" smell than get choked up by that stuff in the spray can.

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RE: Hello from Vagina Land? WTF? - 7/29/2011 10:40:15 AM   
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I'd rather smell the fading "natural" smell than get choked up by that stuff in the spray can.
You never smelled the "natural" smell of the Pigman's sty....just saying.

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RE: Hello from Vagina Land? WTF? - 7/29/2011 10:49:37 AM   
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I never understood those bathroom scented air "fresheners" anyway. I'd rather smell the fading "natural" smell than get choked up by that stuff in the spray can.

well, if the natural smell starts burning my eyes.. then somethings gotta be done..

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RE: Hello from Vagina Land? WTF? - 7/29/2011 10:50:55 AM   
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I was married twice and raised two boys.....I'm pretty tough!

Fair enough, I grew up on a farm, and the pig barns were the worst, Pigman.......but I could take it!

What strikes fear into my heart is beans for dinner and then the covers being pulled over my head....

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