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FirmhandKY -> RE: Rick Parry: Climate Change is a Cult -- holds prayer rally for rain right after... (8/26/2011 8:42:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: outhere69

... Judaism states that the righteous (of any faith) have a place in the world to come.

Better check that out with fargle.  According to him, Christians (at least) worship a false god.

I'm not sure what he thinks of Muslims, or Hindus.  Nothing good, I suspect.


Firm, Jews believe that the faith part is not as important as the works part.  When outhere used the word "righteous", she did not mean worshiping properly as much as living a proper life outside of worship.

In the Jewish heaven, there will be folks of all earthly faiths in their previous lives.

Steven,

I accept this from you, as I know you to be a reasonable individual.  From fragle, I get the impression that he disagrees with you (he can correct me if my impression is wrong).

In other words, my comments are more about fargle, than they are the Jewish faith and beliefs.

Firm




FirmhandKY -> RE: Rick Parry: Climate Change is a Cult -- holds prayer rally for rain right after... (8/26/2011 8:43:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

I don't see "Jesus" in the Torah... Must be some unauthorized fan-fiction... Fan-fic can be cool, but it's not canon...

Here's a hint. There's no such thing as "virgin birth", and if you buy into the whole "Jesus" thing, then you sorta-by-defininition have to accept that a real-live-virgin actually brought him to term and delivered him ( who I suppose was married at the time, right -- wonder how Joseph felt that Mary never gave him any pussy... )

I guess "The Virgin Mary" was fucking everyone BUT Joseph, ( Cuckolded by BBC! )

Sorry, but if you believe that, you'll believe anything...

Sorry, I do not classify myself as a Christian fundamentalist.

Therefore, all of your assumptions are false.

Firm




kalikshama -> RE: Rick Parry: Climate Change is a Cult -- holds prayer rally for rain right after... (8/26/2011 11:14:16 AM)

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I'd agree that you would be more likely have a chance at incarceration.  But not "just because" you might be black. More likely due to your attitude, and - perhaps - the culture in which you were raised. If someone acts like a punk, a gangster, a bad-ass and challenges an authority figure, simple human nature of those figures tends to give less benefit of the doubt. In other words, I get stopped for failure to register my car, I acknowledge the error, politely apologize and get a ticket that I then go and pay. Some people get stopped for failure to register their car, take their time about pulling over, insult the cop, act surly, resentful and furtive.  The cop has them step out of the car, call the drug dogs, and then have to verbally and then physically restrain the stopped individual.  That individual get arrested for assault, and goes to jail.  When they are before the judge, they call him a "honky muther fucker" if he is white, or a "unca tom" if he is black.  Judge decides that said individual would benefit from a little more butt fucking in the county jail and gives him a year. Same situation.  Different responses.  Attitude. Firm


I briefly did the books for a tow company in Western Massachusetts that got a lot of contracts due to DWB - Driving While Black. The cops from our predominantly white town would wait right over the town line. If I were pulled over under those circumstances, I might have an attitude, as did the black Harvard professor arrested for "breaking into" his own home.

However, I, and the Southern Poverty Law Center, disagree with your "attitude" premise.

http://www.splcenter.org/what-we-do/children-at-risk

Across the country, thousands of children are languishing in abusive prisons and jails. These youths are disproportionately African American and Latino. Most live in poverty.

Many of these children were needlessly pushed out of school and into the juvenile justice system. But schools are just one entry point to the juvenile justice system – a system that too frequently cuts short the life chances of the young people it’s supposed to serve. Many youths are criminalized because of their experiences with failing foster care and mental health systems. Children and teens of color are imprisoned at almost three times the rate of their white counterparts – suggesting that they are often unfairly targeted for arrest and confinement.




FirmhandKY -> RE: Rick Parry: Climate Change is a Cult -- holds prayer rally for rain right after... (8/26/2011 11:21:28 AM)

Chicken and egg.

I'm not claiming that there are no racists, and I'm not claiming that the facts aren't the facts.

I'm claiming that blaming only "white racism" and "Republicans" is both terribly incomplete and almost completely unhelpful in changing the facts.

Firm




Kirata -> RE: Rick Parry: Climate Change is a Cult -- holds prayer rally for rain right after... (8/26/2011 4:42:46 PM)


He who will not reason is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool; and he who dares not is a slave. ~Sir William Drummond

K.




outhere69 -> RE: Rick Parry: Climate Change is a Cult -- holds prayer rally for rain right after... (8/26/2011 9:26:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY
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ORIGINAL: outhere69
... Judaism states that the righteous (of any faith) have a place in the world to come.

Better check that out with fargle.  According to him, Christians (at least) worship a false god.

I'm not sure what he thinks of Muslims, or Hindus.  Nothing good, I suspect.

Firm

The seven Noahide laws:

  1. Do not murder.
  2. Do not steal.
  3. Do not worship false gods.
  4. Do not be sexually immoral.
  5. Do not eat a limb removed from a live animal.
  6. Do not curse God.
  7. Set up courts and bring offenders to justice.
According to Maimonides, "Anyone who accepts upon himself the fulfillment of these Seven Mitzvos [commandments] and is precise in their observance is considered one of the hasidei umos ha'olam ["Hasidim of the nations of the world"] and will merit a share in the World to Come."




Hillwilliam -> RE: Rick Parry: Climate Change is a Cult -- holds prayer rally for rain right after... (8/26/2011 9:29:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: outhere69

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY
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ORIGINAL: outhere69
... Judaism states that the righteous (of any faith) have a place in the world to come.

Better check that out with fargle.  According to him, Christians (at least) worship a false god.

I'm not sure what he thinks of Muslims, or Hindus.  Nothing good, I suspect.

Firm

The seven Noahide laws:

  1. Do not murder.
  2. Do not steal.
  3. Do not worship false gods.
  4. Do not be sexually immoral.
  5. Do not eat a limb removed from a live animal.
  6. Do not curse God.
  7. Set up courts and bring offenders to justice.
According to Maimonides, "Anyone who accepts upon himself the fulfillment of these Seven Mitzvos [commandments] and is precise in their observance is considered one of the hasidei umos ha'olam ["Hasidim of the nations of the world"] and will merit a share in the World to Come."


Fascinating. I had never heard of that. Thank you for the info.




Kirata -> RE: Rick Parry: Climate Change is a Cult -- holds prayer rally for rain right after... (8/26/2011 10:32:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

According to Maimonides, "Anyone who accepts upon himself the fulfillment of these Seven Mitzvos [commandments] and is precise in their observance is considered one of the hasidei umos ha'olam ["Hasidim of the nations of the world"] and will merit a share in the World to Come."


That's very nice of him. But unfortunately, it's only one side of the Mishneh Torah. Gentiles who decline the kind offer to become "one of the hasidei umos ha'olam," who perversely insist on worshipping another divinity instead, and on celebrating the shameless observances of their faith, are an offense to "G-d" and subject to being put to death.

A Jewish theocracy wouldn't be any better or kinder than a Christian or Islamic one.

K.




tazzygirl -> RE: Rick Parry: Climate Change is a Cult -- holds prayer rally for rain right after... (8/27/2011 2:19:03 AM)

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If it wasn't a racist statement, he would have said "wealthy or upper middle class" and not "white"

Are you going to say that "you live in kentucky..............bubba" is not also racist?


You will note I never said either statement was racist or not. My post was in response to what DYB said about Firm's post.

Meaning... I didnt find Firm's post racist. Its about the color of money.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Rick Parry: Climate Change is a Cult -- holds prayer rally for rain right after... (8/27/2011 6:46:14 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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If it wasn't a racist statement, he would have said "wealthy or upper middle class" and not "white"

Are you going to say that "you live in kentucky..............bubba" is not also racist?


You will note I never said either statement was racist or not. My post was in response to what DYB said about Firm's post.

Meaning... I didnt find Firm's post racist. Its about the color of money.


I was talking about DYB's 2 quotes which I found quite racist. Sorry bout the misunderstanding.




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