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RE: Polar Bear Researcher Suspended, Under Investigation - 8/27/2011 5:40:30 PM   
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Its about junk science, and the leftists whose religious faith depends on it

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does the scandal involve bear molestation? rawr!


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RE: Polar Bear Researcher Suspended, Under Investigation - 8/27/2011 5:42:09 PM   
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Its about junk science, and the leftists whose religious faith depends on it

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does the scandal involve bear molestation? rawr!


Actually it is about a top scientist being smeared for doing his job.

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RE: Polar Bear Researcher Suspended, Under Investigation - 8/27/2011 9:14:09 PM   
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Yeah, thats why you drooling leftard trolls devote your lives to shadowing me... 

This researcher was a disgrace and a fraud, but still he is celebrated as a hero by the Global Warming cultists

Par for the course

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Forgive sanity. he is unfamiliar with the process of anything requiring more than an 8th grade education.


Please point out his fraud sanity. Even those who suspended him said there was no fraud. As usual, you are either lying or full of shit.

As for following you. It is impossible to post in P & R without following a post of yours. Kind like dog shit in My back yard.

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RE: Polar Bear Researcher Suspended, Under Investigation - 8/28/2011 12:45:13 AM   
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for "Integrity Issues". This should be interesting. If nothing else millions of research dollars could questioned.




Oh FFS, from an inveterate ideologue who stares bare facts in the face and denies them repeatedly on ideological grounds, who apparently has no issue with the Koch brothers' funded billions of  "research" done by the Heritage Foundation and the Cato Institute, the anti-planetary-anything-other-than-supplying-us-free-federal-lands-logging-and-cattle-grazing-and-ethanol-subsidies ... etc., paragons of integrity all, we should point out (since their founders, the Koch brothers, are in fact too chickensh*t to point out or brag about what any others in absence of "integrity issues" would otherwise be all too happy to brag about)  that all is according to plan.


"Integrity" indeed.


Science is a Nietzschian affair in your world, no question.

Too bad you don't even know what that  means.





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RE: Polar Bear Researcher Suspended, Under Investigation - 8/28/2011 4:08:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't know, that all sounds much less interesting than a sex scandal with the polar bears, just doesn't seem scandalous unless there's some sex involved lol, those poor bears :-p

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RE: Polar Bear Researcher Suspended, Under Investigation - 8/28/2011 7:18:24 AM   
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You left out the best part, ken:

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...he helped a polar bear researcher prepare a proposal even though he was the government official responsible for determining whether the proposal met minimum qualifications. He was away from his job for the last six weeks.





I said he was guilty of helping a researcher write a proposal. Of course it is the job of the person who approves proposals to make sure they meet the minimum standards.


The article does not tell us what the agency's standard is for assisting in proposals. If he was the only one doing that job and he did not offer the same assistance to others, then he did act inappropriately. Of which he admitted to.

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RE: Polar Bear Researcher Suspended, Under Investigation - 8/28/2011 10:42:33 AM   
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No one can point out the obvious to a moron such as yourself

But to anyone with half a functioning mind, why would someone receive a six month suspension if there was nothing disgraceful, unethical, or fraudulent involved in what he did

Its pretty basic and simple stuff, but still way over certain peoples' heads

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Please point out his fraud sanity. Even those who suspended him said there was no fraud. As usual, you are either lying or full of shit.

As for following you. It is impossible to post in P & R without following a post of yours. Kind like dog shit in My back yard.


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RE: Polar Bear Researcher Suspended, Under Investigation - 8/28/2011 11:11:36 AM   
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No one can point out the obvious to a moron such as yourself

But to anyone with half a functioning mind, why would someone receive a six month suspension if there was nothing disgraceful, unethical, or fraudulent involved in what he did

Its pretty basic and simple stuff, but still way over certain peoples' heads

Actually it was six weeks not six months and it was a suspension while being investigated. The suspension was lifted but the investigation has not been closed. Suspensions aren't lifted during an investigation unless it is pretty clear the investigation is going to conclude in his favor.

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RE: Polar Bear Researcher Suspended, Under Investigation - 8/28/2011 11:30:58 AM   
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RE: Polar Bear Researcher Suspended, Under Investigation - 8/28/2011 11:31:03 AM   
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Hiring, Federal Environment Jobs: Integrity Not Required



WaPo reports on the back of its A section today that

An Interior Department​ scientist returned to work Friday, six weeks after he was suspended in connection with a probe of whether he improperly assisted another polar bear researcher in obtaining a federal contract.... Monnett was being investigated for improperly helping a researcher at Canada's University of Alberta draft a response to a federal request for proposals on a polar bear study. Monnett chaired the committee that eventually awarded the contract to the university.

In the letter, the special agent in charge quotes the contract officer as saying that if Monnett had informed her about his collaboration with the University of Alberta researcher, "she would have warned you that such actions would have been highly inappropriate under procurement integrity policies and procedures."

Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, Regulation and Enforcement spokeswoman Melissa Schwartz wrote in an e-mail that Monnett "was informed that he will have no role in developing or managing contracts of any kind, and will instead be in our environmental assessment division."

Because, apparently, integrity is not so much a concern there.



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RE: Polar Bear Researcher Suspended, Under Investigation - 8/28/2011 11:46:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		As usual your abysmal lack of knowledge of science is making you look foolish.

Scientists routinely get input from the people who review grant proposals. Scientists are neither trained writers nor lawyers so they need guidance clearly stating their goals so as to fit the agency's goals and the relevant legal requirements. If Monnett broke any contracting rules or laws he would most definitely not be unsuspended and would be looking at criminal charges. Instead he is back at work.


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RE: Polar Bear Researcher Suspended, Under Investigation - 8/28/2011 12:03:35 PM   
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Who is looking foolish? Try again, ken. He is back at work in another division, and still under investigation.

All after a lengthy suspension...


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RE: Polar Bear Researcher Suspended, Under Investigation - 8/28/2011 12:06:23 PM   
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Not to mention, all this is is happening in an agency under the direct control of the Obama administration

These are your own people doing this


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RE: Polar Bear Researcher Suspended, Under Investigation - 8/28/2011 2:55:39 PM   
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Who is looking foolish? Try again, ken. He is back at work in another division, and still under investigation.

All after a lengthy suspension...


He is back at work which never happens when someone is suspended while under investigation. The whole keeping the investigation open is clearly an attempt to avoid having to completely clear him. In a few months they will quietly close the investigation and hope it doesn't make the papers again.

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RE: Polar Bear Researcher Suspended, Under Investigation - 8/28/2011 3:08:48 PM   
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Never happens just happened...

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Who is looking foolish? Try again, ken. He is back at work in another division, and still under investigation.

All after a lengthy suspension...


He is back at work which never happens when someone is suspended while under investigation. The whole keeping the investigation open is clearly an attempt to avoid having to completely clear him. In a few months they will quietly close the investigation and hope it doesn't make the papers again.


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RE: Polar Bear Researcher Suspended, Under Investigation - 8/28/2011 3:24:16 PM   
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Peer reviewed and classed as pointless, useless and wrong..
Otherwise a proposal writing investigation does not make his research and figures wrong.
guessing is mindless crap without proof.


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RE: Polar Bear Researcher Suspended, Under Investigation - 8/28/2011 10:06:32 PM   
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No one can point out the obvious to a moron such as yourself

But to anyone with half a functioning mind, why would someone receive a six month suspension if there was nothing disgraceful, unethical, or fraudulent involved in what he did

Its pretty basic and simple stuff, but still way over certain peoples' heads

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Please point out his fraud sanity. Even those who suspended him said there was no fraud. As usual, you are either lying or full of shit.

As for following you. It is impossible to post in P & R without following a post of yours. Kind like dog shit in My back yard.


You ignore the FACT that I pointed out that there was no fraud. The agency that suspended him refused to say why except to say there was no fraud involved.


As for half a brain. You have a ways to go to get there.

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RE: Polar Bear Researcher Suspended, Under Investigation - 8/28/2011 10:08:28 PM   
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There's been a fraud! Let's kill those bloody bears with axes!
(And so on...)

You go first. I'll watch and film.

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RE: Polar Bear Researcher Suspended, Under Investigation - 8/29/2011 3:03:07 PM   
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You left out the best part, ken:

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...he helped a polar bear researcher prepare a proposal even though he was the government official responsible for determining whether the proposal met minimum qualifications. He was away from his job for the last six weeks.





I said he was guilty of helping a researcher write a proposal. Of course it is the job of the person who approves proposals to make sure they meet the minimum standards.


The article does not tell us what the agency's standard is for assisting in proposals. If he was the only one doing that job and he did not offer the same assistance to others, then he did act inappropriately. Of which he admitted to.



If its the same as DoD they are not permitted to assist in the preparation proposals at all.

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RE: Polar Bear Researcher Suspended, Under Investigation - 8/29/2011 4:36:33 PM   
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You left out the best part, ken:

quote:

...he helped a polar bear researcher prepare a proposal even though he was the government official responsible for determining whether the proposal met minimum qualifications. He was away from his job for the last six weeks.





I said he was guilty of helping a researcher write a proposal. Of course it is the job of the person who approves proposals to make sure they meet the minimum standards.


The article does not tell us what the agency's standard is for assisting in proposals. If he was the only one doing that job and he did not offer the same assistance to others, then he did act inappropriately. Of which he admitted to.



If its the same as DoD they are not permitted to assist in the preparation proposals at all.

Guess DARPA isn't in the DoD anymore.
https://www.fbo.gov/download/7d9/7d995c7ce67d43f254685cb99780ffa0/DARPA-BAA-11-65.pdf
Note page 38 where there is a technical POC. That's the guy who will help you out if you are working on a proposal.

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