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Well, good for you, for what it's worth.  The question at hand in my mind is should Glass-Steagall be put back in law.  My answer yes. 

Regarding everyone lost on the budget deal (which was the original statement on this thread) my answer was yes.

Instead of being an insufferable fucking dolt, perhaps you should have said that initially.  I think Glass Steagall should be reinstated and that the former president you sound like you would like to dance the fellatio tango with never should have vetoed its repeal and bears responsibility for not doing so.

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ORIGINAL: MusicalBoredom

I agree with not loosing our mind over things Willbeur.  I just want there to be an honest and fact based discussion about those things.  If a company says that they want to completely poison 10 acres (but only 10 acres) of land but it will generate 1000 jobs and put $100M into the economy then I'd likely go for that.  If they said they want to poison an entire states water supply so they can double their profit then I would NOT go for that.  What I typically hear is an argument that sounds like "it's bad for the environment" verses "we will create jobs."  I can't make any opinion at all on that kind of nonsense.  I need to know how bad for the environment and how many jobs and I need the real and honest data for that.  I don't need to hear one news source saying we are all going to die of cancer tomorrow because of Company A and another news source saying that the entire worlds economy is going to fall apart if Company A doesn't get to do whatever it's trying to do.

Man, you can't be that fucking simple. Show me one time where you can exaclty state..."oh I am only going to poison 10 acres and nothing else". Live in realtiy

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Technically, genius, people ARE animals. 

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And that doesnt mean that we cant look at it the opposite way and understand that 25k in SoCal is under a lot more stress than 250k. In fact once I got my ass off of friends' floors I was sleeping on and then out of the Army my income in todays dollars was probably about $28k in pre-gentrification Hoboken. It was a struggle without a roommate and no car needed. I cant imagine having to live on that in SoCal, where a car is nearly mandatory to get to work.

No, you can't. That isn't a slam, Willbe, it is just a fact. BTW, along with taxes, rent, and utilities, I do have car payments. and insurance payments.

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The problem is the nation is at that proverbial point of being between a rock and a hard place. Either we control our debt, or it will control us, and we're running out of options. We can't simply keep driving the ceiling up and borrowing more. The negative impact of doing so is about the same as not spending, and therein lies the crux of the problem. Spending drives economies. That's why we had a stimulus. It didn't matter that reams were written by plenty of folks from right to left over why it wouldn't work, and why we'd end up needing another, and another and another. What mattered is that it helped push the economy along in hopes that the jump-start would stave off a steeper drop and level things off long enough for the economy to recover on it's own.