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RE: Obama's Legacy: - 9/1/2011 8:53:05 AM

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

Heh... a fantasy / reality conflict would be you and patrick really believing that Obama is intelligent, or popular, or that he has a real shot at being reelected at this point.

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Always knew you had trouble discerning fantasy from reality, Sanity. Now, you have proven it.

Again, your fantasy world, Sanity. Show me where I have said he would definitely be re-elected.

I disputed the fact that Obama is the worse US president. There are five listed as worse.... one I refused to mention among that list because I know it would drive you ... to further insanity.

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RE: Obama's Legacy: - 9/1/2011 9:07:25 AM

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Tough question? I'd say Romney or Perry, but my gut says they will go with Romney as he is next in line. Hard to handicap.

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RE: Obama's Legacy: - 9/1/2011 11:09:02 AM

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

A 2010 Siena poll of 238 Presidential scholars found that.................. the current president, Barack Obama was ranked 15th out of 43, with high ratings for imagination, communication ability and intelligence and a low rating for background (family, education and experience).[10][11]

From the Siena report...

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The current president, Barack Obama, while highly rated on imagination (6th), communication ability (7th) and intelligence (8th) scores poorly on background (family, education and experience) and enters the survey in the 15th position.

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Rounding out the bottom five are four presidents that have held that dubious distinction each time the survey has been conducted: Andrew Johnson, James Buchanan, Warren G. Harding, and Franklin Pierce. Andrew Johnson leads the ‘worst ever’ in both abilities and accomplishments finishing below both Buchanan and Harding, but Harding tops the worst in personal attributes including integrity where he finishes just slightly ahead of Richard M. Nixon.

http://www.siena.edu/uploadedfiles/home/parents_and_community/community_page/sri/independent_research/Presidents%20Release_2010_final.pdf

I wont add the rest... this is about Obama, not about Bush.

Tazzy, hold onto that "Siena" info and repost it in here on Nov 5th, 2012.

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RE: Obama's Legacy: - 9/1/2011 11:11:47 AM

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

A 2010 Siena poll of 238 Presidential scholars found that.................. the current president, Barack Obama was ranked 15th out of 43, with high ratings for imagination, communication ability and intelligence and a low rating for background (family, education and experience).[10][11]

From the Siena report...

quote:

The current president, Barack Obama, while highly rated on imagination (6th), communication ability (7th) and intelligence (8th) scores poorly on background (family, education and experience) and enters the survey in the 15th position.

quote:

Rounding out the bottom five are four presidents that have held that dubious distinction each time the survey has been conducted: Andrew Johnson, James Buchanan, Warren G. Harding, and Franklin Pierce. Andrew Johnson leads the ‘worst ever’ in both abilities and accomplishments finishing below both Buchanan and Harding, but Harding tops the worst in personal attributes including integrity where he finishes just slightly ahead of Richard M. Nixon.

http://www.siena.edu/uploadedfiles/home/parents_and_community/community_page/sri/independent_research/Presidents%20Release_2010_final.pdf

I wont add the rest... this is about Obama, not about Bush.

Tazzy, hold onto that "Siena" info and repost it in here on Nov 5th, 2012.

Rating a President less than 10-15 years after his presidency ends is ridiculous to start with.

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RE: Obama's Legacy: - 9/1/2011 11:25:16 AM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F4yT0KAMyo

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RE: Obama's Legacy: - 9/1/2011 1:23:43 PM

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Tazzy, hold onto that "Siena" info and repost it in here on Nov 5th, 2012.

You got it

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RE: Obama's Legacy: - 9/1/2011 1:58:25 PM

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The Patriot Act - after liberals tried to castrate Bush over it
Choosing which laws to obey - re the War Powers Act
Extending the power of government, re ACA and the unlimited power grab that door opens
Creating a cadre of people who will defend every act regardless of whether it is morally or legally defensible.

If I took the re's off it. I could be talking about Bush or Obama.

One thing I'm certain of, it will be politics that eventually takes your freedom away, and partisanship that allows it.

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RE: Obama's Legacy: - 9/1/2011 2:07:31 PM

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Choosing which laws to obey - re the War Powers Act

Why does every fuckin teabagger whine this clearly incorrect shit all over?

And choosing which laws to obey is not unique nor new to the office with the advent of Obama

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RE: Obama's Legacy: - 9/1/2011 2:15:06 PM

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Well, if you didnt vote for him last time there independant, and you dont vote for him this time there wont be any loss.

Now you guys may look, but the 3 or 4 of you out there aint gonna vote IN nobody, and there aint gonna be any republicans voted in, and they aint gonna call it off altogether, so ...

I mean you are in a WTF situation, it is gonna be Obama.

Whistling past the graveyard.
Yeah, you, RML and crazy Mike can go off to the polls and vote to re-elect the *worst* president this country has ever had.
The Dems had better find a candidate pronto or they're screwed!

Are you forgetting the last President?

I don't think that Howie Carr would like to know that you are now free lancing your posts. Please go back to your typical cut and paste job, Mr independent.

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RE: Obama's Legacy: - 9/1/2011 2:20:14 PM

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Obama is a lock against this current set of Rep doucheholes. Romney might be the only one possible to give him a run.

Wilbur has never ever been right, so Obama has to be a lock for four more years.

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RE: Obama's Legacy: - 9/1/2011 2:53:58 PM

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

Obama is a lock against this current set of Rep doucheholes. Romney might be the only one possible to give him a run.

Wilbur has never ever been right, so Obama has to be a lock for four more years.

Your previous attempt at predicting elections didn't turn out too well. If that's what we're to rely on, then I think you just gave Wilbur reason to smile.

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RE: Obama's Legacy: - 9/1/2011 2:56:48 PM

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Choosing which laws to obey - re the War Powers Act

Why does every fuckin teabagger whine this clearly incorrect shit all over?

And choosing which laws to obey is not unique nor new to the office with the advent of Obama

Because those who see it as clearly incorrect are nothing more than flip-flop images of those who defended the same bs from Bush. Hang on, someone will show up soon and tell us why it's also unconstitutional.

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RE: Obama's Legacy: - 9/1/2011 3:22:42 PM

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ORIGINAL: StrangerThan

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

Obama is a lock against this current set of Rep doucheholes. Romney might be the only one possible to give him a run.

Wilbur has never ever been right, so Obama has to be a lock for four more years.

Your previous attempt at predicting elections didn't turn out too well. If that's what we're to rely on, then I think you just gave Wilbur reason to smile.

dummyguy just likes to make up shit. I had the last two elections nailed and have no clue what his predictions were since he's been ignored since he admitted he was a liar and a racist.

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RE: Obama's Legacy: - 9/1/2011 3:36:39 PM

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Shit is Howie still on the Air?

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RE: Obama's Legacy: - 9/1/2011 4:06:42 PM

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ORIGINAL: StrangerThan

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Choosing which laws to obey - re the War Powers Act

Why does every fuckin teabagger whine this clearly incorrect shit all over?

And choosing which laws to obey is not unique nor new to the office with the advent of Obama

Because those who see it as clearly incorrect are nothing more than flip-flop images of those who defended the same bs from Bush. Hang on, someone will show up soon and tell us why it's also unconstitutional.

Well dont you think that dipshits should educate themeselves and see what the war powers act says instead of flouncing around like perimenopausal drag queens? And those (whoever they are) that say it is unconstitutional are only slightly better than that.

It isnt unconstitutional or there would be no war powers act. It is being followed or there would be an impeachment.

It was US Grant (AND Lincoln) who said pretty fundamentally that:

The best way to change a bad law is to follow it exactly.

It is being followed exactly. It is bad law in my opinion, but that is another thread.

< Message edited by mnottertail -- 9/1/2011 4:07:54 PM >

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RE: Obama's Legacy: - 9/1/2011 4:08:35 PM

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ORIGINAL: StrangerThan

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

Obama is a lock against this current set of Rep doucheholes. Romney might be the only one possible to give him a run.

Wilbur has never ever been right, so Obama has to be a lock for four more years.

Your previous attempt at predicting elections didn't turn out too well. If that's what we're to rely on, then I think you just gave Wilbur reason to smile.

Just a few interesting predictions from the 2008 election...

"FR:

As Thadius and I have been saying for a while ... absent some really juicy scandal, McCain is going to win this one handily. "

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=2123277

"Katy, it is.
When McCain and Palin win the election things will go back to normal again.
I don't have much hope for The Constitution Party but I'll vote for them anyway to register my vote of "No Confidence" in Dems or Repubs. "

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=2119786

"Once again Howard Dean's talking out his ass.
It's obvious that McCain will win.
People in the U.S. will simply not vote for a Leftist.
Plus, Nader will drain 2-5 million votes from him as will Bob Barr and the Libertarians.
Then there's 20-30% of Hillary's voters who want to see Hillary run in 2012!
How many millions is that?
Of course the mainstream media is trying to say that this will be a "close election."
I don't think so. "

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=2131997

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RE: Obama's Legacy: - 9/1/2011 4:10:40 PM

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: StrangerThan

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

Obama is a lock against this current set of Rep doucheholes. Romney might be the only one possible to give him a run.

Wilbur has never ever been right, so Obama has to be a lock for four more years.

Your previous attempt at predicting elections didn't turn out too well. If that's what we're to rely on, then I think you just gave Wilbur reason to smile.

dummyguy just likes to make up shit. I had the last two elections nailed and have no clue what his predictions were since he's been ignored since he admitted he was a liar and a racist.

I looked for your predictions for the 2008 election, willbe. What name were you using then?

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RE: Obama's Legacy: - 9/1/2011 4:15:51 PM

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Hmm, I wonder how many "Obama rallies" we'll be seeing next year on college campuses? ; )

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RE: Obama's Legacy: - 9/1/2011 4:22:31 PM

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: StrangerThan

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

Obama is a lock against this current set of Rep doucheholes. Romney might be the only one possible to give him a run.

Wilbur has never ever been right, so Obama has to be a lock for four more years.

Your previous attempt at predicting elections didn't turn out too well. If that's what we're to rely on, then I think you just gave Wilbur reason to smile.

dummyguy just likes to make up shit. I had the last two elections nailed and have no clue what his predictions were since he's been ignored since he admitted he was a liar and a racist.

I looked for your predictions for the 2008 election, willbe. What name were you using then?

Either this or cruelnunsual, but Im not sure I was even posting here then. In 2010 I think I was off by 1 Senate seat and the House wound up pretty much in the middle of my range.

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RE: Obama's Legacy: - 9/1/2011 4:22:38 PM

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What the fuck does that have to do with anything? Werent there McCain rallys last time, on campuses?

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