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LadyConstanze -> RE: how much does the physical matter? (8/17/2011 3:59:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt Scientists are still trying to figure out the chemistry of physical attraction, but clearly pheromones are a large factor. Like all mammals, humans are subject to having their behavior or physiology altered by instinctive reactions to a potential mate. Which is why if you don't like how someone smells, it's a deal breaker. Maybe a year or two ago I read an interesting study about smell, apparently it's a good indicator on genetic compatibility - meaning the other person's genes will compliment your chromosomes and keep defective genes as low as possible. Smell plays quite an important role, when I picked up girlie dog (I was only supposed to meet her so the previous owner could decide if I would give her a good home) she tried to climb on my lap and was all over me, I was quite chuffed especially since she shunned a lot of other people and thought I found a canine soul mate (not to mention a shadow for the rest of my natural life or hers), lately it was explained to me that I just smell "right" to her, still beats the explanation of "She's a clever dog and smelled a soft touch". As somebody mentioned the pill, years ago when I had an IUD fitted, the thing the OB Gyn told me was "If you aren't 100% happy with your partner, you'll stray" and explained how the pill suppresses the female sex drive AND the sense of smell, which would make sense as the pill makes your body believe that you are already pregnant... Btw I didn't stray - I ditched him!

kalikshama -> RE: how much does the physical matter? (8/17/2011 4:04:50 PM)
quote: I'm dreaming, but I'd really love to see an ambitious study that compared the mean testosterone levels of men from the James Dean era with mean testosterone levels of contemporary men. You'd have to control for a large number of potentially confounding factors (diet, etc.), but still--tantalizing. I aim to please: http://www.ourstolenfuture.org/newscience/reproduction/2006/2006-1210travisonetal.html The strongest association was observed in same-aged men from different sampling years. For example, a 65-year-old in 2002 had lower testosterone levels than a 65-year-old in 1987.

tj444 -> RE: how much does the physical matter? (8/17/2011 4:07:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze As somebody mentioned the pill, years ago when I had an IUD fitted, the thing the OB Gyn told me was "If you aren't 100% happy with your partner, you'll stray" and explained how the pill suppresses the female sex drive AND the sense of smell, which would make sense as the pill makes your body believe that you are already pregnant... Btw I didn't stray - I ditched him! but did you ditch him cuz you smelled the real him or cuz it wasnt going to work with him regardless of the pill or IUD? Hmmm.. if that theory is true, then i wonder if that explains such a high divorce rate (especially once couples have kids)? the pill has not been around that long, and the previous generation didnt divorce nearly as much, now did they?

LadyConstanze -> RE: how much does the physical matter? (8/17/2011 4:26:21 PM)
To be honest, I ditched him because I found out that he was not single, went through a painful IUD fitting for nothing... But I did notice that my dating behavior changed after having the IUD fitted, guys I previously found attractive lost their appeal completely, I still react to certain visual triggers (very tall and dark haired, preferably with light eyes) but since then I also donated one ovary and both tubes to the big C so I am not on any contraceptives, since I still give my body the impression of being fertile, yeah, things have changed as to who I find attractive, and pretty often I find a guy attractive and in close proximity I don't anymore because he smells wrong, and more often somebody from a few yards away might look attractive until he opens the mouth ;)

tj444 -> RE: how much does the physical matter? (8/17/2011 7:43:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze But I did notice that my dating behavior changed after having the IUD fitted, guys I previously found attractive lost their appeal completely, I still react to certain visual triggers (very tall and dark haired, preferably with light eyes) but since then I also donated one ovary and both tubes to the big C so I am not on any contraceptives, since I still give my body the impression of being fertile, yeah, things have changed as to who I find attractive, and pretty often I find a guy attractive and in close proximity I don't anymore because he smells wrong, and more often somebody from a few yards away might look attractive until he opens the mouth ;) I think it would be interesting to see if there is a correlation between going off the pill and the number of divorces.. I dont think anyone will pay to study that but it would be interesting to me.

DecadentDesire -> RE: how much does the physical matter? (8/17/2011 8:26:55 PM)
Since acts of physical, overpowering dominance is a large part of my sexual drive, I'm attracted to short, petite women. Typically, I am not as physically attracted to women I cannot easily pick-up and carry across the room. (I would say I have a fair amount of upper body strength so that's not a small demographic). How important is it? Physical attraction is what gets me to the door. It's the reason why I choose to approach a girl in a grocery store or coffee shop. However, emotional and mental capability is typically what keeps me there. In light of that, I would say I need both. I've turned down woman I have found stunningly beautiful, because we had nothing in common and women who I have a lot in common with, because there was no physical and sexual chemistry.

NiceGuyNihilist -> RE: how much does the physical matter? (8/17/2011 10:49:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kalikshama quote: I'm dreaming, but I'd really love to see an ambitious study that compared the mean testosterone levels of men from the James Dean era with mean testosterone levels of contemporary men. You'd have to control for a large number of potentially confounding factors (diet, etc.), but still--tantalizing. I aim to please: http://www.ourstolenfuture.org/newscience/reproduction/2006/2006-1210travisonetal.html The strongest association was observed in same-aged men from different sampling years. For example, a 65-year-old in 2002 had lower testosterone levels than a 65-year-old in 1987. Holy shit. Assuming we can trust the article's claim that health and lifestyle factors were adequately controlled for, the number of possible causes of the testosterone decline is pretty small--or at least it seems so to me. A part of me almost hopes that the pussification of males by females via selective breeding is the primary culprit. Meet NiceGuyNihilist's Razor: "The most sinister explanation deserves to be the right one."

LillyBoPeep -> RE: how much does the physical matter? (8/18/2011 5:34:33 AM)
i wonder if it's possible that all the hormones in food have something to do with that? but that's definitely a trend i'd like to see reversed... weird...

Nineviles -> RE: how much does the physical matter? (8/18/2011 7:53:19 AM)
Physical attraction matters less to men. Women are more picky and plenty of sub women aren't going to allow a man to sexually dominant them unless they find the Dom sexually appealing. On the other hand, both sub and dom men don't have to be fully attracted to want to engage a woman- their just happy a woman said yes.

Hillwilliam -> RE: how much does the physical matter? (8/18/2011 7:54:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nineviles On the other hand, both sub and dom men don't have to be fully attracted to want to engage a woman- their just happy a woman said yes. Maybe you are. I'm a bit picky in My old age.

MyVision -> RE: how much does the physical matter? (8/18/2011 7:55:16 AM)
quote: Physical attraction matters less to men. Women are more picky True we fuck all. ;)

Nineviles -> RE: how much does the physical matter? (8/18/2011 7:57:22 AM)
Aging changes things. Luckily when our hormones settle in those later years, we are less compelled to seek out that which sexually gets us going.

Hillwilliam -> RE: how much does the physical matter? (8/18/2011 8:03:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nineviles Aging changes things. Luckily when our hormones settle in those later years, we are less compelled to seek out that which sexually gets us going. Actually, I'm more compelled to seek out that which sexually gets me going. That's why I'm picky. My big head does more of the thinking these days instead of the little head and ya know what's interesting? More truly pretty young ladies approach Me than when I was 28 and ripped. That's frequently cited as the difference between a man and a boy. [:D]

Nineviles -> RE: how much does the physical matter? (8/18/2011 8:10:38 AM)
Oh yeah, for sure. Me too. I have swarms of hot women approaching me with a slightly chubby belly than when I was a younger, more ripped and defined man. Oh yeah baby. Women look for chubbier, older men with soft and undefined muscles and aging sperm because it screams GREAT fucking breeding genes. Yeah.

Hillwilliam -> RE: how much does the physical matter? (8/18/2011 8:17:15 AM)
No, in My experience, they look for a non-hormonally ruled man with a brain. Someone who is established and not expecting a chick to fuck him on the first date "cuz I got a cool car with 20 inch rims and 1000 watts of boom in da back baby" Someone who knows what is truly good versus what is trendy. Someone who will talk to their face instead of their tits. Someone who will introduce them to a neat microbrew from Oregon they discovered instead of saying "yo, I got some heinies". Women tend to look for maturity as long as the package isnt too damaged instead of a pretty wrapper surrounding an 'empty box'. If you ever get past that 'empty box' stage, you might learn that in a few decades.

Nineviles -> RE: how much does the physical matter? (8/18/2011 8:29:21 AM)
No, young women don't want to breed with soft, aging men with aging sperm. Their bodies want young, healthy men. Aging men may be more interesting to talk with and even possibly learn from if the man isn't a tool for sure, but young men are more arousing to fuck than an aging, softer man with not so tight skin and asses.

Hillwilliam -> RE: how much does the physical matter? (8/18/2011 8:37:16 AM)
Yer funny as hell Nine. Ya might wanna tell that to a certain little redhead sub that's a bit less than half My age. [8D] As for breeding, No kids allowed out of this coupling. I don't wanna raise one and she doesn't either. As for young men, she detests them for the reasons I mentioned above as well as a few dozen more. Face it. Just cause you arent getting it doesn't mean noone is. I'm getting a feeling you're from a errrrrm different culture. S Asia maybe?

Nineviles -> RE: how much does the physical matter? (8/18/2011 8:41:56 AM)
Gee, I must have hit a nerve on you, lol. Predictable. You will know about my sex life and what I am or am not getting if you ask like a polite boy. Now, can you stay on track, huh? If young women had the choice between a hard bodied young man, or an older, aging man with aging sperm, they would pick the young man to fuck. Maybe they would like to have conversations with the aging man but he's not as sexually appealing as a young man with a hard ass. There's a reason why soft asses, sagging skin and aging sperm doesn't excite women and it's because that stuff isn't good quality breeding material. Don't take it personally.

Buzzzz -> RE: how much does the physical matter? (8/18/2011 8:42:22 AM)
I am attracted to petite and cute women. And I am a tall dude. Don't know why, they just turn me on.

Hillwilliam -> RE: how much does the physical matter? (8/18/2011 8:57:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nineviles Gee, I must have hit a nerve on you, lol. Predictable. You will know about my sex life and what I am or am not getting if you ask like a polite boy. Now, can you stay on track, huh? If young women had the choice between a hard bodied young man, or an older, aging man with aging sperm, they would pick the young man to fuck. Maybe they would like to have conversations with the aging man but he's not as sexually appealing as a young man with a hard ass. There's a reason why soft asses, sagging skin and aging sperm doesn't excite women and it's because that stuff isn't good quality breeding material. Don't take it personally. Sorry, I'm still saying that a half century plus of RL experience on this planet says the opposite. You seem to be obsessed with aging sperm. Does it taste bad or someting? I havent had any complaints as long as I drink plenty of pineapple juice [8D] . Women (not little girls) tend to like men as mates, not boys.

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