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is it possible to have a rational discussion in P and R?


yes
  38% (21)
no
  40% (22)
what's the point?It means fuck all
  21% (12)


Total Votes : 55
(last vote on : 9/3/2011 6:09:59 AM)
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hardcybermaster -> is it possible to have a rational discussion in P and R? (8/29/2011 5:02:47 PM)

P and R seems to have gone a little pear shaped recently(mainly the P part). Without wishing to name names..you know who you are... is there any chance of having a rational conversation here? Obviously people have their own ideas and beliefs but no one seems to have any desire at all to listen to anyone else, it's just a massive slanging match. Most of you come across as pathetic points scorers. Is everyone so partisan that the others point of view is not worth even thinking about?




tj444 -> RE: is it possible to have a rational discussion in P and R? (8/29/2011 5:11:06 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: hardcybermaster
is there any chance of having a rational conversation here?

No, not without rational people

... just wait,.. we arent even near the election yet... [sm=biggrin.gif]





Lucylastic -> RE: is it possible to have a rational discussion in P and R? (8/29/2011 5:14:33 PM)

so coming in here and calling "most" of us pathetic point scorers is your way of spreading peace and tranquility??
well done




hardcybermaster -> RE: is it possible to have a rational discussion in P and R? (8/29/2011 5:18:00 PM)

never said that peace and tranquility was my aim, and you were not a target




Aneirin -> RE: is it possible to have a rational discussion in P and R? (8/29/2011 5:18:13 PM)

quote:

Obviously people have their own ideas and beliefs but no one seems to have any desire at all to listen to anyone else, it's just a massive slanging match. Most of you come across as pathetic points scorers. Is everyone so partisan that the others point of view is not worth even thinking about?


Hey, politics, those who discuss politics, what are they if not politicians, for everyone is a politician and would be more so if they had the wit to go for it and become a politician with power to trade.

But what you indicated and I quoted here is the perfect politician, don't listen to others for everyone else is wrong except oneself.

But where have all the foreigners gone, you know all those Brits and other non American representatives that used to participate here, they have gone, perhaps elsewhere, perhaps here was too much and to think this an international website that yaps about American political bollocks only, kind of leaves everyone else excluded, so why bother

But one thing is certain about you over the pond, the shit that is discussed on this forum indicates to us you are more fucked than us in this global community.




hardcybermaster -> RE: is it possible to have a rational discussion in P and R? (8/29/2011 5:22:15 PM)

helpful, thanks




willbeurdaddy -> RE: is it possible to have a rational discussion in P and R? (8/29/2011 5:32:06 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Aneirin

But one thing is certain about you over the pond, the shit that is discussed on this forum indicates to us you are more fucked than us in this global community.


not a chance in hell.




FirmhandKY -> RE: is it possible to have a rational discussion in P and R? (8/29/2011 5:40:41 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: hardcybermaster
.. is there any chance of having a rational conversation here?

Yes.

It comes and it goes.  Lots of people will start to post as the Presidential election comes closer.  Many of them will be partisans, but some will be honestly interested in responding to different thoughts.

Firm




hardcybermaster -> RE: is it possible to have a rational discussion in P and R? (8/29/2011 5:40:48 PM)

sorry willb but you are one of the not named people...not a chance in hell? you are part of the problem, not the solution




Arpig -> RE: is it possible to have a rational discussion in P and R? (8/29/2011 6:14:03 PM)

It can indeed happen, but it doesn't that often any more, most of us down here have been here a while and have already staked out our positions. For example, Firm and I have had many interesting, sane and rational discussions in the past, but we will never see eye to eye, so there's no real point reliving them. Unless he's substantially changed his views, of course...you a Syph yet Firm?

As well, when they happen, you have to spot the two or three people actually having a discussion and follow their posts scattered here and there among the partisan wailing and tooth gnashing. There are of course a bunch, on both sides I might add, that are just not worth reading one way or another, they are simply irrational, though I will give kudos to the Right, their crazies are a lot funnier than ours over on the Left, as a rule we lefties are far too serious...we're dull, that's why most of my friends are righties...well that and righties tend to have jobs so they can buy more rounds and lap dances.




Louve00 -> RE: is it possible to have a rational discussion in P and R? (8/29/2011 6:24:33 PM)

I also think it comes and goes.  And depends on who's doing the talking/posting.  And too, I think some are just natural instigators.  Politics, like religion have always been two very volatile subjects to discuss.  There is often more emotion than rationale that people are responding to.  [sm=2cents.gif]






Lucylastic -> RE: is it possible to have a rational discussion in P and R? (8/29/2011 6:32:52 PM)

worth more than two cents Louvee:) good post:)




TreasureKY -> RE: is it possible to have a rational discussion in P and R? (8/29/2011 6:33:46 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: hardcybermaster

... is there any chance of having a rational conversation here?


Is it possible?  Yes. 

Does it happen?  On rare occasion.

Am I holding my breath?  Not a chance.  [;)]




FirmhandKY -> RE: is it possible to have a rational discussion in P and R? (8/29/2011 6:35:30 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Arpig

It can indeed happen, but it doesn't that often any more, most of us down here have been here a while and have already staked out our positions. For example, Firm and I have had many interesting, sane and rational discussions in the past, but we will never see eye to eye, so there's no real point reliving them. Unless he's substantially changed his views, of course...you a Syph yet Firm?

As well, when they happen, you have to spot the two or three people actually having a discussion and follow their posts scattered here and there among the partisan wailing and tooth gnashing. There are of course a bunch, on both sides I might add, that are just not worth reading one way or another, they are simply irrational, though I will give kudos to the Right, their crazies are a lot funnier than ours over on the Left, as a rule we lefties are far too serious...we're dull, that's why most of my friends are righties...well that and righties tend to have jobs so they can buy more rounds and lap dances.

Naaahhh, not a Syph.  Yet, anyway.

If you make it to Vegas, you won't have a bar bill, dinner tab or a lap dance bill (within reason, on that last one, and only if I can convince Treasure that the dances are actually for YOU and not me!  [:)])

Firm




TheHeretic -> RE: is it possible to have a rational discussion in P and R? (8/29/2011 6:37:03 PM)

Rational discussion?  There are a few participants around for such things, just as there have always been.  Fun discussion, which can easily include getting a demented proggie to step out in front of the train?  Yep.  Still plenty of that to be had.




Lucylastic -> RE: is it possible to have a rational discussion in P and R? (8/29/2011 6:38:20 PM)

whose doing the lapdances, you and Arpig? gigglin, Id pay to see that:)
not sure anyone else would be interested, but I always have been a bit unusual




TreasureKY -> RE: is it possible to have a rational discussion in P and R? (8/29/2011 6:41:44 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

whose doing the lapdances, you and Arpig? gigglin, Id pay to see that:)
not sure anyone else would be interested, but I always have been a bit unusual



Firm?  Lapdancing?  [sm=rofl.gif]






Lucylastic -> RE: is it possible to have a rational discussion in P and R? (8/29/2011 6:46:46 PM)

wellllllllllllll a girl can fantasise cant she? grinsssss
seriously ...I know its unlikely but LOL I am enjoying the thought:)




TreasureKY -> RE: is it possible to have a rational discussion in P and R? (8/29/2011 6:58:14 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

wellllllllllllll a girl can fantasise cant she? grinsssss
seriously ...I know its unlikely but LOL I am enjoying the thought:)


Perfectly understandable.  [;)]

From personal experience, however, I'd recommend a fantasy involving the foxtrot or waltz.  He's rather swoon-worthy on the dance floor, not to mention he cuts quite a dashing figure in his tux.  [:D]




Lucylastic -> RE: is it possible to have a rational discussion in P and R? (8/29/2011 7:03:30 PM)

ooh he dances? most excellent, Im partial to quickstep but foxtrot is so good if he glides:)




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