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dovie -> RE: how much does the physical matter? (8/19/2011 5:40:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: NiceGuyNihilist

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ORIGINAL: Nineviles

Gee, I must have hit a nerve on you, lol. Predictable. You will know about my sex life and what I am or am not getting if you ask like a polite boy.

Now, can you stay on track, huh?

If young women had the choice between a hard bodied young man, or an older, aging man with aging sperm, they would pick the young man to fuck. Maybe they would like to have conversations with the aging man but he's not as sexually appealing as a young man with a hard ass. There's a reason why soft asses, sagging skin and aging sperm doesn't excite women and it's because that stuff isn't good quality breeding material. Don't take it personally.


No offense, but your understanding of evolutionary biology (which is what I presume you're basing your argument on) is quite crude. In some cases (I'm thinking across species here), it may make logical sense for a female to choose an older male to mate with because, obviously, he has proven himself able to survive into old age. Assuming it is his genes which gave him that survival ability, she may benefit her offspring by endowing them with the same genes. I say "may" because it's possible that the reason the male survived into old age is that he is not a risk taker. If he's a survivor because he's risk-averse--say he was never inclined to fight other males for the chance to mate--the female may actually be doing her offspring a disservice by giving them the genes that caused that behavior. But let that pass. The point is that it does not hold water to say that a female can't be attracted to an older male on a biological level just because he's old.



Talk like the talk outlined in beautiful blue font makes my panties warm!
Just saying!  Oh! If he has a little round soft belly and a melodious voice...

*sigh SWOONSSSSSS
 
dovie




NiceGuyNihilist -> RE: how much does the physical matter? (8/19/2011 11:09:57 PM)

"Getting all professorial on a bitch's ass" should be a canonized kink. Hey, there's a new one for FetLife!

And thank you very much. :)








dovie -> RE: how much does the physical matter? (8/20/2011 7:13:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: NiceGuyNihilist

"Getting all professorial on a bitch's ass" should be a canonized kink. Hey, there's a new one for FetLife!

And thank you very much. :)







nom nom

dovie




sexyred1 -> RE: maybe not "the physical" but sexual polarity? (8/20/2011 9:35:05 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LillyBoPeep

so do you think you somehow ignored the "not mentally compatible" signals?
why do you think that was?




Why? Because it is possible to be totally into someone because of their looks and the great sex and how you make each other feel from a physical perspective and still not be mentally or emotionally compatible.

I am not saying that is a healthy thing, but it happens quite often in life.

And I would not say that you "somehow" ignore the problem. There is either awareness or not. You choose to ignore it, or you walk away. If you choose to ignore it, then you can only blame yourself for staying in something that was grounded in the physical.




Nineviles -> RE: how much does the physical matter? (8/21/2011 11:49:50 AM)


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ORIGINAL: NiceGuyNihilist

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ORIGINAL: Nineviles

Gee, I must have hit a nerve on you, lol. Predictable. You will know about my sex life and what I am or am not getting if you ask like a polite boy.

Now, can you stay on track, huh?

If young women had the choice between a hard bodied young man, or an older, aging man with aging sperm, they would pick the young man to fuck. Maybe they would like to have conversations with the aging man but he's not as sexually appealing as a young man with a hard ass. There's a reason why soft asses, sagging skin and aging sperm doesn't excite women and it's because that stuff isn't good quality breeding material. Don't take it personally.


No offense, but your understanding of evolutionary biology (which is what I presume you're basing your argument on) is quite crude. In some cases (I'm thinking across species here), it may make logical sense for a female to choose an older male to mate with because, obviously, he has proven himself able to survive into old age. Assuming it is his genes which gave him that survival ability, she may benefit her offspring by endowing them with the same genes. I say "may" because it's possible that the reason the male survived into old age is that he is not a risk taker. If he's a survivor because he's risk-averse--say he was never inclined to fight other males for the chance to mate--the female may actually be doing her offspring a disservice by giving them the genes that caused that behavior. But let that pass. The point is that it does not hold water to say that a female can't be attracted to an older male on a biological level just because he's old.

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Modern medicine.  A man that survived to reach his 40's and 50's is no sure indication of a healthy man because diseases like cancer, heart disease, diabetes, ectera, can be managed and contained by modern medicine.  


Further who knows if these diseases are in his genetic makeup where eventually he'll get cancer and whatnot later on in 60s after which time he won't even be looked at sexually anyway.

 

But more to the point, saggy skin and saggy ass and soft muscles on a man isn't sexually arousing to most young women,  as like a young man with hard abs and a  tight, firm body.  

Finally, older men over 35 are a liability to healthy babies and can pose a threat to having healthy offspring:

June 2003 issue of The Journal of Urology: For father's over 35, the incidence of Down syndrome is related to sperm approximately 50% of the time."



2004 issue of the American Journal of Gynecology.   A Man's chances of fathering a child decrease with each passing year. The odds of a successful pregnancy fell by 11% every year. And, worse, their chances for obtaining a successful live birth declined even farther. 







Hillwilliam -> RE: how much does the physical matter? (8/22/2011 8:07:36 AM)

Ya know, Nine. You have a dozen people telling you that you're full of shit and you still stay with your "Boys R Better" line.

I guess you're still a boy. Hopefuully, you'll learn some day.

By the way, I had an awesome weekend. I guess you were too busy posting for female companionship to intrude eh?




ClassIsInSession -> RE: how much does the physical matter? (8/22/2011 9:41:03 PM)

LOL, what's tickling me is this saggy skin and soft asses concept, what age exactly are you referring to? I'm 42 and my skin doesn't sag, nor is my ass soft, a lot of what you're implying boils down to how good a person is with regard to dieting, exercise and sleep.

As to breeding, my biological clock stopped ticking a long time ago. I'm in no hurry to go out and make babies, and I know plenty of women who aren't stuck on this concept either.

I think you're missing the whole concept that attraction isn't purely physical, and that women's arousal comes from as widely a variable combination of factors as men's....perhaps even more so.

I can tell you for sure that the experience I've gained in my maturity, from conversational skills...wisdom in dealing with life issues and yes, pleasuring techniques haven't gotten complaints. But then I'm not marking notches in my headboard. I'm proud of the fact that I haven't had a porn stars list of fuck buddies. My relationships tend to last many years.

Being a quality person, confident and at peace with yourself, healthy and well groomed, humorous and intelligent are to me the key factors.




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