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RE: Understanding Ballbusting - 8/17/2011 12:34:13 PM   
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Ballbusting is nothing to be ashamed of or embarassed about.
  Oh, I disagree.  I think it's fucking hysterical.  And frankly, if a woman confessed to me that she would like nothing more than to be punched in the cunt, I'd think she's fucked in the head too.


I can appreciate your opinion. While I do my best to respect people who are into eating other people's poop, I have a hard, hard time trying to accept it. I find it disturbing, partially hysterical and very disgusting. However, I do my best to put myself in their shoes as well as not be hypocritical.

Thank you for your response. I disagree with it, but I do appreciate it.

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RE: Understanding Ballbusting - 8/17/2011 12:36:27 PM   
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And frankly, if a woman confessed to me that she would like nothing more than to be punched in the cunt, I'd think she's fucked in the head too.

I think we know different women.

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RE: Understanding Ballbusting - 8/17/2011 12:42:50 PM   
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And frankly, if a woman confessed to me that she would like nothing more than to be punched in the cunt, I'd think she's fucked in the head too.


I know a woman that likes to be punched in the boobs....and I mean hardcore punched. No slapping or tieing them up. I have seen her dom hit her hard enough to make her tits grow in size, and once cracked her ribs. And I personally think she is a nutter.

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RE: Understanding Ballbusting - 8/17/2011 12:42:51 PM   
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No, I do not have a question. Although I do wonder why some forms of BDSM deem appropriate or acceptable while others do not. That I overall question. Why is choking and spanking for instance seen as "ok" by society, where as something like ballbusting or whipping is not.

If you honestly think that choking has some uniform acceptance among those who are interested in kink, you haven't done much reading outside of your own particular fetish.  Try topics such as face slapping, electric, fire, cuttings, needles, and darn near anything else that folks want to distinguish one type of play from the other and you'll see the same reception.

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I have spoken with many men and women who are into ballbusting and while I can only write from my perspective I tried to voice for many of them. What I wrote about the public Vs private issues, the sexuality of the activity and the trying to get outsiders to understand are feelings that many of us share. The only real just me part of the post was explaining why I enjoy ballbusting.

While you may have discussed it with a number of folks, the mistake is in attempting to sound like you've got the popular vote.  I can sit here and promise you that there are just as many masochists out there who want the activity for the pain, not the sexuality involved in it.

Just from what you've written on this particular thread, I can give you My word that I have certain kinks that you absolutely do not understand, nor would you want to participate in them.  Seriously, I'm cool with that.  It isn't My job to make you want to understand about kinks that you don't enjoy and I don't feel the need to try to explain them unless someone comes along with a particular question.  There's a difference between folks wanting to learn about something and not giving a toss because other people are out there doing their own thing.  Your post didn't offend anybody, though I would be willing to wager that it fills the latter category.


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RE: Understanding Ballbusting - 8/17/2011 12:49:03 PM   
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No, I do not have a question. Although I do wonder why some forms of BDSM deem appropriate or acceptable while others do not. That I overall question. Why is choking and spanking for instance seen as "ok" by society, where as something like ballbusting or whipping is not.

If you honestly think that choking has some uniform acceptance among those who are interested in kink, you haven't done much reading outside of your own particular fetish.  Try topics such as face slapping, electric, fire, cuttings, needles, and darn near anything else that folks want to distinguish one type of play from the other and you'll see the same reception.

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I have spoken with many men and women who are into ballbusting and while I can only write from my perspective I tried to voice for many of them. What I wrote about the public Vs private issues, the sexuality of the activity and the trying to get outsiders to understand are feelings that many of us share. The only real just me part of the post was explaining why I enjoy ballbusting.

While you may have discussed it with a number of folks, the mistake is in attempting to sound like you've got the popular vote.  I can sit here and promise you that there are just as many masochists out there who want the activity for the pain, not the sexuality involved in it.

Just from what you've written on this particular thread, I can give you My word that I have certain kinks that you absolutely do not understand, nor would you want to participate in them.  Seriously, I'm cool with that.  It isn't My job to make you want to understand about kinks that you don't enjoy and I don't feel the need to try to explain them unless someone comes along with a particular question.  There's a difference between folks wanting to learn about something and not giving a toss because other people are out there doing their own thing.  Your post didn't offend anybody, though I would be willing to wager that it fills the latter category.




I have done research on choking, which is why I posted what I did about it. I will however, look up more research on it as well as the other topics that you mentioned.

To me there's a difference between not understanding and not wanting to participate in them and being hostile towards those whom have fetishes I don't like/agree with.

To me it's very hypocritical and rather wrong to look at someone who likes to have people poop on them as if they're really screwed up and need to be alienated when I myself enjoy something equally as seen myself.

That's really a major point I was trying to get at but obviously failed. I just think that it's very hypocritical for someone to judge someone harshly for liking a few swift kicks in the balls, when they for example like having 14 inch dildos shoved up their butt. In my opinion, I guess to each their own and I respect all fetishes, including those I do not like or understand.

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RE: Understanding Ballbusting - 8/17/2011 12:51:00 PM   
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I have done research on choking, which is why I posted what I did about it. I will however, look up more research on it as well as the other topics that you mentioned.

To me there's a difference between not understanding and not wanting to participate in them and being hostile towards those whom have fetishes I don't like/agree with.

To me it's very hypocritical and rather wrong to look at someone who likes to have people poop on them as if they're really screwed up and need to be alienated when I myself enjoy something equally as seen myself.

That's really a major point I was trying to get at but obviously failed. I just think that it's very hypocritical for someone to judge someone harshly for liking a few swift kicks in the balls, when they for example like having 14 inch dildos shoved up their butt. In my opinion, I guess to each their own and I respect all fetishes, including those I do not like or understand.

You might want to be really careful throwing that word "hypocrite" around.

Just sayin'.


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RE: Understanding Ballbusting - 8/17/2011 12:54:16 PM   
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I have done research on choking, which is why I posted what I did about it. I will however, look up more research on it as well as the other topics that you mentioned.

To me there's a difference between not understanding and not wanting to participate in them and being hostile towards those whom have fetishes I don't like/agree with.

To me it's very hypocritical and rather wrong to look at someone who likes to have people poop on them as if they're really screwed up and need to be alienated when I myself enjoy something equally as seen myself.

That's really a major point I was trying to get at but obviously failed. I just think that it's very hypocritical for someone to judge someone harshly for liking a few swift kicks in the balls, when they for example like having 14 inch dildos shoved up their butt. In my opinion, I guess to each their own and I respect all fetishes, including those I do not like or understand.

You might want to be really careful throwing that word "hypocrite" around.

Just sayin'.



I am not directly calling anyone a hypocrite. I am simply stating that if I were to harshly judge someone for their particular fetish, for example liking to get pooped on, that it would make me a hypocrite.

If that offends someone, then I guess it offends someone. I do not see anything offensive within it myself and will keep it as posted.

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RE: Understanding Ballbusting - 8/17/2011 12:56:25 PM   
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And frankly, if a woman confessed to me that she would like nothing more than to be punched in the cunt, I'd think she's fucked in the head too.

I think we know different women.
  And for that, I am profoundly thankful.


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RE: Understanding Ballbusting - 8/17/2011 1:39:30 PM   
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Hardy you really need to back down a tad. Folks are trying to give you good advice. And as for your statement about being a hypocrite I'm wondering something. You like getting kicked in the nuts...cool,cool, thats just lovely. And you say you have no right to judge someone that might be into some other thing like fecalphilia. Would you say the same thing if it were pedophilia. How about necrophilia. The fact of the matter is every human makes judgements having to do with what they do and do not want in their personal life. That has never changed and it never will.

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RE: Understanding Ballbusting - 8/17/2011 1:42:14 PM   
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And frankly, if a woman confessed to me that she would like nothing more than to be punched in the cunt, I'd think she's fucked in the head too.


ROFL

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While I do my best to respect people who are into eating other people's poop, I have a hard, hard time trying to accept it.


Well, I like to eat other people's poop... But I don't see any reason why I should care if other people understand it or not. I know it's fucked up, just like I know getting your balls stomped on is fucked up. If other people want to look down on me for the things I like to do, that's their problem. You should adopt a similar philosophy, because you're never going to be accepted by everybody for what you like to do and have done to you.

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RE: Understanding Ballbusting - 8/17/2011 1:46:44 PM   
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Hardy you really need to back down a tad. Folks are trying to give you good advice. And as for your statement about being a hypocrite I'm wondering something. You like getting kicked in the nuts...cool,cool, thats just lovely. And you say you have no right to judge someone that might be into some other thing like fecalphilia. Would you say the same thing if it were pedophilia. How about necrophilia. The fact of the matter is every human makes judgements having to do with what they do and do not want in their personal life. That has never changed and it never will.


It's hard to argue with that. Although I will say and say as a heterosexual that I am glad that the world's views and acceptance of homosexuals are different today than what they were in the 1970's.

Also may I add that comparing ballbusting and pedophilia is not the same. They are different in the fact that pedophilia usually hurts another person and there is usually someone involved within it that does NOT want to be involved.



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RE: Understanding Ballbusting - 8/17/2011 1:50:31 PM   
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And frankly, if a woman confessed to me that she would like nothing more than to be punched in the cunt, I'd think she's fucked in the head too.


ROFL

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While I do my best to respect people who are into eating other people's poop, I have a hard, hard time trying to accept it.


Well, I like to eat other people's poop... But I don't see any reason why I should care if other people understand it or not. I know it's fucked up, just like I know getting your balls stomped on is fucked up. If other people want to look down on me for the things I like to do, that's their problem. You should adopt a similar philosophy, because you're never going to be accepted by everybody for what you like to do and have done to you.


Lol, whether or not you're being serious or humorous, I do appreciate the first line. It made me literally lol.

I guess I dream of a life of better state. Your philosophy is as good as any and very admirable. It's sad that I truly cannot hope for a more openminded and accepting society, but it's also a fact.

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RE: Understanding Ballbusting - 8/17/2011 1:55:15 PM   
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I really wish I could just stop and leave it with your last comment because I have more than a few friends who are homosexuals, but I can't. Because sadly I don't think so much that the world views have changed so much as just the politics have. But that is a whole different topic than the one you originally posted.

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RE: Understanding Ballbusting - 8/17/2011 1:56:43 PM   
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Look, you are talking about CBT which is very very common.  No big deal.  You just enjoy the CBT concentrating on your balls.  When you use the word ballbusting, in my opinion, you are entering an extreme form of CBT that not everyone is comfortable doing.  In my definition of the word ballbusting, damage can easily be done. 

You have opened my eyes in one area.  I figured after a guy's balls were bruised and sore, the last thing on his mind would be sex.  However, you say that ballbusting is a turn on.  Gotta admit, I found that strange. 

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RE: Understanding Ballbusting - 8/17/2011 2:01:28 PM   
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I really wish I could just stop and leave it with your last comment because I have more than a few friends who are homosexuals, but I can't. Because sadly I don't think so much that the world views have changed so much as just the politics have. But that is a whole different topic than the one you originally posted.


One of my dearest friends is a homosexual and I also have many other friends who are as well. I remember when I was younger they had to be more descreet and secretive about who they were. Today they are open about it and accepted by many.

Speaking with a friend who grew up in the 1970's as a homosexual, he has informed be that as a 20 year old man in 1978, he was treated much differently as a homosexual than he is today at 53.

Although I agree we're no where near where we should be (probably never will be either because of religious views on homosexuality) I also will say that we shouldn't ignore the progess and hard work of people like Harvey Milk.

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RE: Understanding Ballbusting - 8/17/2011 2:02:57 PM   
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Look, you are talking about CBT which is very very common.  No big deal.  You just enjoy the CBT concentrating on your balls.  When you use the word ballbusting, in my opinion, you are entering an extreme form of CBT that not everyone is comfortable doing.  In my definition of the word ballbusting, damage can easily be done. 

You have opened my eyes in one area.  I figured after a guy's balls were bruised and sore, the last thing on his mind would be sex.  However, you say that ballbusting is a turn on.  Gotta admit, I found that strange. 



Really? I find it strange that you find it strange. The majority of guys I've spoken with have the same feelings as do I. Then again, that is biased because the websites I visit usually gear ballbusting in more of a sexual way.

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RE: Understanding Ballbusting - 8/17/2011 4:37:33 PM   
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It is one of the strangest fetishes out there or at least made out to be that way by those outside of it.


Hello Hardy,
This is the only sentence I've read.  I stopped after reading it because of a number of inaccuracies.

"strangest fetishes" Not really. 
"made out to be that way"  not so much.
"ballbusting" another one of these?
"first post" + long writing + no ? = lecture
"fetish name" Just plain negative reaction from me.  I generally don't like 'em.

You may be into this, and that's cool.

Your post, however, was insulting.  After reading one sentence I came up with that?  Yep.  Here's how - you were obviously lecturing a group of people who wrote the book (sometimes literally) on wiitwd.  You made the assumption that we wanted / needed to hear it without checking out that assumption.  I searched and found four threads on this topic in the last three months.  Obviously not as uncommon or strange as you seem to think it is.  This tells me you are actually clueless about your own chosen topic or you are completely self-centered about it.  Either one is a perfectly fine place to be, but when you put your cluelessness/egoism out for the rest of the world to look at, we will call you on it.  Here on the message boards, people get called on their stuff all the time - it's not personal.  It's a discussion. 

That's the other thing.  What you did was not start a discussion, you gave a lecture.  Now that is not in and of itself an issue - mummyman recently started a post regarding safe mummification that was very positively received.  He, however, is a known entity.  We know him, he has proven himself to be knowledgeable and a good conversationalist.  You are just some dude that walked into a room and started lecturing a bunch of in the know people.  Imagine going up to Bill Gates at a cocktail party and telling him how to use Windows Media Maker.  That's more or less what you did.  Know your audience.

I harbor no ill will to you or have any feelings one way or the other here.  I'm just letting you know how I received your post and why I would choose not to read it.

Of course the ironic thing would be that you don't read mine!  Ha!  That would serve me right!

good luck,
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RE: Understanding Ballbusting - 8/17/2011 4:56:44 PM   
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It is one of the strangest fetishes out there or at least made out to be that way by those outside of it.


Hello Hardy,
This is the only sentence I've read.  I stopped after reading it because of a number of inaccuracies.

"strangest fetishes" Not really. 
"made out to be that way"  not so much.
"ballbusting" another one of these?
"first post" + long writing + no ? = lecture
"fetish name" Just plain negative reaction from me.  I generally don't like 'em.

You may be into this, and that's cool.

Your post, however, was insulting.  After reading one sentence I came up with that?  Yep.  Here's how - you were obviously lecturing a group of people who wrote the book (sometimes literally) on wiitwd.  You made the assumption that we wanted / needed to hear it without checking out that assumption.  I searched and found four threads on this topic in the last three months.  Obviously not as uncommon or strange as you seem to think it is.  This tells me you are actually clueless about your own chosen topic or you are completely self-centered about it.  Either one is a perfectly fine place to be, but when you put your cluelessness/egoism out for the rest of the world to look at, we will call you on it.  Here on the message boards, people get called on their stuff all the time - it's not personal.  It's a discussion. 

That's the other thing.  What you did was not start a discussion, you gave a lecture.  Now that is not in and of itself an issue - mummyman recently started a post regarding safe mummification that was very positively received.  He, however, is a known entity.  We know him, he has proven himself to be knowledgeable and a good conversationalist.  You are just some dude that walked into a room and started lecturing a bunch of in the know people.  Imagine going up to Bill Gates at a cocktail party and telling him how to use Windows Media Maker.  That's more or less what you did.  Know your audience.

I harbor no ill will to you or have any feelings one way or the other here.  I'm just letting you know how I received your post and why I would choose not to read it.

Of course the ironic thing would be that you don't read mine!  Ha!  That would serve me right!

good luck,
sunshine


No I read your post and appreciate your insight. I suppose my fault was expecting a bit more open mindedness than what I received. I am one to often watch a movie before I give my feelings on it, but I've found most people already know how they feel by just watching the previews.

I suppose I need to just grit my teeth from now on when I read the countless number of, "oh and I love having a huge dildo shoved up my rectum! You like getting kicked in the balls?? WTF!?!!@??"

It's years of frustration that lead me to post what I did. I did my best to post it in a non attacking way and to be educationally subjective.

I should have just written a rant, as it is what I'm being accused of anyway.

I'm very glad I posted this thread. It gives me more insight to many things. I will say that I find it very interesting how some who have their own fetishes(be whatever they may be) still find it perfectly acceptable to judge and degrade others. Not saying that as incriminating, just saying that as observation.

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RE: Understanding Ballbusting - 8/17/2011 7:06:22 PM   
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No, you should have engaged people instead of lecturing.  That's your biggest faux pas.  What you wrote was a journal entry.

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RE: Understanding Ballbusting - 8/17/2011 8:01:36 PM   
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Well lets give the guy a break at least.  He's being decent about it, and has taken a lot of trash talk in this thread pretty well.  He's willing to listen to everybody's opinions and is being a good guy about it; so let's ease up on him huh?

And OP, no i wasn't kidding about what I said earlier. It is one of the many things I am into.

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