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HannahLynHeather -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (8/29/2011 7:05:21 PM)

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Hannah, am I to understand that your passion in this post is due to the many
times in your past in which you did things that were not only illegal and dangerous,
but also in stark contradiction to the morals you are trying to preach here?
And this is somehow a way to redeem yourself?
what i am bitching about is him doing things he admits are against his morals.

i did and do do illegal things - not against my morals, i don't recognise the ethical basis of the entity passing the laws and therefore i have no moral requirement to obey them.

i did and do do dangerous things - not against my morals, i have no clue what dangerous has to do with anything here.

i am preaching not breaking your moral code just for a fucking piece of ass. i don't see how that is in any way in contradiction to my past or present actions. if it is, please show me how. nor do i see how you might think this is some attempt to redeem myself, i don't feel any need for any fucking redemption.

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So the guy is of questionable character, big deal? He isn't the first, and
he certainly won't be the last. You gave your opinion already, several in fact.
But to continually debate the wisdom or intent in anyone elses post here makes
it seem like you have more invested in this fight than you ought to.
well i have this bad habit, i like to post and when people reply to me i like to reply back. don't like it? too fucking bad.

i also like to reply to people who post some shit i think is fucking stupid, much like you do, and in fact are doing in this post i am replying to. you don't like it when i do it? tough shit.

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Of course, if this is what you need to get through the day, then carry on.
poise, you ignorant slut, i do it for entertainment, no other reason. tv bores me, this place doesn't.




agirl -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (8/29/2011 7:06:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

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You are living in a poly of several unmarried women ? If that's the case and by now it sure appears that way, then your affair doesn't even come close to 'equating' to this post.


In what way does poly equate cheating? Poly is still faithful, just to more than one person.


Der, s'what he said.




HannahLynHeather -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (8/29/2011 7:24:15 PM)

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Ahh, temper, temper....easy now. Someone might think I am starting to get to you with such vicious responses like that.
someone might, but only someone who is fucking stupid, i have been posting like that for months now without anybody getting to me. so i guess we know what sort of somebody you are don't we?
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This is only going to make it ten times harder for you to posture yourself like you are pulling my strings or manipulating me into responding to you.
i never took that posture, i said arpig did that, and he confirms my suspicion. try reading what is actually said in a post in the future, you'll look a lot less moronic, and you can use all the help possible on that fucking front.

as to the rest? pffft i don't give a fuck what he wants me to comment on, he is the one who stated it and admitted it was wrong and then tried to justify what he was doing by saying it was her who approached him, that it was just temporary, and he was learning a lot, that there weren't a lot of sub women available, and that it was a fuck of a lot of fun. none of those is a valid reason for breaking one's own moral code in my books, if it is in your books then fuck you, you have no fucking morals worth shitting on.
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Fuck you and whatever code of behavior you are trying to impose on me
i'm not trying to impose fuck all on you, i am simply judging his actions by his own stated morals. if you don't like it, fuck you, not my problem.

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There is a huge difference between saying "I am right in what I am doing and here is the reasons why" and "I know I am wrong, but I am doing it anyways for these reasons".
absolutely fucking right. the first is morally and ethically acceptable, the latter is just fucked unless you are dealing with a question of life or death, or feeding your kids or something equally fucking important. and sorry, getting your fucking kink on just isn't up there in importance in my books.






HannahLynHeather -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (8/29/2011 7:29:45 PM)

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For those that attacked and ridiculded me, I thank you too. I know this is wrong and now I'm actually thinking about it, which will eventually result in my morality surfacing and forcing me to make a change.

I am meeting a single girl Thursday night, she is not into BDSM but that might be OK.

good for you hammy, stick to what you believe is right and you won't go too fucking wrong in life.




NuevaVida -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (8/29/2011 9:04:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

Brush your teeth with the wrong hand. You have to go really slow and careful with this one so you don't poke yourself in the roof of your mouth with your toothbrush. If you do poke yourself, hopefully it will hurt. If it hurts be appreciative of the pain while you have it and remember it fondly when it's gone. [8D]


Thanks. You realize I'm gonna try this tonight now, yes? And I'll think of you with love when it hurts. [:D]




LadyPact -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (8/29/2011 9:58:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: xCallMeSirx

Wow,

I learned a lot by making one post. To those that helped me with tips here or sent me a personal message, Thank You Very Much!

For those that attacked and ridiculded me, I thank you too. I know this is wrong and now I'm actually thinking about it, which will eventually result in my morality surfacing and forcing me to make a change.

I am meeting a single girl Thursday night, she is not into BDSM but that might be OK. I am already getting bored with how needy my sub is becoming. It feels like high maintenance to constantly tell her what to do and when. At first her submission was very exciting because I have never had this kind of power over another human before. The sweet taste of Dominance is turning bitter quickly.

Hopefully the thread won't die anytime soon, this has been educational and entertaining as hell. [:)]

For what it's worth, I'm proud of you.

Enjoy your date this week with the single gal.  You might still want to look into the munches close to you if you are still interested in the BDSM aspect and meeting other people.




zephyroftheNorth -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (8/30/2011 2:53:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: xCallMeSirx

Wow,

I learned a lot by making one post. To those that helped me with tips here or sent me a personal message, Thank You Very Much!

For those that attacked and ridiculded me, I thank you too. I know this is wrong and now I'm actually thinking about it, which will eventually result in my morality surfacing and forcing me to make a change.

I am meeting a single girl Thursday night, she is not into BDSM but that might be OK. I am already getting bored with how needy my sub is becoming. It feels like high maintenance to constantly tell her what to do and when. At first her submission was very exciting because I have never had this kind of power over another human before. The sweet taste of Dominance is turning bitter quickly.

Hopefully the thread won't die anytime soon, this has been educational and entertaining as hell. [:)]


Good for you! Good luck on Thursday and as LadyP says you can always check out munches and such if it turns out you want a subbie.

Zeph aka #7




poise -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (8/30/2011 4:40:34 AM)


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ORIGINAL: xCallMeSirx

I am meeting a single girl Thursday night, she is not into BDSM but that might be OK. I am already getting bored with how needy my sub is becoming. It feels like high maintenance to constantly tell her what to do and when. At first her submission was very exciting because I have never had this kind of power over another human before. The sweet taste of Dominance is turning bitter quickly.


Well done!! [sm=applause.gif]




sheisreeds -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (8/30/2011 4:49:26 AM)


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ORIGINAL: xCallMeSirx
I am already getting bored with how needy my sub is becoming. It feels like high maintenance to constantly tell her what to do and when. At first her submission was very exciting because I have never had this kind of power over another human before. The sweet taste of Dominance is turning bitter quickly.

Hopefully the thread won't die anytime soon, this has been educational and entertaining as hell. [:)]


'cause she's married dude! She is clearly not happy in her marriage, and you are just a toy to her. Real, honest kinky relationships don't tend to work that way. She's got the power in this relationship, not you (also to be read as you're not really the dominant).






xCallMeSirx -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (9/3/2011 8:01:35 PM)

Is anyone that allows the use of a safeword really Dominant? With a safeword the Sub always has the option of stopping the action at any time, that is pretty powerful.

I did not meet the girl Thursday night, we were both having a bad week and she said her brother is coming to town this weekend. So, who knows if and when I will meet her.

I gave my sub yellow and red as slow down, stop safewords. She used yellow the other night when I was using a new paddle to spank her. It is not my goal to hurt her or make her feel bad about herself. So I let her decide what she can handle. Otherwise if I stay away from her hard limits she will do anything I ask of her.

I will never be what most consider a real Dom, to her I am and that's all that matters. We have a fairly normal dynamic until we are playing, then She knows to do what I say and answer with Yes Sir, No Sir, Thank You Sir, Please Sir. She follows instructions I give her in advance, in person and when we are seperated.

One of my requests was on odd # days spend at least 5 minutes thinking about what I will do to her during her next visit and write me an email with some or all of the details. Her emails are very erotic, I enjoy reading them and it's pretty hot to see her fantasies about me in writing. I have her do other things at random and send me a picture to show she has complied.




JanahX -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (9/3/2011 8:22:01 PM)

Original: xCallMeSirx
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Is anyone that allows the use of a safeword really Dominant?


Absoulutely not, safewords are for fools, fakes, psudo-doms, weaklings, and sissies. Only non and false doms allow safewords. Your thinking on this, is spot ON. GREAT JOB !!

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I will never be what most consider a real Dom


Never?!?!? A REAL DOM?!?! thats terrible, you obviously need to go back to Dom school. I cant beleive that you're not a REAL DOM ... I call bullshit! Only REAL Dom's know that safewords shouldnt be allowed. I think youi must be kidding me.

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Her emails are very erotic, I enjoy reading them and it's pretty hot to see her fantasies about me in writing. I have her do other things at random and send me a picture to show she has complied.


I bet reading how hot you are really gets your cork pumped. You are truely the Dom of all Doms... dont let anyone lie to you and tell you you're not.




LadyPact -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (9/3/2011 8:45:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: xCallMeSirx

Is anyone that allows the use of a safeword really Dominant? With a safeword the Sub always has the option of stopping the action at any time, that is pretty powerful.

Let's put aside for the moment that you are confusing the word "top" with the word "Dominant".

A safe word isn't about a power struggle.  I use a safe word whenever I play.  Even clip has one, but he doesn't use it in the way that you're attempting to make it sound. 

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I did not meet the girl Thursday night, we were both having a bad week and she said her brother is coming to town this weekend. So, who knows if and when I will meet her.

That's a shame. 

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I gave my sub yellow and red as slow down, stop safewords. She used yellow the other night when I was using a new paddle to spank her. It is not my goal to hurt her or make her feel bad about herself. So I let her decide what she can handle. Otherwise if I stay away from her hard limits she will do anything I ask of her.

And here I had thought you had seen the light.  Oh well.  As long as your conscious doesn't bother you, and it's worth your integrity, have a blast.  No.  She shouldn't feel bad for the lies she's telling, the sneaking around that she's doing, or any of that other stuff.  Heavens, no!

Just remember one little thing.  Someday, should you decide to marry, there's going to be some guy out there who cares just as little about if the chick he's banging is your wife as you care about their vows now.

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I will never be what most consider a real Dom, to her I am and that's all that matters. We have a fairly normal dynamic until we are playing, then She knows to do what I say and answer with Yes Sir, No Sir, Thank You Sir, Please Sir. She follows instructions I give her in advance, in person and when we are seperated.

I'll agree with you.  Most won't.  It's about the same batting average as any other guy out there who slaps the *dom* label on himself to get a piece of tail and doesn't give a damn as long as he's getting pussy.  Bravo!

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One of my requests was on odd # days spend at least 5 minutes thinking about what I will do to her during her next visit and write me an email with some or all of the details. Her emails are very erotic, I enjoy reading them and it's pretty hot to see her fantasies about me in writing. I have her do other things at random and send me a picture to show she has complied.

I'm glad you're getting your rocks off.  That's all that matters, right?




Endivius -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (9/3/2011 9:37:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: xCallMeSirx

Is anyone that allows the use of a safeword really Dominant? With a safeword the Sub always has the option of stopping the action at any time, that is pretty powerful.


Looks like someone skipped the first day of class.


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I did not meet the girl Thursday night, we were both having a bad week and she said her brother is coming to town this weekend. So, who knows if and when I will meet her.


I hear she's not the only single female on the planet. But maybe all the single ladies moved away from you. Time to air up the tires on the bicycle and tell grandma you're going on a road trip!

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I gave my sub yellow and red as slow down, stop safewords. She used yellow the other night when I was using a new paddle to spank her. It is not my goal to hurt her or make her feel bad about herself. So I let her decide what she can handle. Otherwise if I stay away from her hard limits she will do anything I ask of her.


Don't sell yourself short!

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I will never be what most consider a real Dom, to her I am and that's all that matters. We have a fairly normal dynamic until we are playing, then She knows to do what I say and answer with Yes Sir, No Sir, Thank You Sir, Please Sir. She follows instructions I give her in advance, in person and when we are seperated.



Oh, I don't think you'll have to worry about impressing anyone. That ship sailed a long time ago.

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One of my requests was on odd # days spend at least 5 minutes thinking about what I will do to her during her next visit and write me an email with some or all of the details. Her emails are very erotic, I enjoy reading them and it's pretty hot to see her fantasies about me in writing. I have her do other things at random and send me a picture to show she has complied.


The best way to really Dominate a sub is to have them tell you what you should do to them, that way you don't have to think of anything on your own.




HannahLynHeather -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (9/4/2011 1:47:04 AM)

your sub? what sub, you just said you didn't meet her. oh you mean you mean his wife? 

so you're still with that lying cheating cunt, well in that case, fuck you you amoral worthless little dick-fixated fuck.

i hope she gives you the hamster herpes. you fucking disgust me.




xCallMeSirx -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (9/4/2011 9:25:57 AM)

I find it interesting that so many people have labels and opinions based entirely on a scenario they have created in their own mind. Not knowing any of the facts or details as to how this came about or why it continues. I will not waste my time trying to get people I don't know to understand the situation.

If trashing people on the internet makes you feel like a better person, knock yourself out.

I find this all quite amusing. The Hamster Herpes comment made me glad I wasn't drinking a soda, that is funny shit right there.

One thing is absolutely dead on correct, What I am doing is for my personal enjoyment. It just happens to be bringing joy to a Woman who has not had any in her life for a very long time. If that makes me a terrible person, well fuck it, I'll live with it.

On with the show, light the torches, form a possie and let that mob mentality run wild.





DarkSteven -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (9/4/2011 10:04:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: xCallMeSirx

Is anyone that allows the use of a safeword really Dominant? With a safeword the Sub always has the option of stopping the action at any time, that is pretty powerful. 


You don't get it.  If she WANTS to stop the action, she's either got a very valid reason, or the play dynamic isn't working. 
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I did not meet the girl Thursday night, we were both having a bad week and she said her brother is coming to town this weekend. So, who knows if and when I will meet her.

I gave my sub yellow and red as slow down, stop safewords. She used yellow the other night when I was using a new paddle to spank her. It is not my goal to hurt her or make her feel bad about herself. So I let her decide what she can handle. Otherwise if I stay away from her hard limits she will do anything I ask of her.

I will never be what most consider a real Dom, to her I am and that's all that matters. We have a fairly normal dynamic until we are playing, then She knows to do what I say and answer with Yes Sir, No Sir, Thank You Sir, Please Sir. She follows instructions I give her in advance, in person and when we are seperated. 


You are not a real Dom.  You are a bedroom Dom, or as LadyPact calls it, a Top.  There is nothing at all wrong with that.
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One of my requests was on odd # days spend at least 5 minutes thinking about what I will do to her during her next visit and write me an email with some or all of the details. Her emails are very erotic, I enjoy reading them and it's pretty hot to see her fantasies about me in writing. I have her do other things at random and send me a picture to show she has complied.


Cool.




Mr4sg -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (9/4/2011 11:16:03 AM)

Im not here to pass judgement on your choices in life. Im not God.

@xCallMeSirx:
consider this. You know she cheats on her husband. She is lying about things to do so. Those are facts.
BDSM requires trust.
Why? If she goes to the police and complains about your 'play' together, you will end up in jail on charges of abuse and maybe rape. Thats how the justice system works. No exceptions because "its consensual" in the law books. Since you already know she can not be trusted, why put your own neck in the noose ..

Hell, if her *husband* goes to the police and puts in charges, you get jailtime, no matter what the woman says or does. Im pretty sure he got a motive. And no secret can be kept forever.




DarkSteven -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (9/4/2011 11:39:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr4sg

Im not here to pass judgement on your choices in life. Im not God.

@xCallMeSirx:
consider this. You know she cheats on her husband. She is lying about things to do so. Those are facts.
BDSM requires trust.
Why? If she goes to the police and complains about your 'play' together, you will end up in jail on charges of abuse and maybe rape. Thats how the justice system works. No exceptions because "its consensual" in the law books. Since you already know she can not be trusted, why put your own neck in the noose ..

Hell, if her *husband* goes to the police and puts in charges, you get jailtime, no matter what the woman says or does. Im pretty sure he got a motive. And no secret can be kept forever.


Nope.

If she goes to the cops and complains, he's got all sorts of evidence to back up a claim of consensuality.  God knows how many emails and phone logs.  She's liable for filing a false report, and her marriage is toast.  Not likely.

If her husband puts in charges, things look very suspicious.  Not like he's a disinterested party.

I'm not condoning what he did but it's not as dire as you think.  And since he's not seeing her any more, isn't all this moot anyway?




OsideGirl -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (9/4/2011 11:57:24 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

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ORIGINAL: xCallMeSirx

Is anyone that allows the use of a safeword really Dominant? With a safeword the Sub always has the option of stopping the action at any time, that is pretty powerful. 


You don't get it.  If she WANTS to stop the action, she's either got a very valid reason, or the play dynamic isn't working. 


This is dead on. If I get a Charley Horse, I'm going to know before he does......




LadyPact -> RE: Playing with Sub when your away (9/4/2011 12:10:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: xCallMeSirx
I find it interesting that so many people have labels and opinions based entirely on a scenario they have created in their own mind. Not knowing any of the facts or details as to how this came about or why it continues. I will not waste my time trying to get people I don't know to understand the situation.

I didn't create the scenario.  She's married to somebody else who doesn't know that she's seeing you.  That's the fact part.  The other details that you are basing your decision on for being involved with her, unless you've spent time in their home to observe with your own eyes, you don't even know if that's the reality.  You're basing your opinion on what you've been told by a woman who is already lying to her own husband about being involved with you.  In other words, she deceives the person that she lives with, but you believe that she tells you the complete truth.  Nobody with their head screwed on straight is going to swallow that one.

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If trashing people on the internet makes you feel like a better person, knock yourself out.

I'm not trashing you.  I am telling you like it is. If you came here and said that you were doing something else to harm a third party, I'd tell you that was wrong, too.

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I find this all quite amusing. The Hamster Herpes comment made me glad I wasn't drinking a soda, that is funny shit right there.

Yeah, that was pretty good.  On a serious note though, I do hope you are practicing safer sex.  I'm sure she's told you that you're the only one, she's never done this type of thing before, yadda, yadda, but considering the track record about honesty, you might want to think about that.

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One thing is absolutely dead on correct, What I am doing is for my personal enjoyment. It just happens to be bringing joy to a Woman who has not had any in her life for a very long time. If that makes me a terrible person, well fuck it, I'll live with it.

Like I've said, unless you've been in their house, you honestly don't know what their lives are like the other six days of the week.

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On with the show, light the torches, form a possie and let that mob mentality run wild.

What flipping mob?  Oh, you mean the general opinion that doing somebody's wife behind her husband's back isn't all that ethical? 

Let's sort something out right here.  It doesn't matter one wit to Me if I'm the only one pointing out your shortcomings or if I'm not the only one.  I seriously wouldn't care if I was the only person on this planet who thought less of you for your actions.  I'd still tell you that I don't think much of you as a human being.




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