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I'm sure that those who enjoy on-line slavery would surely admit that on-line is simply an enhanced form of masturbation, just like phone sex is just enhanced masturbation quote:
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If online only doesn't do it for you then it doesn't do it for you. But to insult or minimize someone else for it is really something I can't wrap my mind around. What's the point of that, if not some form of mental masturbation?
Sigh. No need to be so sensitive. Read my comment to leadership. I was talking about any sexual aspect of an on-line relationship, that is why I used phone sex as the analogous example.. If you are having sex with someone who isn't physically there, isn't that by definition "masturbation"?
I'm not at all sensitive about it. I'm quite happy with my in-person relationship, and with life in general, so what someone thinks about an activity that I no longer do doesn't do a thing to my sensitivity. You're reading into my words.
But I do think it's in poor taste to discount what other people are doing, which doesn't affect you. You're not the only one who has done so on this thread. My words springboarded off your post, but weren't directed solely at your post.
As for you simply talking about the sexual aspect of it, it would have changed my reply had you stated that. Instead you said:
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I'm sure that those who enjoy on-line slavery would surely admit that on-line is simply an enhanced form of masturbation, just like phone sex is just enhanced masturbation
The above speaks about "slavery" not sex. Unless you view slavery as solely sex? But having read and agreed with many of your posts in the past, I don't think you do. So, with you saying online slavery = masturbation, that's what I spoke of.
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If you talked about books, or shared stories about how your day went, that's no different than having a pen pal. It is valid communication. I wasn't referring to those things.
Well see here you go again, and trust me, I'm not being sensitive about it, I'm just pointing something out (not everyone who points out a disagreement is being sensitive). Why would you say "pen pal?" We hardly ever wrote. We talked on the phone, however, all the time. The term "pen pal" has a connotation of something less meaningful than a 12 year friendship that touches the heart. Perhaps those who equate such a relationship as "pen pals" are unable to form a relationship more meaningful than "pals" unless they are face to face with the other person. I can understand those limitations, however I do not have them. So my whole point is, you are projecting your views on other people's experiences, and that's a practice I don't support.
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Many people view the sexual aspects of BDSM to be a key component of it. Yet, that component is severely limited in on-line only (IMO). But you can certainly have conversations on-line. I didn't mean to imply that you can't. (Didn't I mention that I've done on-line before? That should indicate that I think there are merits to it).
Except you said "slavery" not "BDSM". And the topic of this thread is "slavery" not sex, or BDSM. Slavery occurs between one's ears. If a person feels enslaved, then they allow themselves to be enslaved. Whether or not there is sex. Whether or not there is face to face contact. Whether or not anything.
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BTW, didn't you read the part of my original post where I said it was all a matter of personal preference? Having said that, if on-line only is your personal preference, then more power to you. I have no intention of insulting anyone. If you read my post in it's entirety, I don't think you'll find it to be offensive. I'm just sharing my opinion. Don't take it as anything more than that.
Did you not read my posts in which I said online only is NOT my personal preference and that I wouldn't do it again? You don't intent to insult, and trust me, *I* am not insulted, but you are still minimizing what others do, by referring to it as masturbation and/or simply "pals." Why state an opinion on someone else's experience at all? That's the part I'm just not getting.
Look, no hard feelings here, my issue isn't about my own history or what others think of it. I just don't get some of the things being stated in this thread (not just by you) so I pointed it out. I just don't get that the responses to this "online only" question that comes up from time to time tend to address the sexuality only. So I spoke up about it. Don't confuse that with being sensitive. That's kind of insulting too, if I let it be.
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