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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Bottom line wilbur. Should he suffer for what others did with his honestly reported data?

Obviously not. But just as obviously there are doubts as to whether it was honestly gathered/reported.

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Bottom line wilbur. Should he suffer for what others did with his honestly reported data?

Obviously not. But just as obviously there are doubts as to whether it was honestly gathered/reported.

Where do you get that idea?

The only ones that doubts the data was honestly reported are those who stand to lose a few hundred million in profits.

Dirty corporate tricks anyone?

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

http://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/scientists-administrative-leave-has-nothing-do-polar-bear-study

it gets curiouser, and curiouser.

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

"Dr. Charles Monnett, PhD, a wildlife biologist with the U.S. Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, Regulation and Enforcement (BOEM),"

He works for the US government.

They don't apply for grants, they submit a budget, presumably to the dept of the interior. Governmental agencies are rather sensetive to a phone call from a Senator are they not?

Senators are rather sensetive to phone calls from lobbyists who give them large campaign donations are they not?


Are you being deliberately obtuse today?

I see no evidence of false data. I see a LOT of circumstancial evidence that XYZ oil and energy, Inc. doesn't like this guy and wants him silenced so they called their pet senator(s).

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

"Dr. Charles Monnett, PhD, a wildlife biologist with the U.S. Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, Regulation and Enforcement (BOEM),"

He works for the US government.

They don't apply for grants, they submit a budget, presumably to the dept of the interior. Governmental agencies are rather sensetive to a phone call from a Senator are they not?

Senators are rather sensetive to phone calls from lobbyists who give them large campaign donations are they not?


Are you being deliberately obtuse today?

I see no evidence of false data. I see a LOT of circumstancial evidence that XYZ oil and energy, Inc. doesn't like this guy and wants him silenced so they called their pet senator(s).

Are you? Grant vs budget allocation, so sue me. Budgeting and granting them funds is the same fucking thing.

Again, all you have is vague feelings about what may be behind it. What I have is an overt, public action that no government agency would take without basis. We'll see when the investigation is done.

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

"Dr. Charles Monnett, PhD, a wildlife biologist with the U.S. Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, Regulation and Enforcement (BOEM),"

He works for the US government.

They don't apply for grants, they submit a budget, presumably to the dept of the interior. Governmental agencies are rather sensetive to a phone call from a Senator are they not?

Senators are rather sensetive to phone calls from lobbyists who give them large campaign donations are they not?


Are you being deliberately obtuse today?

I see no evidence of false data. I see a LOT of circumstancial evidence that XYZ oil and energy, Inc. doesn't like this guy and wants him silenced so they called their pet senator(s).

Are you? Grant vs budget allocation, so sue me. Budgeting and granting them funds is the same fucking thing.

Again, all you have is vague feelings about what may be behind it. What I have is an overt, public action that no government agency would take without basis. We'll see when the investigation is done.

Budgeting and granting funds for research are TOTALLY different. University then govt then private. I worked there for years, remember?

If you believe that a governmental agency wouldn't take action like that without basis just because senator so and so made a phone call, you are INCREDIBLY naive.

You are totally correct that I have a feeling (but no hard evidence) about what is behind it but it is far from vague.

Now, they are saying it doesn't have anything to do with his scientific integrity but they wont tell anyone including him why he is suspended so answer this, wilbur. Seriously, why is he suspended?

If you have a better idea, I'm listening.

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FR
Im surpised this didnt make it here yet, or did I miss it:

An Alabama-Huntsville study of NASA satellite data shows that CO2 traps far less heat than the UN and other climate models are using in their projections.

http://news.yahoo.com/nasa-data-blow-gaping-hold-global-warming-alarmism-192334971.html

http://greenanswers.com/news/254346/flaws-found-global-warming-hoax-hypothesis

You shouldn't believe anything written by a creationist.

ad hominem away and stamp your feet till your panties tear , little girl. Its all youve got.

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FR
Im surpised this didnt make it here yet, or did I miss it:

An Alabama-Huntsville study of NASA satellite data shows that CO2 traps far less heat than the UN and other climate models are using in their projections.

http://news.yahoo.com/nasa-data-blow-gaping-hold-global-warming-alarmism-192334971.html

http://greenanswers.com/news/254346/flaws-found-global-warming-hoax-hypothesis

You shouldn't believe anything written by a creationist.

ad hominem away and stamp your feet till your panties tear , little girl. Its all youve got.

Cry all you want. You still bought into bullshit published by a creationist in a journal not related to atmospheric or climate science.

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

My prediction is this.

Whoever gave the order to have him suspended (silenced) will quietly back off and we won't hear anything about it.

In 3 months, he will be back at his job doing what he has been doing for years. Of course in 3 months, the weather in that area will be too bad to perform surveys.

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My prediction is this.

Whoever gave the order to have him suspended (silenced) will quietly back off and we won't hear anything about it.

In 3 months, he will be back at his job doing what he has been doing for years. Of course in 3 months, the weather in that area will be too bad to perform surveys.

Once this is dropped FoI act requests will determine who started the IG investigation and that will show us exactly where the influence for this bogus attack came from.

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...he helped a polar bear researcher prepare a proposal even though he was the government official responsible for determining whether the proposal met minimum qualifications. He was away from his job for the last six weeks.

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You left out the best part, ken:

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...he helped a polar bear researcher prepare a proposal even though he was the government official responsible for determining whether the proposal met minimum qualifications. He was away from his job for the last six weeks.

[:D]

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


You left out the best part, ken:

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...he helped a polar bear researcher prepare a proposal even though he was the government official responsible for determining whether the proposal met minimum qualifications. He was away from his job for the last six weeks.

[:D]

I said he was guilty of helping a researcher write a proposal. Of course it is the job of the person who approves proposals to make sure they meet the minimum standards.

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Forgive sanity. he is unfamiliar with the process of anything requiring more than an 8th grade education.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Yeah, thats why you drooling leftard trolls devote your lives to shadowing me...  [:D]

This researcher was a disgrace and a fraud, but still he is celebrated as a hero by the Global Warming cultists

Par for the course

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
Forgive sanity. he is unfamiliar with the process of anything requiring more than an 8th grade education.