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Again, WTF is wrong with people? - 7/29/2011 7:39:02 AM   
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PHOENIX (Reuters) - Four adult relatives of an Arizona girl found suffocated in a storage bin have been arrested after investigators determined she was locked in the container as punishment for taking a popsicle without permission.

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RE: Again, WTF is wrong with people? - 7/29/2011 7:42:03 AM   
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PHOENIX (Reuters) - Four adult relatives of an Arizona girl found suffocated in a storage bin have been arrested after investigators determined she was locked in the container as punishment for taking a popsicle without permission.


Well she's unlikely to re-offend.

But yes, people do seem to be stretching the limits of stupidity these days.

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RE: Again, WTF is wrong with people? - 7/29/2011 7:44:23 AM   
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RE: Again, WTF is wrong with people? - 7/29/2011 12:00:02 PM   
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It has a news video in addition to the story. I don't believe in the death penalty but people like this make me question that for a second.......luci

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RE: Again, WTF is wrong with people? - 7/29/2011 12:02:37 PM   
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I don't believe in the death penalty but people like this make me question that for a second


I wouldn't want to let them off that easily. Better they rot in jail for decades, then die.

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RE: Again, WTF is wrong with people? - 7/29/2011 12:03:42 PM   
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I don't believe in the death penalty but people like this make me question that for a second


I wouldn't want to let them off that easily. Better they rot in jail for decades, then die.

Good point. Actually, smothering to death in a tiny box would be especially fitting........luci

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RE: Again, WTF is wrong with people? - 7/29/2011 12:07:55 PM   
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I don't believe in the death penalty but people like this make me question that for a second


I wouldn't want to let them off that easily. Better they rot in jail for decades, then die.

Good point. Actually, smothering to death in a tiny box would be especially fitting........luci


Amen. And they don't even get a fucking popsicle.


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RE: Again, WTF is wrong with people? - 7/29/2011 12:08:00 PM   
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Good point. Actually, smothering to death in a tiny box would be especially fitting........luci


I would think that growing slowly old, eating only food that meets minimum possible standards, and spending each and every day bored out of their minds, til they begin to want to die to escape, would be much, much worse than that.

People think that being anti-death penalty is the soft option. It's actually the polar opposite.

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RE: Again, WTF is wrong with people? - 7/29/2011 3:25:21 PM   
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As to the death penalty, it probably would be letting them off easy.  I hope they get to serve their terms in general population and the other inmates have a great time letting them enjoy their years.

Shocked as hell over the Grandmother.  I'd have to be at death's door before I allowed *anybody* to abuse My Grandchild. 


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RE: Again, WTF is wrong with people? - 7/29/2011 3:48:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		"People think that being anti-death penalty is the soft option. It's actually the polar opposite"

Indeed. But for one society can only pay for so much of this shit. Also, if you embrace the premise that they are sick in some way, death cures all diseases and is more humane. You can't have it both ways.

Think about that and while you're at it think about how fucked up the legal system is, in which people with money and/or connections can just about get away with anything, while the most of the poor cannot effectively fight even the most unbased of charges, no matter how trumped up.

I fully support removing certain greivous offenders from the human race, I really do 100 % or more, but I don't trust the government to do it.

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RE: Again, WTF is wrong with people? - 7/29/2011 3:58:34 PM   
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RE: Again, WTF is wrong with people? - 7/29/2011 4:00:06 PM   
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"People think that being anti-death penalty is the soft option. It's actually the polar opposite"

Indeed. But for one society can only pay for so much of this shit. Also, if you embrace the premise that they are sick in some way, death cures all diseases and is more humane. You can't have it both ways.

Think about that and while you're at it think about how fucked up the legal system is, in which people with money and/or connections can just about get away with anything, while the most of the poor cannot effectively fight even the most unbased of charges, no matter how trumped up.

I fully support removing certain greivous offenders from the human race, I really do 100 % or more, but I don't trust the government to do it.


Did you suffer some sort of sudden or accidental trauma to get like this, or was it a slow, steady decline in mental faculties?

Only the more of your posts I read, the more certain I am that you need some sort of professional help.

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RE: Again, WTF is wrong with people? - 7/29/2011 4:11:45 PM   
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Help to conform to what ? Your view ? Sorry, I don't partake of delusions of grandeur.

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RE: Again, WTF is wrong with people? - 7/29/2011 4:17:46 PM   
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As for those sick fucks, just lock them in a box, drop it in the dessert and drive off.


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RE: Again, WTF is wrong with people? - 7/29/2011 4:19:06 PM   
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RE: Again, WTF is wrong with people? - 7/29/2011 5:07:10 PM   
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People think that being anti-death penalty is the soft option. It's actually the polar opposite.


And reversible, to some extent.

You can't give an innocent person back lost years, but you can release them, apologize and attempt redress.

With a dead innocent, you can't do squat, except to tear up old wounds with people you deprived of their loved ones by mistake.

Capital punishment might work if the execution was legally changed to a murder if the accused was cleared of the charges postmortem, so that the desire to execute criminals was counterbalanced by the subsequent charges of murder and accessory to murder for the judge, jury, prosecution and executioners. That would ensure that it was reserved for very special cases. Seeing as the capability-maturity level of most law enforcement is about the same now as it was back in the days of Jack the Ripper, it makes little sense to consider irreversible action as an outgrowth of law enforcement. Judicial systems haven't evolved much, either, so no amelioration of the problem there. Using the detraction of introducing a risk associated with making a mistake can probably exert enough pressure. Though it might work, I would still have one major reservation, though: I'm opposed to the idea of a government empowered to kill its own citizens.

But your point is perhaps the best one, in that it is one that should carry weight with both camps.

Humans must make an effort to imagine time on any meaningful scale.

Making the effort is worthwhile, though.

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RE: Again, WTF is wrong with people? - 7/29/2011 5:38:35 PM   
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I'm opposed to the idea of a government empowered to kill its own citizens.


There's that for sure, and in addition I feel that, if we're supposed to be progressing as a species, then what on earth are we doing indulging in moronic murder & revenge dressed up as "justice"?

Well, I say "we", but of course I mean "those countries still retarded enough to use the death penalty".

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RE: Again, WTF is wrong with people? - 7/29/2011 6:00:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		There's a saying that's quite appropriate:  You have to get a license to drive a car, but not to have a child". 

There are cases where people should not be allowed to procreate, this being but one example.  I know that you can't tell what kind of parents they'll turn out to be, but it's always too late for the little one who paid for that with their life.  Because they were born to the wrong parents. 

Stories like these leave scars on my soul and my heart.  I don't understand how children can go missing and absolutely no one notices this.  I don't care if you live in Bumfuck, Wherever, someone should notice that a defenseless person at such a young age should not be noticed as "gone".  Forget the excuses given, it just doesn't wash with me.  May they be put in general population and their crime made known to the inmates.  Nothing worse than what they did to that child over a damned popsicle.  It's a travesty and our society seems to become more immune to these deaths, any senseless death as a matter of fact.  JMHO.


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RE: Again, WTF is wrong with people? - 7/29/2011 7:16:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Agreed, tiggerspoohbear. The video on the link I provided above has a neighbor on there who wasn't one bit surprised and was in fact suspicious of the original "hide and seek" story. Apparently she and other neighbors were pretty aware of what was going on and did nothing. Shameful......luci

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RE: Again, WTF is wrong with people? - 7/29/2011 7:20:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh god, now I am crying for a little girl I don't even know. I can just imagine the pure terror she experienced. How her thoughts become more muddled and she became even more hysterical as she couldn't get air and her brain lost oxygen. I truly can imagine the terror this child felt. My brother once locked me in a dumpster, one of those big metal ones that people in a apartment complex all take their garbage too. He took a chain and trapped me inside, I remember being terrified. It was hot, and I could barely breathe and I am only lucky that a neighbor opened it up to and threw their trash inside and found me there.

I only wish someone had found this young girl. These sort of people are the type I want to spit on and brutalize. They don't deserve a quick death, they deserve to be tortured and then left to suffocate, I hope they piss themselves and have to sit in their urine and stink before they finally die! (sorry for such a venomous post, but damn it pisses me off!)

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