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Hisfreedom -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (8/28/2011 5:14:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather horny the hamster there knows its fucking wrong and is still doing it. he's doing something he says he disapproves of because he's enjoying getting a bit of nsa kink, so fuck him. Yeah, I get that Hannah..he thinks it's wrong because it is what it is (or why ever he does think its wrong)...and he is doing it to enjoy himself....I get that too...but there are infinite reasons as to why she could be doing what she is doing and none of us know them....Maybe what he is doing with her is beneficial to them both...Point is, none of us know that so maybe it isn't so fkin' awful.

HannahLynHeather -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (8/28/2011 5:24:24 PM)
quote: Maybe what he is doing with her is beneficial to them both if he thought it was beneficial then he wouldn't disapprove now would he? look, the guy claims to have a moral view, an ethical stance that says its wrong to cheat - that's what not approving of it means, but he's ignoring that ethical stance. so either he's a gutless wimp who will chuck his morals for a quick fuck, or he's bullshitting about disapproving to try make himself look good and get sympathy, which seems to have worked with you. either way, he's pretty much fucking worthless as a person.

LadyPact -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (8/28/2011 5:35:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: xCallMeSirx I'm single, she is married. She comes to my area for a class once a week and stops by to visit me. No, I don't feel good about seeing a married woman but I did not seek her out, she found me. In other words, sex was the more powerful influence than integrity. Got it. quote: The way she described her situation made me feel like it wasn't a terrible thing I was doing. Right, because a chick cheating on her husband means that she is completely trustworthy and you should believe everything that comes out of her mouth. quote: If we get caught it's a bigger problem for her, unless of course, I get shot. Personally, I rather would be shot than be involved in that crap and have to look in the mirror every day. quote: Feel free to judge me, I don't approve of it myself. Then what in the hell are you doing it for? Sex and kink are really more important to you? quote: But the whole D/s relationship is teaching me things about myself I never new, things that will help me in future relationships. When those "future relationships" are forming, and that great "have you ever cheated/helped someone cheat" question comes up, do you really want odds that none of those future relationship potentials will care? quote: This is just temporary, she is not leaving her husband for me. I am just a distraction, but it's a whole hell of a lot of fun while it lasts. I'm glad you're absolutely certain that the husband won't find out and leaves her instead. Either that, or she throws you under the bus to try to keep him. quote: I'm guessing the urge to help me will be minimal now... Actually, people are trying to help you. The difference is that it's not on your original question and it's help that you don't really want to hear. ETA - On a lighter note, that avatar suits you perfectly. That "a man or a mouse" concept isn't just about fear.

OsideGirl -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (8/28/2011 6:01:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: xCallMeSirx I'm single, she is married. She comes to my area for a class once a week and stops by to visit me. No, I don't feel good about seeing a married woman but I did not seek her out, she found me. The way she described her situation made me feel like it wasn't a terrible thing I was doing. If we get caught it's a bigger problem for her, unless of course, I get shot. Feel free to judge me, I don't approve of it myself. But the whole D/s relationship is teaching me things about myself I never new, things that will help me in future relationships. This is just temporary, she is not leaving her husband for me. I am just a distraction, but it's a whole hell of a lot of fun while it lasts. I'm guessing the urge to help me will be minimal now... You're having a relationship with someone who is willing to lie to the most important person in her life. FYI, you only heard HER side of the story regarding her marriage. Because she wouldn't lie would she? Oh, yeah...wait....she already is....

xCallMeSirx -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (8/28/2011 6:54:09 PM)
I want to thank everyone for their help. Not all of is was exactly what I was looking for but your heart was in the right place. I'm not going to try to explain the situation because ultimately having a relationship with a married woman is wrong. I have been a good boy my entire life and there are some things on my bucket list I want to do, the Slave/Master thing is just one of them. I don't have a lot of time and submissive women seeking men aren't exactly falling out of the sky here in my area. It is what it is. And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground. And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

JanahX -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (8/28/2011 7:05:33 PM)
give her genital warts and have her husband pick at them while you are away. That should keep her really busy and her husband can join in the fun too.

HannahLynHeather -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (8/28/2011 7:26:19 PM)
fuck you. stuff your idiot fairy tale. it's fucking rich isn't it, some guy who is banging a married broad against his own morals quoting the bible and lecturing us on integrity. i thought i'd fucking seen everything but this is a whole new level of ironic. you're an ethical fucking zero.

LadyPact -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (8/28/2011 7:27:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: xCallMeSirx I'll see your "don't judge" and raise you a "thou shalt not covet". Oddly enough, Jesus never said "just don't mention it". In fact, if I remember right, He had a few things to say about teaching others the errors of their ways. If you're going to quote scripture, you don't get to just choose the ones that seem to side in your defense.

MissToYouRedux -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (8/28/2011 7:53:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact quote: ORIGINAL: xCallMeSirx I'll see your "don't judge" and raise you a "thou shalt not covet". Oddly enough, Jesus never said "just don't mention it". In fact, if I remember right, He had a few things to say about teaching others the errors of their ways. If you're going to quote scripture, you don't get to just choose the ones that seem to side in your defense. Well actually, I think the "go, and sin no more" that he quotes might cover it. [;)]

MrRodgers -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (8/28/2011 8:06:50 PM)
I couldn't resist. Monogamy is so pitifully young in world history, that this post almost makes me cringe. Yes he...HE is being hypocritical saying it is against HIS morals by still playing and all here seem to share that, fine. But if she sins, it is up to her, not us. Trouble is, that it is society's acceptance of and thus the prejudicial presumptions created by the western Christian value system and a system that doesn't seem to work all that well in so many other areas, that one must still observe monogamy or be labeled a social outcast. How many go to church with those they know are 'cheating' on their wives/husbands, yet do not say a thing ? How many sit in the same pew with those they know...are sinners, yet go on as if their sinning is not your business ? Polygamy goes back 1000's of years and it seems to have done just fine without modern Christian doctrine, the balance of which often not observed by that same society, is of seriously questionable morals...or lack of, for all of their high-minded teachings. Do I live my one life according to some so-called scriptures in marriage, placing my life at the mercy of [its] contract, foregoing what human history demonstrates is nothing more than loving or engaging another ? NO !! Monogamy didn't 'save the world' and polygamy and 'cheating' on a mate will not ruin it. How about all of the self-proclaimed slaves here ? Are they sinners ? Are they lying to their friends and family ? At one time in history and for millennia before that, almost the entire world sanctioned marriage (to more than one) i.e., polygamy, divorce, prostitution and slavery.

HannahLynHeather -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (8/28/2011 8:17:28 PM)
monogamy has fuck all to do with it. it's cheating. you show an amazing depth of ignorance by equating cheating to polyamory, fuck you. i live in a poly arrangement, but if one of us starts sleeping around on the qt that's still cheating, it's just cheating on several people instead of one. and that's not even the major point of contention, this is: quote: Yes he...HE is being hypocritical saying it is against HIS morals by still playing it's not just hypocritical it's a fucking scum move, to do something you believe is wrong just because it's fun. the rest of your post just is irrelevant ignorant insulting blather.

LPslittleclip -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (8/28/2011 8:30:05 PM)
if the husband does not know or condone it just stop. i am married and my wife is very understanding and allowed me to belong to my Mistress. with truth a greater reward was found

xCallMeSirx -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (8/28/2011 8:32:18 PM)
Obviously your living situation is working for you, we can tell by your cheerful demeanor. [;)] Live and let live. I won't judge your transgressions, Don't judge mine. I hope releasing your anger here is helping you, you obviously need it. Or are you just a [sm=AttentionWhore.gif]? Hugs to HannahLynHeather. It's OK to be opinionated, but your getting a little carried away babe. quote: ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather monogamy has fuck all to do with it. it's cheating. you show an amazing depth of ignorance by equating cheating to polyamory, fuck you. i live in a poly arrangement, but if one of us starts sleeping around on the qt that's still cheating, it's just cheating on several people instead of one. and that's not even the major point of contention, this is: quote: Yes he...HE is being hypocritical saying it is against HIS morals by still playing it's not just hypocritical it's a fucking scum move, to do something you believe is wrong just because it's fun. the rest of your post just is irrelevant ignorant insulting blather.

HannahLynHeather -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (8/28/2011 8:32:54 PM)
quote: if the husband does not know or condone it just stop. i am married and my wife is very understanding and allowed me to belong to my Mistress. with truth a greater reward was found ergo poly, not fucking cheating.

thedavezone -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (8/28/2011 8:53:34 PM)
She has to call you for permission to use the bathroom, (deny it sometimes, for an hour or two). Tell her to arouse herself two or three times a day, but not to touch her clitoris.

JanahX -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (8/28/2011 9:05:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: xCallMeSirx I want to thank everyone for their help. Not all of is was exactly what I was looking for but your heart was in the right place. I'm not going to try to explain the situation because ultimately having a relationship with a married woman is wrong. I have been a good boy my entire life and there are some things on my bucket list I want to do, the Slave/Master thing is just one of them. I don't have a lot of time and submissive women seeking men aren't exactly falling out of the sky here in my area. It is what it is. And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground. And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more. what a douche! THUMBS DOWN !

HannahLynHeather -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (8/28/2011 9:15:33 PM)
keep your fucking hugs, and stuff your judgments or lack thereof, you are beneath contempt in my books.

littlewonder -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (8/28/2011 9:26:11 PM)
you don't have much time? What are you dying? Have some fatal disease that's going to take you away in a week or so? Are you 110 and ready to keel over?

LadyPact -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (8/28/2011 10:14:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrRodgers I couldn't resist. Monogamy is so pitifully young in world history, that this post almost makes me cringe. Yes he...HE is being hypocritical saying it is against HIS morals by still playing and all here seem to share that, fine. But if she sins, it is up to her, not us. Trouble is, that it is society's acceptance of and thus the prejudicial presumptions created by the western Christian value system and a system that doesn't seem to work all that well in so many other areas, that one must still observe monogamy or be labeled a social outcast. How many go to church with those they know are 'cheating' on their wives/husbands, yet do not say a thing ? How many sit in the same pew with those they know...are sinners, yet go on as if their sinning is not your business ? Polygamy goes back 1000's of years and it seems to have done just fine without modern Christian doctrine, the balance of which often not observed by that same society, is of seriously questionable morals...or lack of, for all of their high-minded teachings. Do I live my one life according to some so-called scriptures in marriage, placing my life at the mercy of [its] contract, foregoing what human history demonstrates is nothing more than loving or engaging another ? NO !! Monogamy didn't 'save the world' and polygamy and 'cheating' on a mate will not ruin it. How about all of the self-proclaimed slaves here ? Are they sinners ? Are they lying to their friends and family ? At one time in history and for millennia before that, almost the entire world sanctioned marriage (to more than one) i.e., polygamy, divorce, prostitution and slavery. Frankly, I don't see this as a monogamy vrs polygamy debate. The latter is the wrong term in the first place, as polygamy is specific to a husband having multiple wives. It's also kind of a twist to attempt to equate poly (of any version) with cheating. The difference between the two is that cheating is about deception and poly is about partners having knowledge about multiple relationships. There are a number of poly folks on these boards who have ethical relationships with multiple people. In such cases, all of the folks in the three or more are aware of the sexual/romantic/emotional relationships of the people they are involved with. I'm assuming since the OP is going to quote chapter and verse from the New Testament that he's basing his morals/ethics on those. I'm just pointing out that it's not a buffet. You don't take one from column A and pick one from column B to suit your situation and say the rest doesn't exist. Not to mention, Christians don't exactly have the corner of the market on things like honesty in your dealings with others. I'm sure you're not suggesting that atheists are all dishonest people because they aren't necessarily following those ten little rules and instead are just doing what they think makes them a decent human being. Hey, it's a BDSM site, right? How about just being a decent Dominant and not wanting to bring harm to outside parties with our activities? Maybe some are of the mind that as long as he's not beating the husband directly and not putting scars on him that every thing is ok. How about the potential harm to the sub herself if the husband finds out? As long as the scene is over, it's all good?

DecadentDesire -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (8/28/2011 10:57:42 PM)
Well, you managed to handle the criticism here pretty well. You are, at least, owning up to the fact that what you are doing is wrong and not attempting to argue and justify it as being right. In light of that, I figure I will be the one person who actually answers your question. I would do a search on the forums for "long distance". There is a few old threads that have a lot of good suggestions. I tend to date local, single girls so I don't have much experience with keeping someone remotely "aroused".

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