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RE: Multiple Personality Disorder - 8/22/2011 10:10:17 PM   
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So again, I ask what that has to do with my religious beliefs? I actually find that very offensive, one of the more offensive things that anyone has said directly to me on CM, and that is saying a lot.
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Folks, kelly obviously hooked on the part of the OP about the story where the nephew said "I don't want him to hear that".

Also, orchid seemed unaware that the MPD>DID issue had already been addressed.

Some people don't have the hang of this place yet. It's not nice to scare the newbies. Some people don't know they might have to red 912 posts to get up to speed, and by the time they post there will be ten more posts by the time they get done typing.

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RE: Multiple Personality Disorder - 8/22/2011 10:28:39 PM   
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I don't think you need to take offense, though I understand why you would.  She was clearly talking out of her arse and had no idea what she was saying.  It might be best to ignore the befuddled creature and get back to the topic.

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RE: Multiple Personality Disorder - 8/22/2011 11:01:26 PM   
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"So again, I ask what that has to do with my religious beliefs? I actually find that very offensive, one of the more offensive things that anyone has said directly to me on CM, and that is saying a lot. "

That does it, I am not sticking up for the newbies anymore.

I was kinda wondering what would come next. How she got the idea that religion was involved at all. I mean some don't write so good, I guess some don't read so good. Even assuming she only read the OP, it is still a bit of a mystery.

I've done that at times, jumped in, but when I do I say so. Specifically, that I haven't yet read the whole thing but this is in my mind right now. I try not to do that too much.

Then orchid with "I don't know if this has been.....yet", it's pretty clear she did not read the whole thread.

I probably should've just STFU at the time.

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RE: Multiple Personality Disorder - 8/22/2011 11:55:38 PM   
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~Fast Reply~

You talk about what you witnessed with this poor boy while your brother was alive and the child was 9 years old. He is now 11 and you say he's been institionalized for quite some time. While I don't doubt the validity of what you saw, hasn't he (and your sis-in-law) been given a diagnosis? You speculated based on your time with him, do you doubt his Dr.'s diagnosis?

While I do believe DID exists, I also believe that likely at least 98% of the alleged "DIDs" people here met were either misdiagnosed or deluded themselves into believing such as an excuse for their behavior. DID is really quite rare, but I can see schizophrenics believing that is the actual cause of their problems.

We had a tenant at a rental property my family owned. He was schizophrenic (not my opinion, we often rented to disabled and that is how he came to be a tenant). He went off his meds and chased another (disabled) tenant with a knife. Walking up to the foyer, I would have sworn there were 2 people having a conversation. Totally different voices.

OP, while I understand your curiosity, I'm confused as to your role in this. If this child is still that violent after more t5han a year at his currfent placement, I encourage you to speak with his guardian about moving him to a more appropiate placement. Places for young children that provide quality care on the level he needs are far and few between. My best friend's sister was diagnosed with both schizoprenia and asberger's before she was 5. She lived at home until she was 16 and then was placed in a live in facility because she became an uncontrolled danger to the other children in the house. Perhaps you taking a very active role for this boy will help him handle the abandonment caused by your brother's death. My condolences on you loss by the way. Your involvement would be a great way to honor your brother's memory.

Fragilepieces:

You commented about someone else lack of knowledge about children. Well, really, you are lacking yourself. Children learn at a very young age (around 2) that yes, mommy and daddy win because they are in charge and yep, bigger. So wherever you learned young children can't have that kind of comprehension, get your money back. CrackerJacks, I think has a money back guarantee, so your can stiil return the empty box and get a refund for your early childhood knowledge degree.

Return your psych degree as well. Only and idiot would define DID as altered state of mind." In the most simplistic (idiotic) level, yes. As others said though, deep meditationis an altered state of mind as well. Hell, every emotion that is stronglty felt could be considered an "altered state of mind."

You opened the door for humor. It is at your expense because you are apparently so simple minded, you think a state of euphoria (subspace) and a psychiatric disorder are comparable.

I don't blame you for not finding it funny. I don't find your ignorance funny either. Arpig, however, has been ver funny.

in this. If this child is still that violent after more t5han a year at his currfent placement, I encourage you to speak with his guardian about moving him to a more appropiate placement. Places for young children that provide quality care on the level he needs are far and few between. My best friend's sister was diagnosed with both schizoprenia and asberger's before she was 5. She lived at home until she was 16 and then was placed in a live in facility because she became an uncontrolled danger to the other children in the house. Perhaps you taking a very active role for this boy will help him handle the abandonment caused by your brother's death. My condolences on you loss by the way. Your involvement would be a great way to honor your brother's memory.

Fragilepieces:

You commented about someone else lack of knowledge about children. Well, really, you are lacking yourself. Children learn at a very young age (around 2) that yes, mommy and daddy win because they are in charge and yep, bigger. So wherever you learned young children can't have that kind of comprehension, get your money back. CrackerJacks, I think has a money back guarantee, so your can stiil return the empty box and get a refund for your early childhood knowledge degree.

Return your psych degree as well. Only and idiot would define DID as altered state of mind." In the most simplistic (idiotic) level, yes. As others said though, deep meditationis an altered state of mind as well. Hell, every emotion that is stronglty felt could be considered an "altered state of mind."

You opened the door for humor. It is at your expense because you are apparently so simple minded, you think a state of euphoria (subspace) and a psychiatric disorder are comparable.

I don't blame you for not finding it funny. I don't find your ignorance funny either. Arpig, however, has been ver funny.














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RE: Multiple Personality Disorder - 8/23/2011 1:05:55 AM   
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You've got mail.

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RE: Multiple Personality Disorder - 8/23/2011 4:14:20 AM   
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Hausboy,

Wow, that was great, thanks for sharing!

KK

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RE: Multiple Personality Disorder - 8/23/2011 4:20:10 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SylvereApLeanan

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

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Doing ok with my Wellbutrin, but thanks
I liked Wellbutrin, it worked better than the other anti-depressants. Did you know it's the same thing as the quit smoking drug Zyban?



I did know that.  I like it too as long as it's the XL version.  It works very well for my Seasonal Affective Disorder without side effects.  OTOH, I had previously unreported side effects on the SR formula.  The packaging changed because of me. 


Wellbutrin worked very well for me, but just the SR, not the XL. I'm back north - thanks for the SAD tip.

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RE: Multiple Personality Disorder - 8/23/2011 6:22:57 AM   
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Steven....
I'm going to share something here....something very personal..... hope I don't regret it.

I do not remember if it was before...or after the abuse....but I had an imaginary friend--He was my "hero friend", he was a rugged man with a moustache...and wore a workshirt and a yellow hard hat, and he was my "protector."  I remember asking him his name--and he told me his name was "Hole."   My parents tolerated me talking about my imaginary friend but I remember him being very real to me.

As I got older, he frequented my dreams....then disappeared as imaginary friends do when we age.

Fast forward to more than 20 years later, after I had my gender-transition.  I was coming home from a shift at the fire station, and because my hands were full, I plopped my helmet on my head as I headed up the stairs.  I walked past a mirror in the alcove, and stopped frozen in my tracks.  There, in the mirror....it was him.  It was Hole.  The workshirt...the yellow helmet..the moustache...the EXACT face I had seen so many years before.

And that's when it hit me.  As a child, I asked him his name,  he wasn't saying his name was "Hole"....what he actually said was "I'm WHOLE."  I don't know how to ever really explain this, but it was like I was my own protector, telling myself that I was finally "whole" as a person, as a man, and the splintered self that I felt as child would one day be whole again.

I know that all sounds weird, but it's entirely true.





What an amazing story.

That, my friend, is *well* worth turning into a novel.  Blimey, I can already even picture it on the big screen . . . .

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RE: Multiple Personality Disorder - 8/23/2011 6:57:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Rule

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ORIGINAL: Rule
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There is a time to be serious and a time to be an idiot.    IMO---this thread is anything but funny.

You are obnoxious. Go away for the next couple of hours.

That got to her!


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RE: Multiple Personality Disorder - 8/23/2011 7:04:11 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

~Fast Reply~

You talk about what you witnessed with this poor boy while your brother was alive and the child was 9 years old. He is now 11 and you say he's been institionalized for quite some time. While I don't doubt the validity of what you saw, hasn't he (and your sis-in-law) been given a diagnosis? You speculated based on your time with him, do you doubt his Dr.'s diagnosis?

While I do believe DID exists, I also believe that likely at least 98% of the alleged "DIDs" people here met were either misdiagnosed or deluded themselves into believing such as an excuse for their behavior. DID is really quite rare, but I can see schizophrenics believing that is the actual cause of their problems.

We had a tenant at a rental property my family owned. He was schizophrenic (not my opinion, we often rented to disabled and that is how he came to be a tenant). He went off his meds and chased another (disabled) tenant with a knife. Walking up to the foyer, I would have sworn there were 2 people having a conversation. Totally different voices.

OP, while I understand your curiosity, I'm confused as to your role in this. If this child is still that violent after more t5han a year at his currfent placement, I encourage you to speak with his guardian about moving him to a more appropiate placement. Places for young children that provide quality care on the level he needs are far and few between. My best friend's sister was diagnosed with both schizoprenia and asberger's before she was 5. She lived at home until she was 16 and then was placed in a live in facility because she became an uncontrolled danger to the other children in the house. Perhaps you taking a very active role for this boy will help him handle the abandonment caused by your brother's death. My condolences on you loss by the way. Your involvement would be a great way to honor your brother's memory.

Fragilepieces:

You commented about someone else lack of knowledge about children. Well, really, you are lacking yourself. Children learn at a very young age (around 2) that yes, mommy and daddy win because they are in charge and yep, bigger. So wherever you learned young children can't have that kind of comprehension, get your money back. CrackerJacks, I think has a money back guarantee, so your can stiil return the empty box and get a refund for your early childhood knowledge degree.

Return your psych degree as well. Only and idiot would define DID as altered state of mind." In the most simplistic (idiotic) level, yes. As others said though, deep meditationis an altered state of mind as well. Hell, every emotion that is stronglty felt could be considered an "altered state of mind."

You opened the door for humor. It is at your expense because you are apparently so simple minded, you think a state of euphoria (subspace) and a psychiatric disorder are comparable.

I don't blame you for not finding it funny. I don't find your ignorance funny either. Arpig, however, has been ver funny.

in this. If this child is still that violent after more t5han a year at his currfent placement, I encourage you to speak with his guardian about moving him to a more appropiate placement. Places for young children that provide quality care on the level he needs are far and few between. My best friend's sister was diagnosed with both schizoprenia and asberger's before she was 5. She lived at home until she was 16 and then was placed in a live in facility because she became an uncontrolled danger to the other children in the house. Perhaps you taking a very active role for this boy will help him handle the abandonment caused by your brother's death. My condolences on you loss by the way. Your involvement would be a great way to honor your brother's memory.

Fragilepieces:

You commented about someone else lack of knowledge about children. Well, really, you are lacking yourself. Children learn at a very young age (around 2) that yes, mommy and daddy win because they are in charge and yep, bigger. So wherever you learned young children can't have that kind of comprehension, get your money back. CrackerJacks, I think has a money back guarantee, so your can stiil return the empty box and get a refund for your early childhood knowledge degree.

Return your psych degree as well. Only and idiot would define DID as altered state of mind." In the most simplistic (idiotic) level, yes. As others said though, deep meditationis an altered state of mind as well. Hell, every emotion that is stronglty felt could be considered an "altered state of mind."

You opened the door for humor. It is at your expense because you are apparently so simple minded, you think a state of euphoria (subspace) and a psychiatric disorder are comparable.

I don't blame you for not finding it funny. I don't find your ignorance funny either. Arpig, however, has been ver funny.














Lafayette lady it IS an alter state of mind.   Plain simple.   Childhood experience I learned from having three of them and now a grandchild and I must admit I did something right---one of the three children got her degree in one of NY States best private schools and now works there.   The last one is leaving in two weeks for another equally good schools in NY where only 10% of the applicants get in.   The last one did not care for college classes but does have a damn good job.    So whatever.  

And if you are so smart why did you post the same thing twice? 

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RE: Multiple Personality Disorder - 8/23/2011 7:29:52 AM   
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quote:

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Termyn8or " It's pretty easy to concieve that cases of extreme abuse in early childhood could cause a form of MPD, whatever the nome de jure' may be. This could almost make it seem hereditary. But I wonder at this point what the other causes might be. Perhaps environmental factors (chemical perhaps) which affect the hormones in a young body/mind ?"




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SylvereApLeanan " There's been some discussion of this and one of the more popular hypotheses is that it's a combination of a predisposition for a child to be emotionally sensitive plus trauma. However, whether or not trauma is necessarily involved is in question, as well as what constitutes "trauma." War, natural disasters or a parent's protracted battle with cancer could all qualify as trauma to a person already predisposed to more frequent/extreme episodes of dissociation. "


wow.

If i have it, i think it would have to do with when my mother had a still born. I have a mental block from the 6 till 8. That time was form the first pregnacy till well after my living sister was born.

near as i can figure, i blamed myself, my father had an explosive temper an i have heard stories from my aunt but i dont remember anything like that as being a constant way of life.


still, if i am that disorder my condition could have turned out much worse, and it gives me reflection.
odd as it may seem, thank gawd i had only shitty parents.

Justine.



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RE: Multiple Personality Disorder - 8/23/2011 7:46:52 AM   
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Because when posting from a phone sometimes errors happen.

Obviously, your children did not get their intelligence from you.

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RE: Multiple Personality Disorder - 8/23/2011 7:48:02 AM   
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Because when posting from a phone sometimes errors happen.

Obviously, your children did not get their intelligence from you.
classic catty remark.   LOL

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RE: Multiple Personality Disorder - 8/23/2011 7:53:11 AM   
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My wife was diagnosed with DiD. "was" because we're seperated and will be divorced soon. She was sexually abused by her mother and possibly lots of other people as well, not to mention the domestic violence.

She had at least 13 Alters that we were aware of. David was a guy, I unknowingly/drunkenly had anal sex with him once (I found out afterward), which I actually thought was odd, because my wife normally didn't feel like it (I'm thinking due to triggers from the sexual abuse) he was the one that took care of the situations that Kelsey 1 (nice one) and Kelsey 2 (bitch) couldn't handle, he adopted a deeper voice, with a speech pattern like mine. Slander was the one that tried to fuck everyone all the time, especially when she was drunk. There was a super pagan "flower child type" that was "one with nature" she always said. once she told me she'd like to be fucked by a big dog becuase of how primal it would feel. There was a little girl that she thought was her at 3 or 4 years old. There was a suicidal one, never found out the name.

It was really difficult to deal with sometimes, becuase I had to adopt the way I talked/dealt with them...

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RE: Multiple Personality Disorder - 8/23/2011 7:53:26 AM   
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catty yes, but clearly supported by the evidence before us.

seems you're still spoiling for a fight there dog vomit, well i'm in a good mood, so bring it on. but you better up your game.

now let's begin shall we dv?
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Lafayette lady it IS an alter state of mind.   Plain simple.
evidence? definition?



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RE: Multiple Personality Disorder - 8/23/2011 7:55:45 AM   
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becuase I had to adopt the way I talked/dealt with them...
did they all have different mannerisms or speech patterns/voices, or did you have to ask who you were dealing with?

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RE: Multiple Personality Disorder - 8/23/2011 7:59:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: fragilepieces

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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

Because when posting from a phone sometimes errors happen.

Obviously, your children did not get their intelligence from you.
classic catty remark.   LOL



Pot......meet kettle.


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RE: Multiple Personality Disorder - 8/23/2011 9:48:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

Wellbutrin worked very well for me, but just the SR, not the XL. I'm back north - thanks for the SAD tip.


The SR version actually worked better for me than the XL does.  Unfortunately, it has more side effects.  The XL doesn't work quite as well, but it's good enough, and has no side effects.  I'm willing to make that trade.  If you have SAD, make sure you take vitamins that have extra D in them.  I found a gummy calcium/D supplement at Target that tastes pretty good.  Between that and my regular multivitamin, I'm taking about 4 times the daily nutritional requirement of D, but it helps LOTS.

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RE: Multiple Personality Disorder - 8/23/2011 9:56:08 AM   
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Lafayette lady it IS an alter state of mind.   Plain simple.   Childhood experience I learned from having three of them and now a grandchild and I must admit I did something right


So let me get this straight...
 
You have no training in child development.  You have no degree in child psychology.  You have no degree of any kind in a mental health profession.  You have no experience counseling clients with DID/MPD.  You have no real-world experience with interacting with multiple systems. 
 
And yet you flatter yourself into thinking you know jack shit about multiple personalities?  Give me a break.  Now STFU and run along so the grown-ups can have a conversation.  There's a good girl.

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RE: Multiple Personality Disorder - 8/23/2011 10:27:25 AM   
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Lafayette, good question about my role in this.  My brother and I were not close, but we reconciled while he was dying of pancreatic cancer.  We did not talk much about the specific diagnosis of his son, just because there was a lot going on, including issues with another child that I am very concerned about.  She went through much the same thing as her brother, although for longer, since she was older.  I had some big issues with the way my brother and his wife were treating her, so we spent time talking about her, and not so much his son.  IN addition, my brother's insurance company was constantly looking for ways to deny coverage, so we spent a lot of time dealing with that.
My brother's wife is afraid of the boy (don't blame her), so at this point I don't see anything changing for him unless the insurance company does manage to drop them.  She, quite honestly, does not want to talk about it, and she is angry with me because of my meddling with the daughter.  Horrible, horrible situation, and not one that I can really do anything about, except for one thing.  When my mother dies, the son and his sister will be inheriting some money, and I would like to see that it goes to help him make his life more comfortable.  I don't know what to do other than that.  

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