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ORIGINAL: joether

blah, blah, blah, blah, blah....

Do you even read your own material? General Electric made $5.3 BILLLION in gross profit this last taxable year. It got $62.5 million in subsidies from the US Goverment. It paid LESS in taxes than I did. I make more that $35K/year but less than $75K/year. So explain to me how I, had to pay taxes and General Electric DIDN'T? In fact, we the goverment, PAID GE just to do business in our country. Gosh, wish I was paid money just to work in this country by the goverment....

They are not the only company that did this. Most companies did not pay the full sets of taxes. Some of them didnt pay much compared to thier gross taxes. When they dont pay their fair share of taxes, who gets to pay the difference: The Middle Class.

Why is it that I have to pay thousands of times MORE in taxes, than a company that made many thousands MORE than I did last year? Does that sound fair to you Mr. Conservative?

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

Yes. It's staggering that some people defend a regime that pays millions and millions to multi-nationals yet feign outrage at giving a miserable few hundred dollars to those in need, and insist that healthcare for the needy will bankrupt the country and all the rest of that hysterical wing nut nonsense.

Any one with a basic sense of decency or fairness will be repulsed by such naked greed and hypocrisy, no matter what specious rationale is advanced to defend it. Inequality is injustice and too much of it will provoke civil unrest and rebellion sooner or later.

If you aren't disgusted by this injustice, you need to take a good look at your values.

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ORIGINAL: lockedaway

You are such a funny man, Rodgers.  You whine and bitch about money being consolidated by the rich.  Poor baby.  Poor, poor Rodgers.  You know something...I make more money every year.  Know why?  It is like building up speed.  Building up momentum.  So I make more because I don't squander what little I had going in.  I build on it.  And YOU, of course, have a PROBLEM with it because it isn't flowing into your pocket. 

Really...you don't see that as pathetic?  As envious?  You don't see the rank jealousy in how you feel?  Look...I do a couple of things for a living.  None of them are all that clamorous.  I'm not boarding my private Gulf Stream IV to sign some business deal in Zurich.  But God love the people that are....good for them.  Except, perhaps, by backing a left wing socialist like O'scumbag, they have done nothing to hold me back or reduce what I earn.  Now...if I invented something that made me 100's of millions, I would be hated by you even more, right?  You would demand that I live on less so you could have more rather than you going out and earning it yourself...right?  Right.

"ooooooooohhhhhh...the wealth is consolidated!  Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah....I will never have wealth and its not fair!"  Gonna hold your breath now???  I made my money without doing anything to hold you back.  Millions of people have made 1,000's of times more money than me...................................and they did it without holding me back.  Grow the fuck up, work harder, spend less time on this board and use your imagination and you will probably be much wealthier this time next year than you are now.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Just healthcare for the needy, and not free government healthcare for the rich and everyone else?

We already had that, a long time ago. Who isnt for that.

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

Yes. It's staggering that some people defend a regime that pays millions and millions to multi-nationals yet feign outrage at giving a miserable few hundred dollars to those in need, and insist that healthcare for the needy will bankrupt the country and all the rest of that hysterical wing nut nonsense.

Any one with a basic sense of decency or fairness will be repulsed by such naked greed and hypocrisy, no matter what specious rationale is advanced to defend it. Inequality is injustice and too much of it will provoke civil unrest and rebellion sooner or later.

If you aren't disgusted by this injustice, you need to take a good look at your values.

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle


My Sanity! I'm sure the Kochs, Murdochs and Becks of this world are grateful for your unswerving loyalty to their further enrichment and your vapid repetition of the opinions they have ordained their servile servants must advocate. Do you really think they lie awake in bed wondering how to shower you with gratitude for your sterling, unfailing defence of their interests?

Why do you worship the rich and wealthy so much? Are you lacking self belief and feel a need to hover in their protective shadow? Do you hope that they will reward you for your servile devotion to their interests? Surely you aren't that stupid ... though, truth be told, the jury might still be out on that one.

Here's news for you darling - the Kochs, Murdochs and Becks of this world despise your craven subservience to their interests. They'll use you for as long as you're useful and then discard you like last week's newspaper. Wake up to yourself.

If all you can do is sneer at suggestions for equality - you are merely confirming my point about some people needing to examine their values. The values underwriting your post have to be sad and ugly.

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Oh you misjudge me. I love how you feel and I might even possibly hire you because you just might be a very good worker. Then I'll pay you very well even say...$100,000/yr salary. Thing is of course you'll take home say $60-$65,000 paying a 35% fed. tax. Meanwhile my partnership that you helped so well...cashed out those projects you worked so well on...made $millions and paid 15% fed. tax. Thank you...thank you very much.

Now I take 85% of my millions and you take 65% of your $100,000 or $65,000 to the marketplace and we do it all over again next year. Now just whose wealth is going to really begin to add up...real fucking quick too ? Mine, or yours ? Oh, and now I am going to branch out into stocks.

Still because I risk my capital and hold a year, when I cash out, I pay 15% fed, tax. You could risk your life obviously less important to society, say on an oil platform or coal mine...and pay 35%. Thank you...thank you very much.